Illwei

@Sart can people create group PMs during the Preparation Phase? or do all PMs need to be 1 on 1?

Ah. Okay. I'll trust you and put it back in. Anyways, it's been a while since I did this so might as well take another shot at it. @ElectrumSavant Clarifications, Rule Names Amendment 1: 301- The Hathsin Act: The Lord Ruler can designate a Favored House that will run the Atium mines at the Pits of Hathsin. The Favored House will get 5 Atium at the end of each page. The Lord Ruler can grant or take away this role at any time for any reason. The house with the Atium mines must include a statement to the effect, "I am mining Atium" to earn Atium for that page. The Favored House looses it's position if they do not mine Atium for 5 Pages in a row.

I did not list it as I realized after last page that it was not actually re-proposed. You posted an amendment to your proposal after your proposal was rejected.

haha. Ever census I post counts for 16, therefore I now have 306. :P. As I said, I'm fine with letting it go through, especially now that we're on another page.

HOUSE RELIDAN'S STILL OFFICIAL CENSUS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Lord Ruler ElectrumSavant NOBLE HOUSES (306) - House Relidan (Illwei): High Prelan (300) - House Wafre (DoomStick) (185) - House Soliel (The_Truthwatcher): Inquisitor (99) - House Ightejyw (Danex) (85) - House Tellen (Negative_Null): Favored House (78) - House Hollow (Kings_way) (69) - House Otter (Chinkoln) (65) - House Mist (Mist) Obligator (80) - House Aot (SirWolfe) (26) - House Fura (Furamirionind) (10) - House Fadran (Channelknight Fadran) PROPOSALS DoomStick - Senate votes must last for at least 48 hours, but then may be ended.

I disagree that that's allowed anymore, as the census post has been fixed since then. I'm fine with it going through.

20% of my atium is 70, and I am willing to offer 64.

@SirWolfe TLR has been tagged! your time to accept is running out! 32 Atium or none, your pick!

Well, in either case I rechecked my other numbers and found out some missing numbers and found out I had more money to lose than I originally thought! However, I have a counter proposal for you. I will pay you 32 Atium to just drop this call for judgement. if it does go through you don't earn any Atium anyways, so this is a win-win! @SirWolfe

Ah! yes! thank you! you infact have 16 for an accepted proposal. (ignore the fact that it's bolded. it won't let me unbold for some reason.. was the rule changed so that anyone could catch my mistakes? or that just the inquisitor?

Okay that...makes sense... ;-;

Uh, @Ashbringer, you kinda, uh, left me out. I mean, you even put yourself in, and you left me out... I am still alive, right? I mean I'm not one to ask for protection... I'm going to take your post as that you find me at least slightly suspicious. I-yeah wait actually I think I remember you saying that you don't trust me and Elkanah I think. I don't remember anyone else explicitly saying that. lmk where I'm wrong. anyways- I guess Sart and Silber are the only ones not to put out reads. I don't remember Kyne putting out reads...or Ash... So the only people to put out reads are me, Elk and...has Pyro put out reads? yeah, no, yeah he did. Anyways it's taken me over an hour to try and write this because I keep getting sidetracked and I have definitely forgot what I originally meant to say- but yeah. I still have a problem with Ash's argument? I thought I understood but now I think I don't. they think Kyne is an Elim, but isn't an elim alone? I mean, I agree that there is more than 1 elim left. I don't see why you wouldn't consider Kyne. If you thought there was either a Kyne/? elim team, why not vote on the part you can see? why express interest in three different targets that aren't kyne? I just- ??

@Zillah Didn't pyro take his vote off of Mint?

I- I- yeah. I'm more lost on reads. I know it's normal for Silber. and yeah, remembering that this whole "manipulatey thing" that Mint mentioned doesn't sound like something he would do unless people are spoon feeding him posts, which, I mean, I don't think so? I also know that he doesn't really vote, besides this one vote for ASh because Ash voted on him, and I was thinking that I'd rather lynch someone that doesn't vote than people who do, which now that I think about it and actually write it down, voting on someone who doesn't really do anything doesn't tell us anything. so. so, Silber? because I would like to err...ere?...air? on the side of caution. I am going to repeat that I don't like the idea that there are only 3 Elims. I don't like how much people are assuming there are only 3 elims. It seems much safer to me to assume there are 4, and then be happy if it turns out to be only one more. A part of me wants to vote Mint because part of me thinks that she's suspicious, and it's really easy to claim protection as an elim, as no one can really prove that. all you have to do is claim protection on someone that you're not going to kill? I ended up voting Silber in an attempt to find someone who wasn't mint, but- I'm going to switch to Mint, final answer. yeah. okay. Mint. EDIT: wow look three posts that my computer failed show me

Personally it's because he's semi-inactive and I agree with Elk that it'll tell us something About Sart. I don't know what to think of his Vote on Ash, but- I don't know. I didn't notice that Mint had voted Silber, I don't know how I feel because I want to believe that Mint is vil, but something keeps telling me not to trust them. I don't know what to think of the fact that Ash voted on mint because "everyone seems to be saying they're somewhat suspicious" but I don't think an elim would outright say that if they didn't have any leads. I don't quite like that Silber started a vote on Ash seemingly because Ash voted on him?

I don't quite understand this reasoning. You think he's an Elim, but you'd rather vote on Mint because other people find Mint suspicious? I think I'm going to vote for Silber for right now?...I think... @Lord_Silberfarben EDIT: I think I kinda understand. so nvm.

er, because why? because no moneys? or was it my beautiful flyer that convinced you? :P.

Hey, yo, I made the Chancellor position and thought I specifically said that you can hold another position and the Chancellor, as the chancellor is basically a volunteer role :P, as no moneys is ever given to the Chancellor. However someone with a role (couch, me, couch) is probably less likely to be elected. I still very much very much want to be the role, as I enjoy doing things like that/housekeeping things :P. so uh, Vote Relidan for your next Chancellor!!! EDIT: what? no, the Senate is all Noble houses?

HOUSE RELIDAN'S STILL OFFICIAL CENSUS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Lord Ruler ElectrumSavant NOBLE HOUSES (354) - House Relidan (Illwei): High Prelan (285) - House Wafre (DoomStick) (185) - House Soliel (The_Truthwatcher): Inquisitor (99) - House Ightejyw (Danex) (85) - House Tellen (Negative_Null): Favored House (78) - House Hollow (Kings_way) (69) - House Otter (Chinkoln) (65) - House Mist (Mist) Obligator (16) - House Aot (SirWolfe) (26) - House Fura (Furamirionind) (15) - House Ethorris (Matrim's Dice) (10) - House Fadran (Channelknight Fadran) PROPOSALS Doomstick - 48 hours minimum ELECTION for the CHANCELLOR: Illwei DoomStick

I don’t have a lot of time to write things so this is only off the top of my head. I’ll try to look more, if I have time, later, though It is pretty close to rollover :P… 1 - Thoughts Personally I’d rather assume 4 Elims than 3. If there only turns out to be three, then woot, nice surprise, but if there is 4 and we just all kind of assume there are 3, then that might turn out bad for us. Also 3/15 is 1/5th of the group, and 5/15 is 1/3 , so, suspension of disbelief, 4/15 is therefore ¼ :P. Can you explain what you find interesting about those posts instead of just dumping some posts on us? Maybe it’s just me, but I mean, I could tell you what I might find interesting about those posts, or what I think you might have found interesting, but that’s different from you pointing out specific things that you find important/interesting. 2 - Kinda Reads? Kinda just more thoughts? Frozen Mint - I initially had them as an Elim read, based, for the most part, on D1 interactions, but I don’t know what to think based on Experience’s vote on them when he was voted up, since I don’t think that he would have voted on a teammate for a counter when other people had expressed suspicion of them. Kynedath - Hasn’t really posted? Seen them lurking a bit but hasn’t posted so I don’t know what to think. Silber - Voted on Ash for voting on him, it seems. I don’t remember seeing Silber vote before, so that seems different to me, but that’s not really anything to go off of. Elkanah - I still have them as a Village read? I was waiting to read Pyro’s post that I thought he said he was going to write about his suspicions of an Elk/Mint team? Pyro - Very strong defense of Ash. but I mean, that’s understandable. Wrote a big post that I don’t understand, but that’s on me. Ashbringer - They’ve been pushing for people to talk more and figure things out, I agree with Pyro that that’s pretty village. My only point against them was that they weren’t RPing and I found that weird :P, so I have them as a slight Village read rn. The paranoid part of my brain is saying they’ve just stayed more active because of the vote that was on them earlier, but-. That’s just because I don’t remember seeing them post before. Sart -

Er...Lotus and Matrim? Also, yeah it's completely irrelevant, but I wasn't in the PM. I have no clue what Matrim was talking about last night, I was just confused because I made a PM between Elk and Matrim on night 2. But yeah. it's pretty irrelevant now that I think about it. ... :)) EDIT: sorry was that a rhetorical question?

I have a question for the general public that, uh, unlike Elkanah, I will uh, actually ask, Would you not want people to know about PMs you had with someone who is dead? asking...asking for a friend... EDIT: Elso, Alk, can you explain why you seem to trust me more than Sart? unless...purple...is the bottom? of your reads list? ....? EDIT: also, does anyone else feel like Elk probably got the Passion of Passion and used it to pick Narcotics? someone might have a problem

Okay so I just have to ask: I used survival onto Lotus. @The Young Pyromancer did you try to kill me? EDIT: Only asking because of how you said that your passion you got was really bad, which made me assume it was a kill.

I- well, no, also because with a d10 you'd be including yourself in possible kills, but- It was completely unrelated to that. but- uh, no. yeah, no.

Oh, Nvm. *sighs* I'm just- nevermind.