Ripheus23
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Hmm, maybe Susebron actually. He would have some, err, experience, unlike Unknown Elend and Captain V-card Kaladin. Then there's Adolin but idk...
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What if Hoid resurrects Adonalsium but Adonalsium turns out to be like Hoid and it takes the cosmere on a crazy adventure of its own, which we never know? So like the ending of Narnia, for example, but with Adonalsium.
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Finally came up with a good idea about why the engineers of the Keyscape would've failed to complete the absolute proof of the codex for the machine.
Here's the idea: an ecograph is the metrograph, not of an infinite series of infinities, but of an agent correlated with the aleph-metrographs. Now, Apollyon (the antiset) has an ecograph, the antigraph. Now Armirex, for example, thought there was enough disjunction between Apollyon and the Form of Evil that they didn't sufficiently share the antigraph between them, but anyway, the fact is that the seal on the Final Power (the Destroyer-city's disinheritance) depended on a gap in the interpretation of the antigraph's interaction with other ecographs. That is, there is a unique simple topological interface between the antigraph and any other ecograph, so that the "destruction" of the victim structure assumes a particular geometric form, and no other.
But the Host of Ripheus made an honest mistake, maybe the most honest in history ("A mistake such as only the Messiah can make," as the Esauists say). They acknowledged, through and through, the priority of the concept of good over evil, and so did not look as closely at their concept of evil as they could have, and assumed what they thought they needed to satisfy the parameters of the Keyscape (which is an isotypic graph or isograph), which proved not enough: the door to the Anomalies, that is. (At least, this is an aspect of the problem, the "error" in the codex.)
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The beginning of something much larger
Ripheus23 replied to Nathrangking's topic in Creator's Corner
I really liked it, the implied pacing is solid and the buildup of images is too. There's an empathy gap for me at the start but the introduction of the blind man's condition via flashback filled that pretty well quickly. -
Mwahahaha my restriction is working, everyone thinks it's 1, when it's really ~1, which is like -1 except ~1^infinity = mwahahahaha
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Actually, not too far off either... But I want to restrict knowledge of the infinitieth root of 2
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No, I AM in a Pythagorean cult. Not even totally joking...
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Not every Shard has a "magic number," but some of them do, and it seems to be for a reason. This is my theory. *Law and Order sound* OK, I was trying to think of why 10 is important to Honor/Cultivation/Roshar (even before the Shards). Some people have speculated that if 5 is Edgli's number, then Edgli might have a role in the Rosharan system, since 10 = 5 * 2. However, consider that Odium has gone after several pairs of Shards. I was thinking: in the Rosharan system, 5 is derivative. There's a WoB if I'm not mistaken that says the Nalthis quantification of Investiture is going to be kind of "standardized" cosmere-wise, or is the standard technically, or something. So, let's say 5 is actually the base level of a Shard's power. I know, the base is "infinite" but we're told none of them can use it all at once, or what. On Roshar, Honor and Cultivation have merged their powers (or had merged them, rather). On Scadrial, the Shards ended up fighting, but they created extremely powerful systems of systems of magic. But Rosharan Surgebinding is at level 10 of itself, and divides into two 5s due to the base for the two Shards, except now Odium added -1 to the equation, so to say, and moreover broke the 5s apart. IDK if the Dor was combined before the fall of its Shards, but let's say it is otherwise a full combination but Odium imposed a -1 on it, so reduced its power to 9, too. Ambition might've had a method for increasing her level without taking up another Shard. That would've been a worry for Odium, in this context. Harmony, for example, is at a strong 10. In the other cases, even if the Shards didn't merge as the Vessels, then even when they were combined, they were still across two Vessels. (So Honor "didn't break the agreement" or what.) Does it matter? Maybe not, but let's say it gives us a way to rank the powers of different magic systems. So: Odium: seems to be "at" 9 somehow, maybe.* Or -1, also, or something. I suspect Aona and Skai were physically killed, like they were concentrated in a physical form when they were killed, since if they were in the Spiritual Realm more, why would Odium have had to push the Shards into the Cognitive to prevent them from being accessed? So, let's say per Shard he can -1 their power. So the Dor (e.g. as the extreme of Elantrian magic) is at an 8 or a 9. Likewise, Roshar's is at a 9 (only Honor is dead). Pre-Harmony, the Metallic Arts would have been each 5, except maybe Feruchemy would've been 10 (the ambivalence about it being the "really" end-neutral example, here). But under Harmony, though seemingly limited in some ways, it's probably at a straight 10. Endowment's system is probably straight 5. Threnody has no determinate system. Let's say it's just morbidly set to -1... Patji's system, for all we know, is at 0. Maybe all of Autonomy's offworld systems are at 0, as they don't count as from Shards in themselves. Taldain could just be at 5. *I have a quick idea: Autonomy didn't directly help Odium ever, but at some point in deep history, she did give him something that has helped him since, and she didn't make enough effort to figure out how terribly her decision could turn out. So let's say that Autonomy gave him something that sets him to 9, i.e. not something like a full other Shard, but maybe a massive pocket of some Investiture of hers she'd awoken... If this idea carries over, it's possible that Shards increase power in quanta of 5, if they take up another Shard. So the maximum would be 80? Or there's a geometrical increase, or who knows. Still, this doesn't explain why Scadrial's number is 16 (or the original number assigned to Adonalsium, or whatever...).
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You're Invested and reading minds
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I would spend the day with Kaladin, but not for any legitimate reason.
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The nightmare of antimodality is Apollyon's "definition" of transmodality from antipossibility...
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Oooh, read about a new paradox today: "K: K is unknown." Another liar-type sentence.
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Maybe it's a weird thing where not knowing silver's magical qualities sort of converts it, Cognitively, into a magic void. And this has something to do with the actual metal, but only people in Threnody have a tendency to think a lot about silver as mysteriously magical, so they produce the Cognitive enigma of silver subconsciously as magical? EDIT: there's a WoB that magic is not a used system on Threnody, so it can't be consciously accessed directly.
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I realized, if you take, "Do X," and go to, "Why do X?" you can then define a specific do-X operator recursively (in erotetic logical space) as, "Ask why." This operator can then preface itself to infinity, as aleph-zero:
Why ask "why ask 'why ask ... why ask 'why do X?'"
X itself can take the value of the formula of supererogation, which at infinity is at aleph-zero magnitude. I think, though, inputting supererogation-X into the function takes the first infinity to the power of the second, so it gives a specific higher cardinality. It is easier to represent, in this case, starting with beth-zero and succeeding by transcension alone to beth-one, because beth-one is the Continuum even if it is not equal to aleph-one. So at any rate, the why-transet ++ the supererogation-transet = a deontic transet whose degree is beth-one, i.e. is a continuous transet. This fact is specified in the autoset, which is a unique transcendental number. I.e. it is one out of all the uncountably infinite numbers encoded into the Continuum, that is used to map to the beth-one why-set, and it is not the result of any selection function but free will (within the deontic transet in general).
This might not seem helpfully clear, but it should play a role in the explanation of romantic ideality, from the apex-staircase and the heart-operator relation (which is transfinally arithmetical, it turns out), alongside the nexus-heart and so on. (I've even identified "void numbers" that are negative counterparts of ghost numbers...) At least, that's the goal.
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"What is the aleph-zeroth question on the Test?"
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LOL I came up with these things called the "dream" and "nightmare" operators.
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I think this works but I'm not sure.
Take the "unfair sentence," which = "Don't comply with this sentence." It's an imperative so it = "Don't comply with this imperative." Now, letting A for the unfair sentence:
A is not complied with if and only if it is complied with.
But by erotetic quotation, this = A is not complied with if and only if B is complied with, and B = "Comply with this imperative." This would be the imperative analogue of the disquotational exchange in assertoric logic.
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OK haha before I forget, even though this is in the YouTube version of the essay:
The liar loop can be used in a supernifty proof of the exchange theorem (that, "This sentence is false," and, "This sentence is true," are interchangeable):
- A: B is true ("The next sentence is true")
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B: A is false ("The previous sentence is false")
- "B is true," is true if and only if A is false.
- "A is false," is true if and only if B is false.
- But "if and only if" = identity.
- Therefore, "A: A is false," and, "B: B is true."
In other words, the liar loop "turns into" the conjunction of the liar and honest sentences.
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Storm it, the only reason I was going to add to this thread was to say this
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Mmm Spirit-LEGOs mmm. Which makes me wonder why the stormfrick aren't there Cosmere LEGO sets *weeps like Kaladin on a good day*
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Yeah @Thanatos here it is: ... Here's an interesting WoB: EDIT: IDK if this confirms Roshar-system confinement vs. Braize confinement in particular: Or:
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Idk I think Sanderson has grounds for developing Rayse to a great degree. To make a deep character out of him and not just "the guy who killed Shards before, had the most terrible Shard, who was then defeated" with some minor sentimental background. I guess I'm not expecting a twist antagonist in SA, firstly. Otoh the storm stuff makes me wonder if there is an allegory about climate change somewhere in SA, so maybe it would be a disaster-response epic after 5, with 1 through 5 being the war story of SA.
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Ixthos brought up the case of ("Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation), which I hadn't considered, but now I think the erotetic 'trick' works here too, and in the way my dialogical approach to the liar index works. But idk...
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Argh!!! RIP evil-Endowment theory
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I'm familiar with the violinist case from abortion ethics, but just from the sidelines. So I'll have to check up on the plank case... The temptation is to think the liar sentences to be meaningless. But the index has a meaning, it's just the indexical element in the sentence type is ambiguous between an external and internal reference. Moreover, I remember one essay that said, "This sentence is false or meaningless," also generates a paradox, so I'm trying to avoid the meaninglessness solution (also I have an incomplete belief about meaning/reference/etc.). Other weird cases: This sentence is true or false. It seems that if it's true, then it's not false. But then it's not "true or false" but just true. But then it's not what it says it is, so it's false... This sentence doesn't correspond to a fact/this sentence doesn't cohere with an ideal set of propositions. These might be used to gauge "theories of the truth predicate" in some way. E.g. the first seems like a liar sentence but the coherentist version just seems weird to me haha EDIT: haha the plank case is mentioned by Kant one time, I didn't even know that was his citation. But yeah, they fall under a similar heading, I think. There's an overlap with the idea of government democide by forced famine, too, iirc. EDIT 2: also I think I don't have a solution to the Quine case, at least not one I consciously recognize... EDIT 3: also, loaded questions: I think their presupposed contexts are pragmatic implicature instead of semantic value. Technically, "I haven't stopped eating baby kangaroos," for example, is true if I haven't even started eating them. But no one would usually ask a question about that, unless they assumed I'd started.
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Maybe Odium is trying to form his own set of Heralds and so the Thrill provoked Sadeas into getting himself killed so he can become a Cognitive Shadow?
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I thought he was bound to the Roshar star system? Idk actually...