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But he didn't. He preserved it. His deal, if it is kept, will make sure that the human race (as he understood it), survives. You can, or rather must, argue that he betrayed the rest of Roshar in the coalition. In fact he himself is clear on that point. Now, that raises another point. Are the Iriali traitors to the human race? I get it, but you are wrong. The example you are citing clearly are breaking the rules of sportsmanship. Hence you are obviously bad. But that is not loyalty. If they are your team, you are rooting for them to win (albeit in playing by the rules) against the odds. In other words, you are desiring an unfair outcome. If not for bad luck, the other team would have won. Again, a patriot is supposed to sacrifice for his country, but not for other countries. Again his country does not deserve this. Patriots are making preferences which cannot be justified by fairness. Well, no. The point being is that a morality based only on good and bad is impossible. Loyalty is a value of its own. Let's go to the old time trolley problem. Suppose you have decided to actually throw the lever. Now the spouse of the single person you would sacrifice shows up and shoots you dead to stop you. Is that a crime? Of course not. But what is the justification? We cannot say that your action is wrong, therefore you needed to be stopped. Now we have the spouse of one of the ten people you would save shove you aside and the bullet misses. Do we have a case of a murderous spouse saving you here? This does not work. People have attachements and conflicting interests. Loyalty is a laudable attribute. Both of the spouses are right and a determination of who should prevail cannot be made based on justice and fairness.
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Basic military conservativism. You do not know what you'll face. Hence you send the big guns. The price of failure is a Voidspren who knows too much in enemy hands. And no, you needed a Listener and a specifically a Listener who could credibly find new forms. They were in contact only with the Alethi court, who would not advertise and grant free access to their remarkable new Parshendi. The spren came in from Shadesmar. You need a worldhopper. And finding a Rosharan who cooperates in bringing back the Voidbringers may not be so easy. They were there. Remember the old Ghostblood base in the Shattered Plains.
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Located the right recipient on a whole planet. Got her second cargo the the right recipient even after detection. Escaped the Ghostbloods.
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Probably not, as Khrissalla mentions that Sandmastery draws most of its power not out of the sand, but directly from the Spiritual Realm. You also can use your ribbons pretty much indefinitely and they turn black only as you drop them.
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Dread in Brandon's books, or lack thereof
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I doubt the people of Threnody felt dread. The Shades were normal to them. Some people let them drift through their houses. I guess they treat them the way Northern Australians treat crocodiles. There are certain necessary precautions.- 18 replies
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It is visible from multiple worlds and it stays together under those different aspects. Hence those sources of light cannot be close by. This is a large group of red giants (possibly positioned artificially) We are not looking at stars
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Technically true, if you see it at the group level. However, this applies to all forms of loyalty, if you think it through.
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Are the Gol still canon? Viglix? And frankly, why did Brandon include them at all? Do they have a major function? I could understand one species. It would continue the Cosmere pattern of oppressed natives. But two? Why?
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As this is visible in more or less the same place and shape from multiple inhabitated planets, it must be quite distant. So we are looking at a group of red giant stars.
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Do I live in Kharbranth? Sorry for the flippant remark. That observation is correct. I cannot see how it would be controversial. Not entirely. The members of the Diagramm are entitled to their own interpretations. Taravangian is just no democrat. You can have your own opinions, if you can back them up. You are just not entitled to an opinion merely by having a heartbeat.
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If we agree that he got Amberite on his pants, who did that? If we assume that he himself does not carry Amberite, then we have two possibilities He kept worldhopping in the middle of a war Somebody other than himself is carrying the Amberite on Roshar? Do the Ghostbloods have a group of military style enforcers using Amberite?
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Well, no mixing the magics does not do it. Otherwise all Radiants, mixing Honor and Cultivation, would be affected. No, Thunderclasts also have red eyes. So alternative explanation: They have red eyes because Odium granted them Surges, which are not his system. But that was allowed. They built their cities that way. Yet the Eila Stele forbade bonds with Spren. Hence Forms of Power are older.
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Everybody's favorite Voidbinder does not have red eyes: Renarin There you have Odium's own system: Voidbinding Quite a lot of gold around him Why would that be true of the Fused? And if the Regals are of Odium, what was the original Singer system, which they must have had, otherwise it could not have been forbidden?
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If they originally come from Odium, why do they have red eyes?
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Already on Roshar many years before the Everstorm? He was chief steward. You don't just show up at Kholinar palace and be promoted chief steward. We are talking decades of invested time here. Whoever sent him must have had access to Fortune and a lot of resources. But it does if Axindweth works for Mercy on loan to Odium, who needed human agents to work among Rosharans. Sazed kept them in a bag.
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Harmony has Kandra A Feruchemist with an Aviar from Scadrial? Would the Ghostbloods simply murder an agent of Harmony? Roshar is a very big place. She has a lot of places where she can operate. She blew the whole operation without alerting alternate local support? And why use a Feruchemist to depose a gem if you have multiple local operatives? And the big elephant in the room, why would the Ghostbloods help Odium years before the Everstorm? In a package in his quarters presumably, yes. Why fight? Mraize looks like a guard. Approach under a pretense and then spike him. Why draw attention to himself in the first place? Again, nothing conclusive, just contradictions. But they all fall away if you give up a central assumption: They come from a known world and faction.
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Here we are at a second clue the aviar caused that - possible the Feruchemist used Connection linking his face to the land. However Navani saw him in a younger version. If that is true, we saw a full Feruchemist. And our dearest Mraize has gotten atium most likely
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They have a history of thousands of years. Hoid is grandfathered in. This is getting into ... odd territory.
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A knife wound to the chest. Sure. If anybody on Roshar knows about hemalurgy, it will be Ghostbloods. The Feruchemist's metalminds are gone. What kind of Fering is Mraize now? I suspect a Steelrunner.
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Mraize killed Gereh Axindweth fled off planet. Why would a Ghostblood with access to many bases on Roshar flee off world? Even if one of them was a Ghostblood, we are left with determining who the other group was So somebody off planet managed to recruit two people from among the small number of dissenters of a small minority population? Possible, yes. Likely, no. Theoretically obviously, yes. But ... These rings were conspicious. In both cases they looked odd to casual observers. And with bracers on arms and ankles you can cover a lot of metal. Even if they were tin, how many metalminds do you need? And one of them impersonated a Vorin woman. She could put loads of rings on her safehand. That really suggests that they were running out of slots. Somebody who has a connection to Scadrial is best suited to killing a Feruchemist. And Mraize has an Aviar and maybe enough Breaths for a Lifesense. He has powers. Exactly. Fleeing off planet means travelling over a thousand kilometers to the Horneater Peaks. Or she had a way to open a temporary perpendicularity. That would make her very exotic. That is a very good question. Two possible answers: During the early Final Empire The Lord Ruler's control over everything was not as tight. It took centuries of war. Impersonating some noble's steward We know that the Terris had some (indirect) access to the pits at an unknown time, as they knew the Feruchemical properties of atium. That works only on a world whose people know what Feruchemists are. Hence, not Roshar. Southerners. Terrismen live in the north. 15 years + plus the time between Gavilar's death and SA1 + time between discovery of the parshmen and Gavilar's death + plus the time she needed to master that ability. In other words decades.
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There are a couple of indications. None of them definitely proves anything, but together they are suspicious. Rhythm of War strongly suggests that neither of the Terrispeople in question was a Ghostblood How do you recruit Terrispeople from Scadrial without Harmony or Thaidakar knowing? The Terris of Scadrial were pacifist hippies to an extreme degree at that time We have depiction with multiple rings. That suggests a full Feruchemist One of them was good enough with Connection to pick up a language from another species. Years before the time of The Way of Kings and that was years before The Bands of Mourning when the more exotic forms of Feruchemy were still ill understood on Scadrial and duralumium must have been worth a fortune. And in Northern Scadrial the only known foreign language was the Terris language at that time. How would she have trained? She fled off plaet, hence was not directly working for Odium And finally during the early days of the Final Empire every Terris man had two very good reasons to flee. (Sorry, I could not resist that).
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They seem to be clearly connected to Elantris. Yes, but sourced. They come from Ashyn. Mercy, yes sorry. But Sixteen, whom Shallan ambushed in Lasting Integrity.
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OK. first things first. At least Adhesion and other Surges can combine. I assume that Skybreakers lack the Reverse Lashing. The only other weird thing we have seen is Dalinar healing temples. This may be a combination of Tension, which may also, like Cohesion, allow the tapping of an object's memory, and Adhesion. Secondly Bondsmith Adhesion can do everything Windrunner Adhesion can also do. Dalinar glued people and objects together. Thirdly we have never seen Surges operate differently among orders other than Bondsmiths. The lashings except for Reverse Lashings are the same among Windrunners and Skybreakers. Soulcasting is the same for Elsecallers and Lightweavers. Progression is Progression. Truthwatcher Lightweaving is also Lightweaving (save for Renarin). In a vision we saw a Dustbringer use Abrasion. No difference to Edgedancers, Bondsmiths bond vastly more powerful Spren, hence they can do more. Other than that I'd say a Surge is a Surge.
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Why? As far as we know these realms are chronologically in sync. Dilation would make her time slower, hence it would be a shorter time to her. It seems to me that by her personality Valor just puts more emphasis on ... encounters with members of the opposite sex. That message very much reads like they did not meet for tea and cookies only.
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It is that way. But why limit it to the CR? Have you ever wondered why Sel will play no part in the space age Cosmere? There is your answer. They are hopelessly sloooooooow. Ever wondered why the Ire left Sel? Same answer.
