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Are we supposed to take the write-ups seriously? Has Joe ever hidden hints in them? Because I'm seeing a lot of hints in this one. Possible hint that xino was escorted? @DeTess I don't know if you have an attacking role. Did you target a possible Bleeder suspect in C1 or C2? Why is the A capitalised? Something related to Bugsy? Or I'm breaking my head for no reason and getting trolled.

What does AL mean? Or is it AI? Doesn't seem to be the case as votes were moved off Pyro, and the one smuggled from Xino would be @Sart's action. Sart, can you confirm?

So Lord Sil's vote was impersonated. @little wilson I assume this was you? 2 votes were smuggled off Pyro, and 1 from Xino. @Kynedath what was the scan on Sart? No Bleeder kill this cycle as well. They must be scanning for Gambling Tycoons (or it's Sart).

Sart probably isn't elim, since Pyro has been suspecting Sart as Bleeder for the last 2 cycles.

Wait. I'm a little bit confused. The initial write-up lead me to believe there are PRE agents among Loyalists and Loyalists were rooting them out. This write-up seem to suggest the opposite. With Variel described as Loyalist and his unsuccessful escape, it seems to suggest that PRE got wind of the Loyalists and finish they're trying to finish them off. Which one is it? I know it doesn't matter because all we need to know is PRE = Village and Loyalists = Elims, but it's important to my RP. @StrikerEZ

Guilty. But I'm not trying to manipulate anyone into voting. I'm only trying to guess the outcome of the lynch assuming the worst-case scenario.Worst-case being elims with 2 smugglers and 1 impersonator.

Vote Count: Xino (5) - Lord Sil, Bugsy, Matrim, Shard of Reading, Pyro Pyro (6) - Kynedath, DeTess, TJ, Xino, Experience, Sart Sart [1(0)] - wilson Well, let's try this again after messing it up the first time. After going through the previous votes, I'm convinced that there are at least 2 Smugglers and 1 Impersonator among elims. Wilson's presumed impersonation, would be likely cancelled out by elim impersonator. After the action of elim Smugglers, it'd be 5-4 to Xino. @Sart I'm assuming you're Smuggling a vote off Xino? That'll make it 4-4. Any more Smuggling from elims and we're heading for a solo xino lynch.

I hit send accidentally. I've edited it.

What's to say this isn't the case now? Joe could have put 2-3 elims and given Bleeder!Pyro multiple abilities. The only reason he hasn't killed Winsting who claimed to him is because he wants to make sure it's not a fake-claim.

That means Sart is cleared right? He was role-blocked and yet Bleeder executed kill action. Also, can you please confirm to which target your kill was redirected to? Was it Xino or Bugsy?

Still this.

I asked the question, in fact. That's how I remember Bugsy answered it.

It was @Bugsy

Whoever sends the action first gets the priority?

Yeah, we're really screwed if this happens. That's why it's very important to lynch Pyro as well. Vote Count: Xino (5) - Lord Sil, Sart, Bugsy, Matrim, Shard of Reading Pyro (5) - Kynedath, DeTess, TJ, Xino, Experience Sart [1(0)] - wilson Bugsy (1) - Pyro We can assume Pyro moving his vote to Xino. We can also expect Shard of Reading to smuggle a vote off Pyro, since I think it's fair to assume he's elim. That leaves Xino(6) and Pyro (4). wilson can impersonate a vote to make it 5-5. But after that? No clue. I'd assume elims have got more vote manips. So I'd really be comfortable if Pyro leads the count by at least 2 votes.

Yeah that's what I meant. That you suggested the plan, and not that they should target Bugsy. Retrospectively, I don't think this happened since the extortionist would claim that it happened. We're also thinking of lynching Pyro along with Xino. What do you think about that @Shard of Reading?

As Matrim mentioned, you could've been extorted to attack on yourself. If you were Bleeder, that would just eliminate more people and make it easier for you to find Winsting from a smaller pool, since you'd know they are not Bleeder. But I agree, you seemed to be honestly helping to find Bleeder. At this point, you aren't a prime suspect. But that would change if Village Bartender does not claim his kill or if Sart flips non-Bleeder. At that point, it'd be either you or xino. Since apparently we're lynching xino this cycle, if he doesn't flip Bleeder, then you'd be our main suspect. Xino (4) - Lord Sil, Sart, Experience, Bugsy Pyro (3) - Kynedath, DeTess, TJ Sart (1) - little wilson, Matrim Bugsy (1) - Pyro I'd love for a Xino/Pyro tie.

I agree Sart is mostly not Bleeder. I mean, the real Bleeder probably saw our discussion to prove Sart's innocence and decided not to kill this cycle to pin it on him. This is actually brilliant for us because 1. If Sart indeed is Bleeder, we'll get to know in the next cycle via Kynedath. I believe Sart will try to prove his innocence again by Smuggling? (NO ONE ROLEBLOCK HIM THIS TIME) 2. If Sart isn't Bleeder, then Bleeder is definitely hiding behind him. So as long as Sart keeps Smuggling each cycle, Bleeder cannot kill since it'll clear Sart. Bleeder would also try to push Sart lynch since after Sart is dead they don't have to pretend to imitate him, and can start the kills again. Cycle 4 kills Pyro confirmed that Sart was role-blocked. This means 1. Sart was Bleeder and couldn't execute Bleeder kill (he wouldn't do this anyway even if he was Bleeder since he wanted to prove his innocence). Highly unlikely. 2. Sart was being framed. Bleeder didn't know about the role-block. He decides to scan or use his second ability to show lack of Bleeder kill as a proof for Bleeder!Sart. Highly likely. 3. But the lack of a claim from village bartender about their target is very disturbing. Village Bartender, please confirm if your target was one of Bugsy or Xino (here or via PM). If you were role-blocked, there's a high chance Bugsy or Xino are Bleeder and they attacked themselves to avoid suspicion. We're not even sure that we have a Bartender remaining anymore. Assuming, of course elim kill wasn't role-blocked. As far as I know elim kill cannot be role-blocked, right? @The Young Pyromancercan you confirm if elim kill was role blocked or not? If we don't get a message from village Bartender, the 3rd case is highly likely. If that happens, @Bugsy would be my prime Bleeder suspect. We really shouldn't lynch Sart this cycle.

She was always advocating on focusing on elims. If DeTess had died, it would be so obvious that the kill order came from you, rather than Bleeder. I'm also wondering why Bleeder hasn't killed you yet, since you're orchestrating the whole Bleeder Hunt. Also, what's Lylo?

Man, you should have just let him Smuggle a vote and prove his innocence. Now it could be case of Bleeder simply scanning for Winsting which would explain the lack of Bleeder kill.

It's possible that lack of Bleeder kill means Bleeder role-blocked Sart to frame him.

If everyone is convinced of this, then why are we lynching him?

There's another situation in which Sart claims to have been role-blocked (as an excuse for not Smuggling) but actually scans for Winsting.

I did. I assumed they would. I mean, surely they'd have at least one right? Since they didn't protect Karnage in C3 (I assume Striker protected him in C2) maybe it's true. There's another thought. What if Striker was the only Bodyguard in the game? That would make the previous cycle's actions bizzare indeed. There's a possibility that Bleeder!Bugsy attacked themself if one of the two bartenders were role-blocked. Same could be said for Xino I suppose, but Bugsy is working hard to discredit Kynedath so it's suspicious alright. @The Young Pyromancer, what was your scan result? Was your bartender role-blocked? If not, whom did they attack?

Sart is most definitely not elim, since Pyro had been pushing for Sart lynch since last cycle. Also, even if Kynedath is elim, it means he's not Bleeder, and we can collaborate. Besides, if I was a village Renowned, I'd be scanning elim suspects as well, so it's not that much of a stretch. Why would you scan someone you don't suspect to be evil or Bleeder? I'm all for elim hunt + Kynedath Sart Second Scan.