Frustration

Yes, but Rayse would have been unlikely to offer fusedhood to him, unless he was zealously loyal to Odium. Only 4,000 fused out of the possible millions that were alive at the time, implies a high level of selection.

Then he probably wouldn't have been a fused in the first place.

Yes, especially as Brandon thought about Elodi being El, but decided the timeline didn't match up. He replaces it with metal in the same shape and pattern. On the contrary, while some humans have shown a limited ability to hear the rhythms, without external aids these are only temporary events.

El is a singer, he has the carapace and had the rhythms

Again, no one on Roahar had explosives at that time. And stone is really hard to break apart without some form of penetration. You don't put dynamite next to a cliff, you dig a hole into the cliff and put the dynamite inside. No, gunpowder was a recent development on Scadrial when TLR took up the well of Acsension. That's over 3,000 years after the last desolation. And while it's difficult to date White Sand(in which gunpowder was still in its infancy). Based on the fact that Autonomy is worried about Sacdrial's technological developments they can't be too far ahead. And neither of those worlds is Roshar.

Welcome to the shard! @alder24, another Pole has arrived.

They were also Dustbringer squires, so they can use division to start breaking the body apart, and hammers to complete the process. The humans of Roshar during the desolations didn't have guns. Really no one in the Cosmere did at that time. See WoB, the muscles are moving, and doing so correctly. Exactly like a Gray Man. A direform is just as strong if not stronger, while also being better armored, and far smarter. And you only need one Singer to make one, not five.

They say that the fastest way to get threads doing battle analysis about Cosmere powers is to leave Frustration alone with time to think. I don't know if they actually say that, but it's probably true. This will be a companion thread to both Frustration's Firepower Index, and The Hazekiller Coefficient. The difference is that this time I am analyzing a military structure rather than any particular individual. As a quick recap for those who don't know Frustration's Firepower Index is a collection of threads analyzing the combat capabilities of various worlds and magic systems. The Hazekiller coefficient was an attempt to give ballpark estimates of the number of ordinary individuals needed to kill various invested individuals. Originally this was just going to be about regals, but I've decided that it would be fun to do a full analysis of Odium's desolation armies, so before BAM took up the well of Control. I will go over each of the various units in Odium's army, and assign them a recommended strategy, as well as a Hazekiller coefficient. Some of this will involve mild amounts of speculation, so please bear with me. The Unmade with few exceptions will not receive a hazekiller coefficient Thunderclasts These things can serve both as siege engines, walls/bridges, and as unstoppable offence, depending on the situation. Unfortunately there are only three of them. Hazekiller coefficient: 4-5 thousand. Fused Regals: This is where I think that Odium's army really begins to take shape. Earlier units were for the most part unremarkable fighters that even mistings wouldn't struggle to take down with a few stellar standouts. Here however we begin to see the formation of an actual fighting force capable of taking over a world. I'd say that in the Desolations the regals were probably far more powerful than the fused, and might just have been enough to actually make Odium's forces a threat to the people of Roshar. Other singer forms exist, but really shouldn't be used, as forms of power are just better. If there aren't enough voidspren then warforms will suffice as weaker Direforms, however those warforms would make great hosts for Yelig-nar. Overall rating: Odium's army is incredibly well rounded, having a decent capacity for just about everything. They do over rely on spies and informants, when they have plenty of ways to do just that. Odium instead should have invested more into leeching like abilities as the ability to counter other forms of investiture is severely lacking, and Raysium isn't near enough to make up for it. However I can confidently say that with the exception of Radiant forces this is by far the most dangerous army we have thus seen in the cosmere.

TLM showed that as long as someone is touching a bubble they count as inside of it. They could have just had a finger on and it would have worked.

He probably would have given enough time, but Gawx beat him to it, and at that point things had changed to the point it was not longer reasonable to do so.

I think it's because it's Honor's system. Personally I'm of the opinion that all of the Radiant spren, including Honorspren could also preform a similar role in whatever system is tied to Cultivation, though what that would be I have no idea.

That's what Tanavast thinks, but Odium did target Devotion and Dominion because they were on the same world

Tell me this was intentional

How often are you looking for a chain?

Given the sheer size of the cosmere at that point mere nuclear, or even anti-investiture weapons aren't enough for MAD to function anymore. Both sides have multiple planets, and the distances involved between them would make attacking en mass difficult. I was thinking more like Dawnshards, but we know where two of them are at that point, with the possibility of Change still being in hiding, so that's basically an impossibility for both sides to have one. Skirmishes between the two of them, but not a full conflict.

I've been thinking abput making a similar post for some time, though I had a different interpretation. To me it looked more like there is a multi-polar order to the cosmere. I feel if it was just two of them there would be an open war, not just occasional skirmishes unless both sides had the power to potentially wipe the other out. I'm also not convinced that several of these planets fully united, as the Cinderking on Canticle asks why no one conquered all of Roshar, and both Northern and Southern Scadrian factions exist. I think that the primary factions are from Roahar, Scadrial, Sel, Dharti, Threnody, Yolen, and Taldain. With the possibility of other smaller factions being in there. I think of all of these the most likely multi-world alliance would be Nalthis and Roahar, as they have close proximity and a history of contact, as well as a dramatic difference in power, but even that's not certain.

Sure, I'd love to look it over.

It really has been too long. Congratulations on your mairage, though I'm sorry to hear abput your father. I've mostly just been teaching God's word and trying to get people off drugs. I got back from my mission recently and mostly been trying to get life and employment figured out, but it's been fun.

Hey, you're back! How's life been these last two years? I know you had a girl back then how did that go?

Possible, and that's some solid reasoning. I could definately see cultivation fleeing to Harmomy as the only other dual shard to escape Retribution. However I don't think that's what happened.

Wow. I would like to speak with your friends, as that's kind of a wild take to me. Brandon has already confirmed that there will be more mistborn, and that Era 2 is as diluted as the metalic arts will become. It's not just Scadrian souls, he did something with Hemalurgy itself, though Marsh kind of got grandfathered into the new system

That feels quite excessive. I asked this in an SU, but I barely got any responses. You are forced to give up your hands, your wrists will now end in fleashy stubs. In exchage you will recieve any magic system of your choice. The only restriction is you can't use the magic to get your hands back. What system do you pick?

He did not, and he even commented during the flashbacks about how he was surprised that Odium had been able to hide their creation from him.

Does anyone else miss when you could see who had recently looked at your profile? I used to use that to quickly look at all of my friends.

Well, I encourage you to listen to your parents, though limiting gaming websites in particular seems odd to me.