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  1. Moving slower would be advantageous as it would make them harder to find on Radar. But if speed is needed they can get as fast as they need to, and if it really becomes an issue they can take an Edgedanncer with them. Additionally torpedoes track their targets based off the wake patterns they make while moving, so unless the torpedo can somehow cross the wake the windrunner leaves while moving in a straight line towards their target, the torpedo is basically useless. Yes but that doesn't help them survive when a seven foot deep hole appears along the ships entire length. And it can be repeated again as many times as necessary.
  2. Anti-aircraft guns can only point so low. If the windrunner can get inside that range they're untouchable. Simply dropping into the water and having your spren guide works just fine.
  3. ANFO wasn't developed until the 1950s so Roshar not having that isn't a counterpoint to their technological development. And while oxygen isn't necessarily a barrier to explosives, it's a massive consideration for engines. Yes, but why would Khriss warn Worldhoppers about fire on roshar if they were just earth levels of danger? I must disagree. Rayse and Tanavast are shown multiple times succumbing to their Intent. That was what caused Tanavasts 2.5 thousand year self reflection. He was doing what his shard wanted, victory and oathes regardless of the consequences and he realized that this leaves the Rosharan people better off without him. A lot of why Rayse was hunting down other Shards was because that's what Odium wanted. Taravangian is shown to almost immediately have to fight against his Shards Intent. And considering how Ruin talks about Passion, yes megalomania was a part of his shard. Unless they were intentionally hijacking Christianity probably call them a demon and see them as a threat. You can influence them surely, but remove ideas entirely? That's something that only the most brutally oppressive regimes in history have ever even approximated. Could you over the course of thousands of years gotten rid of Prejudice? Without a constant culling of the rising generation, revising history, and observing everything that everyone does? I don't think so. You're creating a false comparison. A more accurate one would be: What would the US federal government do if a group of people left the country with the intention of finding some uninhibited land and governing themselves. Now that's a lot more difficult today than it used to be, but in the Cosmere there doesn't appear to be any planet where this isn't a very real possibility. South Korea was supported by an outside power during the transition. And Brazil was already a quase-self governing body, and I wouldn't call it a functioning democracy, but I'll steer clear of politics. Okay let's run three scenarios of varrying levels of disaster: 1. A new faction in the government wants to implement economic reforms that will inevitably lead to an economic collapse. 2. A government organization mandates a new agricultural technique that will cause a famine. 3. In response to a labor shortage a new law is passed essentially forcing magic users into slave labor for the state. 4. A faction of the government gets their hands on a Dawnshard, causing them to decide to expand their empire and the prosperity it brings. And so to avoid a possible outcome you start wars to conquer all other states? Sure I can for two reasons: 1. Shards do not exist in a vacuum. There are sixteen of them, many of which have been shown to be determined to medle in the against of others. 2. They were comparing them to humans clashing, and arguing that a shard would be better. If there was only one human faction there wouldn't be wars or conflict either.
  4. I too hate Stormlight being OP. As to specific healing questions I don't have solid answers I'm afraid but I do know the following: 1. Radiants don't need to exhale while holding stormlight. 2. The human breath reflex is driven by the presence of CO2 not the lack of 02. 3. It requires hundreds of times less energy to provide the energy that cellular respiration would provide than to create the oxygen atoms needed to serve as the electron receptors at the end of cellular respiration. Bases on these facts I believe that the most logical explanation is that while holding stormlight Radiants do not need cellular respiration. Now as for blood clots, cranial pressure and other injuries: no clue. I know they can be healed and probably don't require a lot of stormlight to do so.
  5. While Brandon has said he intends to answer the question as to whether or not the characters can leave the cosmere he intends to leave the questions about the Beyond unanswered
  6. The largest problems for a US invasion are 1. the complete lack of satellites. These are used in everything from communication to missile guidance. That's all gone 2. Lower atmospheric pressure and higher oxygen content. While some highly advanced engines can moderate the amount of oxygen inside they are designed for earth-like atmospheres. On Roshar they have to worry about damaging or destroying the engine with the huge increase in power, and completely relearn how to fly as the lower gravity and air pressure make acceleration much faster. 3. Highstorms, this is probably the largest hurdle as they shape the entire planet. Now I think that the carrier support group could survive a highstorm at sea as the ghostship in Dawnshard had survived multiple. But no aircraft on the ship or in the air would make it through. And it would definitely throw the carrier group into disarray. Only any submersibles or aircraft that could get above the storm would escape untouched. 4. A single Windrunner of the fourth ideal could take out all non submersible vessels in a single day by just doing a fly by with a shardblade. At that point the war is basically over. I think an aircraft carrier group could take out any other planet, Roshar is just built different.
  7. Radiants don't breathe while holding stormlight. They don't need blood flow to their brain. Hunting down Zahel, who has centuries of experience would be difficult, but as WaT shows not impossible. I honestly think that cutting the rope from off of their neck aftet the fight would be the most difficult part, but you just grab a normal knife and should be able to cut it just fine.
  8. That is true, he's probably a close second The problem is that Ati wasn't weak willed. And yes Honor wasn't bad before Odium showed up, but that was also within a very short time span of being a shard. Once Odium did show up he became such a problem even he had to admit that the people of Roshar were better off without him. Brandon and Taln both consider Cultivation to be part of the problem as well. And again I will restate @therunner's point: Preservation LIKED the Final Empire. Sure some vessels are better at it than others, but Sazed showed us that even 300 years leads to serious warpings of your intent. Would you worship an alien spaceship that showed up and picked up the Whitehouse and held it suspended in the air for a few days before setting it down? Or would you see that as a threat? There is an uncontacted tribe of people on an island off the coast of India that attack anyone who gets close, even though we are approaching on motorized boats that move faster than they can imagine possible. For all intents and purposes these ships and people are basically divine by comparison, why do the natives not worship them? The only way possible would be to hijack an existing religion and then adopt changes over the course of centuries. If you try making changes too fast the people will inevitably rebel: see long list of Popes disposed precisely for that reason, or the Pharoah Akenatan. Despite being the highest religious authority change too much too fast and you quickly lose that. Peter the Great's reforms were incredibly unpopular. His beard tax in particular was loathed by the people, they even had their beards preserved and kept them with them because they didn't want to give them up, but were obligated to do so or face the consequences. And you can declare anything you want, but that doesn't make it so, anymore than congress declaring an end to world hunger will feed anyone. How do you propose that a shard make someone like Shallan abandon her views on darkeyes? And which one you use is very important. If your argument is simply: I'm god. What do you do when Retribution shows up and says: I'm a bigger god? Anything that applies to one shard applies to them all, if that's your right to rule, what do you do when another shard and potentially a stronger one shows up? So you force people to stay inside your country? What if like the Listeners they simply want to leave and be free of you? And religious authority and brute force are often closely related when we're talking about theocratic government. See: The Inquisition, the protestant reformation, the thirty years war, and many others. What happens when an authoritarian despot is deposed? The new government has no idea how to function and often collapses under its own weight almost immediately. For example see the French, Russian and Haitain revolutions. Immediately following the establishment of a new government they find out that managing a country is a lot harder than they thought, usually followed by a long hard period of learning in which multiple governments rise and fall as people learn how to actually lead. And so I'll repeat my question: What does your government do when you as a shard disappear for 30-40 years? Or 1-2 thousand? Yes and during the time that the shard rules directly how do you deal with the problems listed above. And once a quase-autonomous governing body is created and a catastrophe occurs that requires intervention what form does that intervention take? Why does it need to be the entire planet? And yes they do intervene, my point is that without causing worse problems that is the greatest amount of intervention that a shard can preform. They lack economically significant sources of Sulfur. At least the way that earth got them. They clearly have trace quantities, but all large deposits of Sulfur on earth come from volcanic activity, which roahar lacking plate tectonics, does not have. Now I suppose they could make oil from plants, and they do so. But it's the only source of fuel they have unless Adonaliusm made fossilfuels when he made the planet. But the main issue is actually the amount of oxygen on Roshar. It's enough of a problem they consider candles dangerous and Khriss warns worldhoppers against fire. That's kind of prohibiting when you're trying to have a controlled burn. I think the death count of Ashyn+the desolations easily beats that. Not to mention the multiple planets that Odium vs. Ambition took out. Or the Catacendre which almost ended all life on Scadrial. Or the Evil and whatever happened to Threnody. I don't think the Shards that intervene have the best track record. I mean Endowment of all the Shards we have seen appears to have the best system and the most she does is send Returned.
  9. My cars frame is pretty solid, you can pull the whole thing by putting a single hook through it. It's not something I can do without being careful that's for sure, but by holding the correct places it would be fine. As for the weight, yes it's very heavy, not a lot of places where I can use the whole thing. As Kaladin showed however at least Windrunner plate can protect the user even when not fully summoned. And concrete should be just fine. I can give the plate instructions to make the boots wider and distribute my weight over a larger area.
  10. I must disagree. Given that in the Recreance vision Jasnah says that they can't even figure out how to smelt steel and have to soulcast it, to having full on powered flight by RoW. Not to mention the development of vaccines, fabrial pumps, heating systems, and so much more. Yes they don't have gunpowder or internal combustion engines but that's because the materials needed to make them don't exist on Roshar. I find such an idea... terrifying. How do you prevent culture from forming in ways you don't want? I see two options: 1. Mind control 2. Killing/severely punishing everyone who holds opinions you disagree with. Let's say we have a light-eyed individual who thinks that her eye color makes her better than others. Let's give her a good light-eyed name like Shallan. Shallan is wealthier than all darkeyes and also believes herself to be better than them. How do you change that? Forcibly take her possessions from her? Kill her? Break into her mind and force her to change? And now on to the prompt: The problem with direct shardic intervention are many. 1. What gives a shard the right to make decisions for other people? If it's the fact that they're the strongest or see the furthest what happens when another shard, let's say Retribution shows up? By that argument you would be bound to follow said stronger shard. If it's the fact that they made the group of humans that follow them they have a lot more legitimacy. However it raises another question: What do you do when some people(as they inevitably will) decide they don't want to follow you? This question also applies to less direct forms of management in cases where you didn't create the humans. Do you destroy them for not following you? Hound them constantly until they agree? Or do you let them go? When those who rejected your leadership grow and divide and become various other nations and peoples how do you handle them? You could forcibly counquer them but imagine for a moment what you would do if aliens invaded and took over your government. I for one would be in no hurry to listen to them. And history has shown you generally have to hold conquered territory for extended periods of time before they accept their new leaders. During that time you have brutally supress any uprising freedom fighters or resistance units. If you decide to leave them be do you ignore them? That seems even worse than Cultivations option. So with the exception of the people who choose to follow you willingly it would seem that Cultivation is correct. What about those who do follow you? Well how do you rule? As an absolute monarch who makes all the decisions and enforces all outcomes? That leads straight into making a lazy and incompetent populace who have no idea how to take care of themselves. For examples find the closest people living in their mom's basement. And what happens when you lose track of time? As WaT showed us Shards can easily lose track of decades, or even millennia. Honor skipped 2.5 thousand years just doing a self reflection, and only got jolted out of it by BAM messing with the souls of the entire planet. What do your people do when their god-king just vanishes? Do you act more as a parent encouraging the decisions you want but allowing them to make their own choices? How are these leaders selected? By how much they obey you? That doesn't seem to be any different for you just doing everything. By any of the other random ways that humans decide their leaders? What do you do when they decide to do something that will end in disaster? They inevitably will do so given enough time. Do you stop them? How does that allow them to make their own decisions, to learn to grow to actually be people in their own right? If you allow the small disasters but prevent the large ones what's the deciding factor? People will suffer even for small mistakes. Suffering that could in theory be avoided. If it's just based upon your judgment I'll just say that each individual will have their own definition of what counts as too far and must be avoided, and where to intervene. Now what form should that intervention take? Do you strike down anyone who tries going through with such a decision? Simply force them to comply? Or do you convince someone else to stop them? Have someone else use their power to choose, their capacity, strength, and will to make the right decision? The way I see it is to act as a figurehead political symbol of a single country, which given your power and foresight would probably be the largest and most influential, but still you playing favorites. Or else to do what Cultivation did, and what you would be forced to do with everyone else: encourage, inspire, guide and direct, but always leave the ultimate decision in the hands of those who will make mistakes and who will disappoint. Personally I don't think any of the shards understood the nature and purpose of their power quite like Cultivation, she made the correct choice, and Taravangian was a fool to do otherwise.
  11. That's pretty awesome, but the bubble would probably block that. We know it messes with most forms of investiture, and Wax never fires metals out of it.
  12. How so? Other than being able to pull things to you I can't think of anything. With Plate I can easily pick up my car and put it somewhere else. With plate cutting myself a Christmas tree would take seconds. Also imagine the jokes I could play by walking up to my friends car, picking it up and moving it.
  13. Are lurches useless? No. Are they super OP? Also no. What can they do? Hold a wooden shield and use it to deflect enemy coins. That's about it.
  14. Is Kaladin even aware of this? Navani didn't tell Kaladin during RoW, and there were only a couple of hours separating the books. That's actually a rather fair point(though I think the actual comment was for Sigzil to not judge the Iraili). It's something that is touched on only a few times in the books about how the Radiants need to be great moral examples. It's mostly Dalinar though, so I think it would have been really good if the other characters got shown that side of radiance and we got to see them react to it. Show them how others will follow both their good and bad examples. Definitely a missed opportunity.
  15. Hey the W.a-T balance patch nerfed the Rosharan builds into the ground, and the Gb1 update looks to massively overhaul the Scadrian toolkit.
  16. Um. At Fifth oath a Wundrunner can get to the moons of Roshar with the stormlight they carry with them. Running out of Stomrlight is a lot harder than that. Shallan survived a crossbow bolt to the eye, Kaladin survived having his spinal cord repeatedly severed. Dalinar: "shrugged off a lost arm like a stubbed toe." In Oathbringer. Any of these injuries would be life-threatening if not immediately fatal to a Mistborn. To Radiants? They just order a new uniform. Compounding requires an entirely separate magic system.
  17. I'd assume the substance left over would be harmonium-hydroxide, following the cesium model. I also back the reason Wax's experiment was different being that he used a Hemalurgic spike. The set wouldn't waste one on that experiment, and the Basin doesn't know how to use them. The extra Ruin creating a different reaction pathway.
  18. The metal in suppression fabrials are made from spren, it doesn't map to any Allomantic metal
  19. The answer to this question is a whole lot different than: who would win in a fight. This question is: which one would be most helpful to me in everyday life. Breaths are nice and all, and at that level I'm basically immune to all diseases. But medicine is advanced enough at this point that until I'm old that's basically a non-issue outside of like Cancer or something else that breath probably wouldn't prevent. Lerasium makes you significantly more powerful than a normal mistborn, but a lot of metals: copper, bronze, Chromium, nicrosil, are only useful if there's someone else with magic powers. Gold, iron, cadmium, tin bendalloy and electrum are pretty niche. I could find uses for them, but they would be only a small quality of life adjustments. Zinc and brass I feel would be unethical to use. That leaves pewter and steel as the only two big sellers, but if I'm going for those Shardplate just has them outclassed in every way. Shardplate is the only thing here that can save my life in a car crash. While pewter and steel would help Shardplate is just an "I live" button. With it I'm faster and stronger than anyone on earth, which makes physical labor a breeze. The blade is just the icing on the cake, I'd take unoathed Shards for the plate alone.
  20. Well that brings us to an interesting question: do corpses have rights? Can you abuse them? I won't pretend that there's no room for argument, but I believe the answer to be a firm: no. Once the soul leaves, all you have is a piece of meat with no more rights than the steak in my fridge.
  21. Cadmium stores breath, you're thinking about Chromium. However it should be noted that Chromium does not store luck, it stores Fortune, the ability to see possibilities and whatnot. Basically just a way to see the future.
  22. ... That's part of being an unoathed. If they didn't have the Shards they're just a human.
  23. I honestly respect that I thought about making a post there, but decided I wouldn't intrude.
  24. Once again @Aliroz-The-Confused I have to say: Based. Also I feel like it was completely within the character of Queen Fen to refuse outright the idea of assassination out of her character, Fen is all bark and no bite. She likes to argue, but she has no desire for blood.
  25. If you would ask for my citations I am more than happy to provide. Copper is the weakest of all Allomantic metals Spren can hear the pure tones of Roshar, copperclouds would stop that. That's an affect. We can see this even with the tuning forks, the spren in Gemstones are attracted to them, that's an affect. Neither of those however would stop a shardblade from being summoned.
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