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He moved a planet, shifted continents, redesigned populations. He has a problem taking sides, not acting in general. Gathering and transmitting information, however, is what he excels at.
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Sazed loves liberalism. Passing the power to somebody else won't work He does not need to act a lot. All he needs to do is create a few hundred beads of Lerasium and some kilos of Atium and there will be his army. That may be the role Wax is being groomed for. He will be the general.
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But how? Why don't the Aviars shield themselves?
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How does the machine detecting aviars work? Aviars, at least the species carried by trappers, hide their minds. That is the key point of their abilities. So how do you build a machine that detects them? Does it simply burn through by sheer power? Or are the Aviars shielding against (Nalthis) only and do nothing against (Scadrial) But if so, how are those who are not currently using their abilities located? Is the machine using a combination?
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Ruin could be seen as the compromise between decay and destruction. Yet to destroy you need to organize. You could potentially split up any Shard multiple ways. Likely. He wouldn't want to. Sazed believes in diversity and variation. To him it is better to be passive than to dictate actions. A Shard is a kind of mental illness, as it instills a compulsion into your mind. Minimizing that is a worthy goal.
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As a whole yes. But if you say such a thing like "Our actions sre driven by impartial honor", you are now open to experimental verification. Exactly.
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What is it with Mistborn and the number 16
Oltux72 replied to jjreeder's topic in Cosmere Discussion
16 is a power of 2. If you start with polar opposites, you will need to arrive at a power of 2. (pushing/pulling - internal/external) At the quadrants it is not so obvious, but you could come up with opposites) -
That touches a point. The holder has an influence. But the Shard has a core component you cannot undo. In a world which has Shards, morality and values leave the realm of philosophy and enter, at least partially, the realm of empirical natural science.
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By which medium does a Soulcaster talk to the soul of the object in the CR? Is it the same way Cognitive Shadows and travellers in the CR talk to each other? Can it be blocked? In particular can you Soulcast inside a Coppercloud or near a concealing Aviar?
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fused [OB] Let’s discuss. How the Fused use Voidlight
Oltux72 replied to SzethIsBadAsHell's topic in Stormlight Archive
To an extent they can. A KR can summon his blade without Stormlight.- 67 replies
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Traveling off of round worlds in the Cognitive Realm
Oltux72 replied to King of Herdaz's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Highly problematic and certainly incomplete. You see, the majority of thinkers in the Cosmere (SA1 era) are sure that there are no other inhabitated planets. The effect needs to be localized. Or imagine a planet with three continents unknown to each other. There is no majority opinion on where the world ends, assuming equal population. Even worse, unequal population growth (or decline) would alter the majority or make it vanish.- 22 replies
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Traveling off of round worlds in the Cognitive Realm
Oltux72 replied to King of Herdaz's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Because people can have mutually exclusive opinions. Either there is a large island in the middle of the Atlantic called Atlantis or there is not. Either there is an oceanic passage between North and South America or there is not. Either California is an island or it is not. Either the eastern edge of the world is in the Atlantic or in the Pacific ocean. There is no middle ground. Now it is possible that the CR is different for individuals. But if not, it needs to decide at some point.- 22 replies
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Obviously people like to discuss what honor actually is. On Roshar the point is to a large extent moot, because there is an authority that has defined honor: the Shard Honor And there we get a clear message: oaths are the core concept. They must be kept, no matter what. You can apparently disagree on what your oath means, but you must act according to your convictions. Hence, if you accept somebody's loyalty in exchange for yours, the deal is done. You must protect them, or, if it is too late, avenge them. Mercy is not an option. Odium states that he is bound by the spirit of an agreement rather than the letter like Honor, so we could discuss what exactly constitutes an agreement, but it is clear that a promise is a promise. Likewise it is unclear whether a threat counts as an oath (unless formally declared so), as you don't make it to somebody. That raises the interesting question on what happens if you make a promise that conflicts with another promise, for example you promise two people the same thing. Swearing loyalty to somebody, however, is an oath. There is just no way around this. The letter of the promise counts. There is just no way Honor would ever blame you for insisting a promise be kept or inflict the customary punishment if it is not. In fact, if you see a threat as an oath, revenge is no longer optional. In no case could it be dishonorable.
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How many Aons can you keep going at once?
Oltux72 replied to Karger's topic in Elantris and Emperor's Soul
Frankly, I doubt you need Intent to make an Aon. Only to activate it. Otherwise you would need to know what the Aon does. -
Given that mistings are not original in the final empire, we can be pretty sure that, for a few generations at least, mistborn of the first generation breed true.
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Sure absolutely. Just ask the Stormfather. It was cruel and excessive. Not dishonorable. This is the whole point of splitting Adonalsium. Honor is not good. Revenge is very close to the core of honor. If you reject revenge, you reject honor.
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There is nothing to forgive. You rebel, I burn your city. You kill my grandparents, I kill you. That is just what honor demands. There is nothing warped here. There is nothing to forgive in the first place. It is dishonorable not to avenge relatives. His comrades, in fact his best friend, spurned him for just doing the honorable thing. And well, if the Alethi as a whole defend your enemy, then you attack them as a whole in form of their capital. Evi took away a weapon of their people for her personal benefit. She is praised for being a peacenik. People here are very much measured with two different rules.
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I hold the suckling child in my hands, a knife at his throat ...
Oltux72 replied to Oltux72's topic in Stormlight Archive
They still need a working larynx and tongue. Some teeth also help. And they do use at least the general knowledge of the talker. If it were literally just an unmade speaking, the majority of the death rattles would have to be in a foreign language, or, assuming they are using the language of the location foreign visitors would have to start speaking a language they do not know or lose their accent. Yet not everybody would wish for the knife to slip. Everybody on Roshar being OK with predicting the future is very much against Vorinism. And why use a child or agree to that? Even the Diagramm uses the terminally ill or beggars or criminals. The general public would insist on such a selection. Odium can see at least partially the future. As can Renarin. He does not need his champion to already have agreed. Granted, his plans can fail, but he may learn from failure. -
I hold the suckling child in my hands, a knife at his throat ...
Oltux72 replied to Oltux72's topic in Stormlight Archive
a suckling child - you need to be able to speak to get a death rattle a knife at the throat - that is the very place you must not cut if you want a death rattle "all who live wish me to let the blade slip" - that does not fit. The Diagramm are hiding what they do fearing an outrage or, bluntly, a lynching -
Why do so many people turn into aristocrats or monarchists regarding Moash? His grandparents were killed. Their civil rights ignored and subverted. The guy he tried to kill was deemed a failure by his own uncle and everybody else. He asked Kaladin for permission and got it. Why the loathing? Because Saint Kaladin did change his mind?
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Bonds without oaths happen between Ryshadiums and their spren dead spren and humans and Singers Yelig-Nar and his host (granted, he comes in a gem) possibly Aesudan's guards and voidspren Furthermore the epigraphs can be interpreted so that the Heralds forced the oaths upon the spren after they have developed the first bonds and the Eila stele implies that humans had surges and spren while still adhering to Odium. Of course calling it a symbiosis is safer, but it is uninformative. Yes. Listeners are different from Rosharan animals. In more than that way. Where are their antennas? Why only four limbs? Why only one voice box? Why a conventional (relatively speaking) mouth? You may note that Rosharan animals do not have multiple forms like Singers.
