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Fortuity only got like a few seconds, at least in direct combat. It would be easier to kill an Atium misting than Fortuity, but that's not the question at stake.

I'd say harder, actually. Atium doesn't give the extra dexterity, but it does give precise knowledge of what's about to happen, and gives you the instinct to act on that knowledge.

Eof smiled casually. "Took you long enough."

Eof smiled as the Narrators gathered in one place. All was going exactly according to plan.

The floor looked terrible.

This power ruined Wizard's carpet.

The house trembled. A pinprick of darkness appeared suddenly, and just as suddenly vanished.

Eof did not respond.

This was all part of Eof's master plan.

"Nameless will break your constraints. And besides, I am not influencing him. Nameless is free to act as he wishes."

3 men? Are you storming KIDDING ME? They. Don't. Have. To. They have multiple seconds to move out of the way. I am done. If I continue to argue with you I will probably break my keyboard or get this thread locked.

Eof laughed again. "I will get what I want. All is according to my plan. Nameless refuses to run from me. He will not accept your protection."

Eof's voice reverberated through Wizard. "Nameless is excluded from our deal, as per the terms. Any Narrator that intentionally harms me is not subject to protection."

Only the powers didn't work. Eof's laughter reverberated around Wizard.

Nameless was not, in fact, back in five minutes.

"Mind control? On me? That's ridiculous." Nameless smiled. "You see, I know a secret. Although he claims to be the creator of TLT, Narrators created Eof. So I can beat him easily. I'll be back in five." He vanished, going off to meet Eof in an epic battle for the fate of the thread

Nameless busted out of the cell and went looking for a cool magic weapon.

Nameless rolled his eyes. "Take shelter? I thought you knew me better." With a flick of his wrist, he summoned his Narrationblade. "I'm gonna go kill Eof."

This too was all part of Eof's plan.

Eof laughed at Thaidakar's foolishness. The Narrator simply did not understand how much of a threat he was. How could he have fallen in another dimension when he had created all of them? He was behind the creation of TLT himself. He had manipulated events to cause it's creation, and had watched as the multiverse formed. Through the Narrators, He had guided its creation.

They have more than one coin on the ground I'm assuming. And why only coins? There can be bigger pieces of metal. Because he's been one. We've literally never seen any other Radiant summon Windspren like Kaladin. I doubt they're all going to be able to control thousands of windspren and stopping Highstorms. Because they'd be the most dangerous kind of Regal on the battlefield. They'd mow through regular soldiers like a weedwacker. a couple hundred regular humans with Atium killed over thousands of Koloss. Nightforms would be so dangerous, it wouldn't even be funny. Voidbinding's futuresight is not Atium. It's long term prophecy style futuresight. Dalinar won a fight against a Shardbearer with Shardplate. And he didn't stab him through the eyeslit. So it is possible. And you don't want an aluminum dagger when fighting a Shardbearer, you want an aluminum shield of some kind, a warhammer, and something to stab through the cracks you make. Yes. Atium shadows leave a trail: And you get a sensory boost to be able to process it all anyways, so that wouldn't even be needed. Because a smart Mistborn won't let you get that chance. After I've thought about it, Vin killing Zane like that is actually a huge plot hole. People change their actions based on an Atium burner's actions all the time, and it doesn't work. So why was Vin different? People try to dodge and block a Mistborn's attacks. If what Vin did split the shadow, so should any attempt to react to the Mistborn. But they don't, and Vin's does. Yeah, and only a few of them will. One or two per order maybe. Not the average Windrunner/Stoneward. How much mass do you think the vines have? Because the Radiant has to convert Stormlight into that mass. Right. So they're going to put a whole bunch of super valuable perfect gemstones in danger. How much stormlight would it take to soulcast all those vines? Because you're looking at similar amounts here. Just Cadmium and Bendalloy. It's worth the superspeed. You don't need to equip everyone, but we should at least see regals with aluminum weapons, similar to hazekillers.

So now all of Thaidakar's avatars were mindless husks of their former selves, forced to serve Eof until their bodies finally gave out. And the worst part? It was irreversible.

Do you think it makes sense for a Mistborn burning aluminum to be able to destroy as much metal as they can physically get in their body instantly? For a Sword swallower to be able to instantly metabolize an entire steel sword? Also, why are we arguing about this again? I forgot. Plant thing. Shardspears can't get longer than like 20 feet at most, and with Atium, they'll be easily to dodge. A Mistborn could chuck metal at them until the Radiant runs out of Stormlight. Teft was 'close'. He managed to summon his Shardblade in the tower, something even Kaladin never pulled off. And he didn't get any windspren. We have to accept that Kaladin could be an outlier. Nightform singers we don't know enough about, but if they do have futuresight it's almost certainly like Renarin's or Rlain's, not Atium. Only one Unmade has futuresight, and it's not short-term based. Voidbringers is a group term that doesn't really apply to anything. So no, they've never fought anything like an Atium-burning Mistborn. Normal men can fight people in Plate. Kaladin fought Shardbearers with only Stormlight, which grants an inferior boost to Pewter, and he won twice. An Atium misting could have won against Kaladin like that. And you think that Plate would allow you to beat Atium? The metal so valuable that anyone burning it was considered invincible? The metal that allowed an army of like 200 ordinary soldiers to fight against an army of Koloss that outnumbered them literally a thousand to one, for hours? They only died when they ran out of Atium. And Koloss have almost 5 times the strength of an ordinary human, and are superior soldiers in every single way besides tactics. Being able to move slightly faster than a Mistborn doesn't make your Atium shadow magically split. They can see exactly what you're going to do before you do it, and they instinctually know how to use that information. A little speed doesn't help. A little skill doesn't help. you'd need to reach speeds that only a Steel ferring or compounder can reach in order to overcome Atium. Vin got incredibly lucky while Zane was literally just toying with her. You can't beat Atium that easily. A Lastclap isn't a maneuver you pull off in Plate. The point is that Vin's trick wouldn't have worked if her opponent was prepared for it. No they weren't. However, they are better than the rest of the world. Adolin's the best duelist in Alethkar. Kaladin's the best soldier in the entire storming Cosmere. Szeth's the assassin in white, with experience in all ten surges. Dalinar was to quote from the books 'never just another sword'. They are all the best of the best, and very very few people will ever become as skilled as they are. How many seeds can you fit in your hand? Seeds that grow into large vines, that is. And how much stormlight can you fit on your person? Because you best believe that covering everything in giant vines will use that all up. Right. But growing enough vines that there is literally nowhere for the Mistborn to dodge to is still going to take an absolutely insane amount of Stormlight. Like, perpendicularity levels of Stormlight. Yeah, I know. Where are you getting the Savancy allows time bubbles to move thing? I thought it would allow for distortion of the bubble, not full-on movement. Because if it allows for movement, then every Mistborn moves at superspeed. Eat like a pound of Cadmium and Bendalloy, make a small Cadmium bubble with a larger Bendalloy bubble outside it, burn duraluminum. Repeat until you're a savant. Yes, it's soulcast. However, they only give aluminum weapons to the fused. Even if Fused with the surge of Soulcasting make up ~5% of the Fused population, they'd only have to make 20 weapons each. Seems like they could do that really easily, especially if they can just soulcast big blocks of aluminum and allow others to smelt it into shape. So something about soulcasting aluminum must be difficult in some way.

Until they all got killed trying to avenge their fallen brethren.

Vin is not a scientist. It is extremely fast to the point of seeming instant, but isn't actually instant. Well, Wax lost his metals instantly. So Chromium's instant? Oh, right. I'm too used to Wax. Well, a Mistborn can still have fine control in the air, and it's not like the Edgedancer or Truthwatcher (I'm not convinced Truthwatchers can do the plan thing, btw) can do anything to them while they're up there. Neither order can fly. Yeah. And what does that have to do with anything? We've seen that stuff like what Kelsier did is possible with enough practice. We've never seen another Windrunner pull Windspren to them like Kaladin does. Historically, they fought enemies led by someone who could see the future, aided by someone who could see the future. Those are completely different things. And no, they can't overcome Atium. Overcoming Atium is practically impossible. Taln could do it, but the Radiants? No. Storming. Way. To bring it back to the Lastclap, how many Radiants can reliably pull it off against an opponent who swings their Blade with the proper amount of force? (Hint: The answer is none of them. Because if the opponent swings their Blade hard enough, you can't do a Lastclap.) No they're not. Vasher straight up says that it's a stupid move that only works if the person who's swinging the sword is stupid. Rosharans probably just have names for stupid maneuvers like that cause Taln pulled it off after challenging three Shardbearers to a fight while unarmed. All this selective pressure stuff will make the average Radiant more skilled, but it will not make the average Radiant Kaladin, or Dalinar, or Adolin, or Szeth. We have seen Mistborn of similar skill levels to the top Radiants and fighters. Kelsier and Vin were both very skilled in their powers. Add on Atium, and they die. In fact, the only person whom we know for certain has the ability to counter Atium, Vin, would lose to Kelsier burning Atium: So I really don't think Atium is as easy to overcome as you think it is. Wait, don't Edgedancers have touch the seeds to grow them? Even still, growing 'countless vines' would also take massive quantities of Stormlight. Also, with enough practice, you can have the fine control you need, especially if you have Atium. Fine. Mistborn gets practically infinite Atium from distilling, Radiant gets lasers. Not nukes though, as Cohesion hasn't been shown to be able to do that yet, and everything we've gotten so far has shown that it likely can't. (And if it can, then it can happen on accident, meaning that Radiant better be real careful how they use their surges) The maker of the time bubble can move around inside of it. Can't move around inside a coppercloud. Yes we do. She gets stabbed, and soulcasts the spear as it hits her.