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Shards, particularly Odium, have heavy restrictions on what they can do. All shards are limited by their intent, which would (for example) make it extremely difficult for Cultivation to stop someone from growing. Odium is even more limited in what he can do, sealed away on Braize as he is. He can barely affect anyone on Roshar unless they have made a deal with him like Taravangian did. He can't smite people from orbit, he can't leave the system, he can't destroy the radiant spren, (HoA spoilers) Odium doesn't even seem able to kill the fused directly, what with Leshwi not immediately keeling over dead upon betraying him. When Odium and Dalinar spoke, Odium wasn't scared by the fact that Dalinar could potentially learn to manipulate connections, he was scared by the fact that Dalinar could potentially learn to do so without the restrictions of a shard. As for losing free will, none of these remove free will, merely manipulate it. You say that the Thrill can't make you choose it, but anyone who fights is vulnerable to it. you can't just tell the Thrill to leave you alone. Dalinar making someone see him as a friend doesn't actually make them see him as a friend; they would still know that he isn't, they just wouldn't feel that he isn't. Stealing spren bonds and making them unbreakable is all but confirmed, as Ishar nearly stole Dalinar's bond with the Stormfather, and there is no way that the Stormfather would remain bonded to a madman if he could help it. Ishar was going to steal Dalinar's connection to Odium as an enemy. Brandon has said that shards cannot simply cut off a magic system user: So I think that if you managed to make or steal a connection to a shard that gave you access to their magic system, it would be difficult for them to break that connection. Yeah, Dalinar probably could body swap souls.

Not having an understanding of the power likely makes you more dangerous, not less. Especially if a group like the Ghostbloods managed to get their hands on it. People like Ishar used to be when he destroyed Ashyn. Just enough knowledge to be dangerous, but not enough to know how dangerous. Also, I don't think Bondmsiths require massive amounts of stormlight.

I can see shades being terrifying, especially if you don't know how to deal with them, but personally, I think that Ishar's honorblade would be way more terrifying. Loved ones might actually not attack you after being shaded, Silence's grandma didn't. Silver body armor would work, (If you're filthy rich) and even without that as long as you're careful to keep the simple rules it wouldn't be too bad, especially if you live in one of the forts, which keep shades out well enough that fort dwellers don't worry too much about keeping the simple rules. Ishar's Honorblade, however, has the power to destroy planets. And it is currently wielded by a madman, and can be wielded by literally anyone who gets it. That is absolutely terrifying, although it's not the horror movie level of the shades.

Here's a list of things that Dalinar could probably do with his powers that are absolutely terrifying: Connect himself to someone so that they see him as a close friend, completely trustworthy. This includes humans, radiants, parshendi, fused, heralds, and possibly even shards. Force spren to bond anyone he wants them to and make the bond unbreakable. Amplify Nahel bonds to the level of the fifth ideal or above. Connect himself or others to any planet he wants, allowing for spies that fit in almost perfectly or really good ambassadors. Break or steal any connection. This would let him destroy radiant bonds, kill fused and heralds, and depower almost any magic user. Create a connection to almost any shard. This means that (general Cosmere magic spoilers) And, last, but not least, he could break the connection between the physical, spiriual, and cognitve aspect, killing people. Small scale I know, but still terrifying.

Nameless' eleflaffle tripped on the confetti, throwing him into a muddy corral.

Nameless rode by on a giant eleflaffle, screaming at the top of his lungs.

That chunk of Ishar's honorblade might be pretty important, huh?

Doesn’t matter if the perpendicularity moves if you give a sphere the connection of being in the perpendicularity. Unchained bondsmiths are broken.

The only WoB that I could find that implies a seeker needing to be a savant to detect other types of investiture is this one: and I found a couple of WoB's similar to these that have no mention of savantism: On aluminum savantism, there is this WoB: That mentions cleansing investiture from the spiritweb. It doesn't say that you need to be a savant to do so, but being a savant would make you better at it. As for copper blocking soulcasting, A-copper probably would make it harder to soulcast someone. However, considering the fact that we've seen things pierce copperclouds, such as inquisitors with bronze spikes or TLR with soothing, I think that the higher investiture levels from copper would be more significant.

friend.

face.

After which he ate twenty-two chickens.

I think that if you made a forgery that changed basically nothing about your past, it would add basically no investiture to your spiritweb. To give the example of Shai, if she stamped herself with her warrior soulstamp, and was then spiked for her physical strength or combat abilities, the spike would first steal the abilities that were added on to her, that are not part of her real soul. She would probably sustain real damage as the spike grabbed her natural abilities too, but it would probably be less than if she had simply been spiked normally. If she had stamped herself as a misting, and someone attempted to spike that power out of her, they would take the unnatural investiture, then, since Shai has just about no natural investiture or connection necessary to be an allomancer, she would sustain just about no damage. Feruchemy could probably work similarly to this, specifically F-nicrosil. If you tap enough of a trait, then you could theoretically become invested enough to fill up whatever spike someone is attempting to steal your powers with, leaving your natural powers fully intact. The only problem might be your connections, which may or may not be stored with your investiture.

Aluminum doesn't give an atium shadow: but considering the magnitudes of scale between atium and shardic futuresight, your guess as to whether it would block shardic futuresight is as good as mine.

Well, Cultivation did get lucky. Taravangian pointed that out. Besides, you can still manipulate people to go into that darkness if you want. You just have to accept that you will lose sight of them as much as anyone else. With a thousand points of darkness, you can’t stop anyone from getting out of your sight.

A single dark spot can be moved and manipulated. A thousand makes it impossible to see anything at all.

He blocks all future sight related to him and everyone close to him. There are tons of mistborn and inquisitors, including TLR, that interact with tons of people that are essential to the future of Scadrial. Furthermore, Brandon wishes he let every allomancer burn Atium, which changes the number of dark spots from dozens to hundreds, perhaps even thousands. Name one important person on Scadrial that has not interacted with an allomancer. Can’t? Well that means that all of those people are at least slightly blurry in futuresight. Do you see how ridiculous that would be?

Loser The Slow.

“Ripples” does not mean “entirely block the futuresight of a shard. If Atium completely blocked shardic futuresight, Preservation would never have been able to plan anything at all. He definitely wouldn’t have been able to plan centuries into the future. Atium doesn’t change people’s long-term actions, it changes their short-term actions. Therefore it would only affect short-term futuresight. Duralumin Atium like Elend did would block futuresight like Renarin does, but normal Atium would only have a very slight effect at most.

Atium does not block shardic future sight. It might blur your immediate future, but burning Atium will not immediately cause you to block out futuresight on the level of Renarin.

My point isn’t that fortune just makes you lucky, it is that a lot of things beside future sight powerful enough to completely block a shard can beat Atium.

YKYASFW you get a book for Christmas and finish it on Christmas again.

this was of course because mandras didn’t have feet.

“Plausible” doesn’t mean it gives futuresight. Vin beat Atium without futuresight. Electrum, which gives barely any futuresight, completely counters atium. Even if fortune just makes you lucky like people on scadrial currently think it does, it could still beat someone with atium.