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Because they do not want to spend their lives naked outdoors. Much of their stuff is manifested. It will go away over time. They need a new source of Investiture. Secondly because living under the Fused is not an idea that all of them will accept. She is a Feruchemist, not a compounder presumably. She can't afford to spend her healing power continously. Is she a Ghostblood? She worked for them, but is she a member or a mercenary? If she worked for them, then why were the Ghostbloods helping Odium? That assumes that Sja-Anat will stay on Roshar. Why would she? I'd be as far away as possible from Roshar. Retribution will return. Sja-Anat does not want to meet him.

Well, then we need to ask the hard question: Was she wrong? The True Desolation would have been avoided. We have to make up our collective mind. Hoid would have let Roshar burn. Do we condemn him?

There is also the line about Iyatil running amok -> During TLM they don't yet know she is dead. Even before that. In Bands of Mourning he also posed as a beggar giving Waxillium the coppermind medalion coin. In The Last Metal he again worked as a driver, but IIRC for the police. There was also a longer absence mentioned in Rhythm of War. I think our new collective hobby will be fitting Hoid's travels into the timeline, now that Shallan's oaths are done. Yes. I think we now need to conclude that these people are bonded to Highspren. That puts the Stormfall before TLM, but they still think that Iyatil is alive. I would conclude that TLM takes place between the Stormfall and Shallan arriving at the former perpendicularity, that is TLM takes place during Wind and Truth. Now this is complex and I may be wrong, but it seems to me like Brandon has fiddled with the timeline and the Stormlight Archive 1 - 5 (save for the end of WaT) takes place in the gap between BoM and TLM.

Those are related to the war. These are not. She is still Alethi. Now, I am afraid that is a bit unfair a characterisation. She also signs a peace treaty with the Listeners. She doesn't always react with murder. It is true that if she thinks that it is necessary, she will outright propose it. To that I have to say that first, she is an Alethi noble, and second, that is a sign of intelligence. Furthermore, at the end of the day, the job of the Knights Radiant includes killing. They don't get these shiny, impossibly sharp blades for whittling sculptures out of marble. I could quote Nohadon's spiritual aspect, but you read the book.

Murder runs in the family. Sorry, I could not resist. You could argue that Jasnah is just readier to adjust to the realities of a war of annihilation. The lesson she gets isn't that too much murder is wrong. Nobody ever claimed that hiring an assassin against Aesudan was wrong. Her lesson was rather that she was dishonest about her reasons to murder. Queen Fen Rrnamdi did not choose peace. She switched sides in a war. Thereby she enables Retribution to go on a better spree of conquest off world. You could even read her lesson as an endorsement of stark patriotism. You do for your country what you need to do, morals be damned. EDIT: Even regarding the robbers she executed nobody argued that executing them for their crimes, should they be apprehended conventionally, would be wrong. Nor that Jasnah would have acted immorally in killing them, had she been attacked by chance. The problem there was seeking out and killing people for a lesson, even though they, in principle, did deserve death.

You are reopening the can of worms of who accepts the oaths. It is entirely possible the Highspren and Nale are claiming an authority they actually do not have, as the Stormfather did not have it, and that it looks only like they had that power because their knights accept that claim.

I agree. Yet I must say that this is a dangerous path to tread for an author. You are on the edge of becoming preachy. You can read this part as a treatise on morality. Stories can - arguably should or will inevitably - come with a message, but it should flow from the story. Here in practical terms the message has become the story. It takes a master to pull that off and Brandon did it, but he can't keep writing books like that. Hence, at the risk of repeating myself, this book is Brandon's Starship Troopers. Instead of lessons on moral philosophy from Mr. DuBois we got lessons on utilitarianism from Taravangian. As for the impact on Jasnah, sorry, she asked Shallan the very same question. She deserves to be asked them herself.

In the sense that if you knew that you can do so, it would work (unless there is something that would prevent you from praising Retribution with the right Intent). But it looks increasingly like they don't know and the Listeners are the exceptional group that does know because he sent them - and nobody else - a messenger to tell them, presumably to be on the safe side with Honor. That is in principle independent of the question of how well it can be stored in gemstones. Even Towerlight can be stored. It is just gone in seconds. For Stormlight we know that the limit is weeks (that can be derived from the story line about the Weeping). All we know about Warlight is that it must be storable so long that you can use the gems you charged at midnight for a day. That, however, only gives a lower limit.

What makes you think that they won't mention these events? The Lost Metal already did mention them, to the extent they were clear to the protagonists. It seems to me that the Stormfall - Scadrial frame of reference - happened very soon after or slightly before Kelsier and Harmony had their conversation. Yet that everybody knows something happened does not mean that it will be mentioned often. How commonly do we talk about the First World War? Just to give an example.

Why would she give up her power? I'd say Lift is a backup for the very worst case. She is a source of Lifelight in case Cultivation were forced to flee Roshar.

Szeth had sworn the 4th ideal. It had just not been accepted by his spren.

Unfortunately it does not look like they'll get it any time soon. Adolin in chapter#146

I guess you have discovered a further reason, why Retribution gives the Listeners Warlight.

Alashwa is presumably an endonym. It is definitely older and the world got renamed/gained an additional name due to its state. "Ashyn" is presumably a translation from an Alashwan language.

Worse, it is an outcome Rayse already talked about and Dalinar rejected. In a certain sense all the people who died in the last two books died in vain. No, for that would have allowed Dalinar to escape questioning himself. He could have hidden behind the general revulsion against killing a child. By making him a man, Dalinar had to face the core question: Can I kill somebody for being what I made him into.

Sort of. It still looks to me like she had to execute plan B or C. But she did plan for the eventuality and got an acceptable outcome. I guess she could have gotten a better outcome without Hoid interfering. She is not going to be pleased with him.

They should be able to run caravans more efficiently than Nalthians. They don't need to carry victuals, don't sleep and can use cognitive beasts of burden.

Godeke, Zu and some Lightweavers were left in Lasting Integrity. Taking into account how long the trip took, they must have become stranded in Shadesmar at the time of the Stormfall. Shallan, however, did not meet them at Urithiru. Nor did she meet Mayalaran. Did they go to Urithiru and missed Shallan while she was at the Horneater Peaks? Will they stay at Urithiru?

Are you looking for evidence or a theoretical reason? Evidence: A month after the Stormfall still no magical healing in Azimir. Either they don't get Warlight or it does not work. Reason: It has an odium-component that makes it unsuitable Do the tones for Odium and Honor still exist? I mean sure you can play them, but do they still mean anything in an arcane sense? They do. In Urithiru, because they get Towerlight. I suppose that was Lift's intended mission. She'd power the Edgedancers should Retribution have sucked up the other spren.

Not really. They are landlocked. How much food can you ship in carts drawn by chulls? They cannot feed a whole planet. In fact they will have to fend of refugees at spearpoint quite soon, if darkness stops farming elsewhere. A look at history is quite useful at that regard. For example, why did admiral Villeneuve set sails and left port leading to the battle of Trafalgar? Because he needed to. They could not supply a fleet of that size by land.

Until Jasnah learns how to make an elsegate or they get desperate enough to try anti-Towerlight to blow a hole into the bubble. Yes. That takes time. Also Shallan is visibly pregnant when she gets there. The state of isolation must take at least multiple months. There is something far more worrying. According to the meeting spanreeds remained inoperative and Radiants powerless even after more than a month. That really suggests that either Warlight does not work for them or that they don't have any of it. That is very troublesome.

Yes they are stuck, because the Oathgates have become inoperable and they have no idea where the perpendicularity is. The assumption that they are stuck because their spren are held back is our assumption. Brandon did not say it.

Could it depend on the Dawnshard they correspond to?

Is that just me or are Era 3 and Roshar rejoining the progression of time of the rest of the Cosmere going to happen at the same time? Coincidence? Does this mean that Era 3 will have serious mixing of cultures and magic systems, including Rosharan stuff? Not like contemporary Earth but like in the age of sail, that is in the trade city around the perpendicularity and the capital you will have a visible offworld community, in rural settings they will be unknown and planets with literate population will be basically universally cosmere aware? Like in 1880 or so, you could theoretically go to vacation in Australia from England. It would just cost you an astonishing sum and take the better part of a year. Secondly, this explains the Skybreakers and Iriali on Scadrial. And it explains why MeLaan met Horneater refugees who hadn't yet resettled. All in all, this will leave Roshar, which has just been hit even harder, as they need to adjust to the Everstorm, with a huge initial technological disadvantage as contact is reestablished in earnest. However, their main magical disadvantage, that you cannot take spren into other solar systems has just been removed. Finally can we take this as confirmation that the Iriali are headed for Scadrial?

Can you really imagine a pragmatic man like Taravangian accepting half his armed forces being illiterate and the other half being unwilling to touch something with two hands?