Illwei

Well, I guess Lotus, Devotary. What does this mean? and even if he was tricking us we'd just lynch him next cycle. also technically this could be a play where elim!sart throws elim!Devotary under the bus when people already are going to kill devotary to try and solidify sart as village couldn't it?

I'm going to put a vote on Lotus for now, though it probably won't matter with as many vote manips we have and Lotus being one of them, so I'll probably end up changing it tomorrow maybe

according to Kas he is in communication with a third person with the same ability. I don't know. EDIT: also I was reading back through and noticed that Lotus asked in the beginning if I could have taken off my vote from her-did she forget that according to her, she was the one who took the vote off of me?

This cycle is still kinda early...kinda...and I was going to wait and see how people talked and if I wanted to vote on Lotus again. I say "Again" because I in fact voted for lotus last cycle. :).

Pyro is dead. Also? I need to participate more in discussion? I've been pretty active this game so if your reasoning is because you don't know what to make of my existing posts then that seems like a you problem?

Okay, so...more vote manips...? @LotusI already said i didnt use my manip last cycle, as well as my action isnt the same as yours where it removes my vote. I would think that matrim is also a possibility unless you cant get two diseases at once, but the writeup implied you could have multiple diseasee. Of course i cant really trust that lol.

Hi I'm late but I've been reading through lots of threads recently and saw someone talk about headcannons so I had to chip in that I fully believe/agree that Jasnah is Ace/Aro and off topic but gay: but I'm a Kadolin shipper please don't shoot me

It doesn't even say his alignment in the writeup O.o :P. But anyways there's no use speculating over something that I can't ever prove or disprove without first dying :P. Also I guessed my surge thing right so I'm incredibly proud of myself (even though I think they said they thought it would be obvious to the people but anyways-)

Gears did claim a role in thread didn't he? just he said that he wasn't going to say which one? Maybe he PM'd an elim and told them, but then they didn't want us to know that role existed and they just so happened to have a progression guy? wait no I'm not playing ToS Maybe he claimed to an elim and they killed him and healed him before anyone else could get the power or something or before he could use it? EDIT: nvm gears said they weren't going to say either way not that they weren't going to say what disease

The...flavor...of conditions

I guess that makes sense, I'm just constantly worried that my judgements are wrong :P. Someone else with my ability would not be able to not vote in thread, and then place two secret votes on both lahilt and Pyro. I only get one secret vote.

so the extra vote on pyro might not have been intended specifically for pyro, just for anyone else.

Right. Forgot about that. and no I didn't double vote.

So we have (at least) full 3 vote manips that we don't know of...two people who add votes and one who subtracts... I wonder if some of them are like pyro where they don't choose where the vote goes

I'm going to try and not use my second vote as much, as it kind of interferes with the whole democratic thing...I think...

I think I'm going to vote on Lotus I don't know what the chances of being an elim x times in a row are but I'm trying to avoid thinking about that. Voting mostly because they seem to be talking a lot and not saying much, as well as both hopping on the Matrim and Pyro votes without much reasoning.

Ahh yes, that's some great reasoning from TJ I see :P. I was suspicious of Pyro but now I don't know what my own thoughts are...

Araris is not PMing with Illwei, and I don't see why I would want to make a counterlynch train when you're the only one voting on me? Why are you still voting on me again? Did I miscount the votes? because what I've seen is: Mint (2): Sart, Araris Pyro (3): Gears, Lahilt, Lotus Gears (1): Striker Lotus (2): Matrim, Vapor Illwei (1): Ashbringer Araris (1): TJ Shade Lahilt (1): Kasimi

Araris

I- no it doesn't. Until I have a better place to put my vote Araris EDIT: yes it does, I'm just stupid and there was a lot of confusion going on. D1 :P. I was confused also by the fact that the GMs revealed both factions names during the night cycle when they didn't before hand

For Mint and Kas I'm choosing to trust them first, until I find a reason not to, as I am assuming that the elims wouldn't know the village faction name.

Fixed it?

Frozen Mint - Claimed D1, when the elims probably don't know the name of village faction. - Village Kasimir - Trusted Mint for claiming D1 during D1, idk seems pretty helpful. not a lot of other things - Village until proven otherwise TJ Shade - The whole research intern thing, i haven't been looking at them as much but I probably should look at them again. Null Illwei - Engaged in vote manip to save themselves but that's pretty NAI especially on D1. Tried to say something D1 to prove they were village, but no one seemed to notice it. Seems slightly suspicious of people who aren't suspicious of them, which is kinda suspicious in itself. Gears - says some things that aren't really relevant but idk doesn't seem completely evil, just haven't really seen posts like that in my other game with him. seems out of charachter. Votes Pyro? for what reasoning I don't really see. Null? Ashbringer - I read something making me suspicious of Ash during the night but I don't remember what it was so NVM i guess. Null. Matrim - Seems to be talking less than normal, but that could be beacuase other people are talking more. apparently has a Roleblock. Araris - Changed vote last minute to create a tie. Past two games I've played someone creates a tie, the village agrees that it was a village thing to do, and then the Tie-er flips elim, votes on Mint for...suspecting me? I guess right now it's still a gut read...Null? Straw - I still don't know. Still scares me though. Null Lotus - Has a lot of posts, but none of the posts have seemed really helpful. Not unhelpful, just, Irrelevant. fillers like "thanks" and "i should vote" and "who do i vote on". things like that. feels like surface level activity. argues for a TJ-Mat-Ash elim team because they trust eachother. Null. I wanna see the spreadsheet but that's just because I like seeing how other people format their spreadsheets Vapor - Basically inactive, throws a vote on Lotus for self preservation? when self preservation wasn't neccessary? maybe they didn't have time to read through and thought there was more votes on them and less on everyone else. idk. Null. Pyro - I don't like the whole "thinking i claimed" thing but it could just be pyro being pyro idk I do think it's dangerous to keep chaotic players around though because they constantly draw attention even if you know it's their playstyle...Null Sart - Votes on mint for a post that seems to me Mint trying to cover up if she's a vote manip if anything. Lahilt - Keeps asking me to vote on pyro, votes on pyro? maybe just completely suspicious of pyro and wants them gone. Null Devotary - Lurked on the thread for a long time and only voted for Ashbringer after Araris switched to Mist. maybe coincidence. Null Striker - Posted just a few times, voted on Gears...Null

Why would lynching me be worse than lynching an "essentially random person" when I was a essentially random person, if not a more suspicious one? You seem to insist that I am not the vote manip, and I'm just claiming to maybe have the village get off my back, but you would rather vote Mint than me when you seem to be positive I'm Elim? EDIT: I was under the impression that what they didn't like was sharing editable things?

So...you're...voting on Mint...because you're suspicious...of me?