Frustration

The force would come from the same place heat does from heating Fabrials, either directly from the stormlight provided, or drawn from the SR. Yes, but it's not like the place where you put your hand is like, ok, now half the force I have and give it to the rest of the door, it's transfered along the chemical bonds, or forced into other things the same way your hand does. I think your holding too firmly to classical mechanics, spren and spanreeds in particular are based off of quantum mechanics, and for quantum entanglement to work we have to assume the entangled particles are part of one wavefunction. Einstien himself was wrong on certain points. Esspecially when it came to quantum mechanics. So where is the additional inertia coming from? Stormlight comes in, is used and returns to the highstorm to be used again. That's like making a car, that takes the exauhst and the heat and turns it back into gas.

Sooo, um, I made an edit. Because it's not 5 times force into an object 1/5 the size, it's five times the force unto the same object. Once conjoined the gems are for all intents and purposes the same object, any force I apply to one is applyed to the other, not because it's transfered, but because it's the same object. Think Quantum entanglemnet. The difference is that when I apply force to one gem, the force that the other gem feels is multiplied by their size difference. It's not apply two newtons to the table, and one will get moved to the other table, it's apply two newtons, and the smaller "half" will act like it got five, while the larger "half" acts like it got one newton. No matter how far appart the two "halves" happen to be. Does that make any sense at all or am I speaking Physics textbook? Navani thinks it will be conserved I've thought about this quite a lot and it doesn't make sense. So moving the bigger gem is harder than moving the smaller one, and the smaller one goes further, and we must conserve force. The only way I can think to explain how that works is that somehow there is a resistance mechagnism that will store the force applied to the bigger gem, and then release it into the smaller one. The question then becomes, how? and on what scale does it start? Is it any movemnet at all, meaning that you have to give the larger gem several times the energy needed to move it before it actually moves? And why does that deserve a reveal more dramatic than that of isolating planes of motion, and require more difficult to obtain materials? Put it in the highstorm.

If it acts like one object why is there a transfer of force? Force division. If I push on the smaller gem with X newtons the larger one receives X/5 newtons

Ok lets do it this way So, If conjoined gems behave like a single object, yet when one spren is moved to a smaller gem, that gem moves farther rather than reducing the amount of energy needed to move the gem as a whole. So there are only two ways this can work, either force is multiplied, changing the speed, or the speed alone changes. Now lets assume you are right that speed alone is changed, how? Conjoined gems behave like a single object, so they have one mass. So if force is the same, and mass is the same speed must remain constant as well. Therefore without force multiplication the different speeds of the gems are impossible.

The smaller gem is connected to a bridge with far more mass than the big one. The bridge itself will not move any faster.

If force is the same that does nothing.

Well let me ask you something. How does Brandon intend to use this? The idea is that the group on the ground can pull their gems along for a fraction of the distance that the fourth bridge moves. So, unless new force is added, how is that possible?

So there must be force multiplication otherwise the only change would be the decreased energy required to move the object, not the distance moved.

It was Oathshards.

It des if it treats them as the same object.

Hm, it would seem you were right. I concede, you win.

This is not noted in the books, you only need to add enough force to move an object, not twice it's weight. No, I have not seen that, might take a look now though. EDIT: I have now seen it, very good video, would recommend.

And if you were to use that in Fourth bridge what difference would it make? Where did you get that from? Why would it not be 40 grams reguardless of the one you lift? If I have two gems weighing 5 grams, and one of them is connected to a weight of 40 grams, when I lift a gem it will feel like I'm lifting 50 grams reguardless of which one I pick up.

But if force is the same you will lose that speed moving on object larger than the gem If force were the same wouldn't the gem have moved the same distance but the energy required to move it be less? You have to put in the energy to move both objects, and as Navani was basically only using the gems it should have acted like one object.

It's weird. Complely boggles my mind. I had to work it out in my own head three times today.

If that's the case what's the point of it existing at all? That makes it no different than if it was just a standard conjoined gem. Why do you say that?

The Truthwatcher during the Recreance was a standard Truthwatcher

So in RoW we see that Raysium can allow for Conjoined gems to be of different sizes. The difference in sizes will multiply the force that the smaller gem receives. This is huge, as it allows for some really broken things you can do with Fabrials. Let's say we take a fabrial that looks like this So let's say Gem A is 1/5 the mass of the entire Fabrial, and 5 times the size of gem B. If a human pushes the Fabrial forward with X amount of force, Gem A will have X/5 amount of force as it is 1/5 of the fabrial, and it will then give X amount of force to Gem B as it is five times the size. This enables the Gem B to pull the fabrial forward with X amount of force starting the process all over agian. To beat out air resistance simply having Gem B as 1/6 the size of Gem A and we have acheived perpetual motion.

Considering even Nightblood will only chip an Honorblade, I doubt they would even come close.

A larkin could not, that would be too much investiture for them.

"I will lead the way" E-IS-315k, setting off, using his rear camera to make sure he didn't get too far ahead.

Taravangian seems to think of Odium as hatred more than anything else.

"I am sorry sir, I do not understand your question."

"The first one did not return, the next two were sent to investigate. They have not returned either."

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