KalaDANG

Mine is my face. I thought it would work. Regretting it now. It’s actually my senior yearbook photo. About the only photo of me that doesn’t make me wanna go inquisitor and spike my eyes out.

You can add me when crawling outta the bed in the morning. I definitely don’t look human.

It's like every scene with Renarin in it just exploded.

I'm just finishing up another reread of Oathbringer, and in one of Renarin's first person sections says this - Reading this kind of made me feel like he might be on the high functioning end of the autistic spectrum. I've met some people with Aspergers Syndrome, which is a high functioning autistic disorder, and I can see some similarities between the way they act and the way Renarin is written. I looked around online for what the signs are, and through Oathbringer for examples of Renarin showing the signs or symptoms. Some of the signs are that they're often restricted, rigid, and even obsessive in their behaviors, activities, and interests. Symptoms may include: Repetitive body movements; moving constantly. Obsessive attachment to unusual objects. Autism spectrum disorders are characterized by social-interaction difficulties, communication challenges and a tendency to engage in repetitive behaviors, but symptoms and their severity vary widely across these three core areas. On the spectrum of autism, there are different levels of function. Individuals with level 1 autism spectrum disorder experience deficits in social communication which causes noticeable impairments when supports are not present. These individuals often find it difficult to initiate social interactions and demonstrate atypical or unsuccessful responses to social advances of others. Level 2: “Requiring Substantial Support” Marked deficits in verbal and nonverbal social communication skills; social impairments apparent even with supports in place; limited initiation of social interactions; and reduced or abnormal responses to social overtures from others. I think that Renarin is definitely higher functioning than a level 2 for sure. He seems more like he would be a high functioning level 1. I'm sure if I was to make a more extensive study of Renarin throughout all of the books, that I would see even more examples of him showing symptoms. Thinking about Renarin as if he were on the spectrum adds so much to his character for me. Not only is he fighting through Epilepsy, and feelings of self doubt brought on by years of being told he isn't good enough, and that he should just become and ardent and leave, but he also is fighting through autism. It changes every scene that he is in for me. He always seemed so cowardly, uncomfortable, scared, and whiny. But imagining him having to fight through all that he struggles with to be as high functioning as he is, and to do what he does, he becomes one of my favorite characters. Obviously, there isn't really any definite way to prove that he's on the spectrum without getting a WoB, but I think this adds a ton of depth to his character that really wasn't there for me before. Let me know what you guys think, and let me know whether or not you think this could be likely.

Yeah like @Nathrangking said, In Oathbringer it heavily implied that Wit told Jasnah about the truth behind the recreance and why the knights broke their oaths. Jasnah says that they should tell the others, and ivory says no, that they’ll break their oaths too. And says the reason Jasnah didn’t is because she is logical and doesn’t let her emotions rule her, like him.

I’m pretty sure that the investiture is all used up. I think Soul casting only drains the amount of stormlight that is needed to fuel the transformation, so there wouldn’t be anything left over. I mean, if someone soulcast something into aluminum, aluminum wouldn’t hold onto the investiture. Since it’s inert. So we would see some kind of release of energy when things are made into aluminum if this were the case. So i’m leaning towards probably not.

Haha well I’m no religious major, but I think it’s SOOO cool that Brandon is able to have all of these different religious views expressed in his books. It’s so clear to see how much effort he’s made in trying to understand other religious, and political viewpoints. And @earthexile, I think that his religious beliefs definitely at least influence his writing, so you’re definitely right there. Personally though, I don’t think he really intended to bring any of his own beliefs into it. I think he’s made a point of that actually. From an LDS standpoint, (I’m actually LDS as well) It doesn’t seem like he at all intended to create any kind of grand theme that would purposefully make the overarching theme of multiple series’s point back at his own religion. That’s not really his style. That’s more a CS. Lewis kind of thing.

Foopers. I have to explain myself like, seventeen times. All I’m saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. HE CAN’T BE HEMALURGICALLY SPIKED IF THE METAL ISN’T TOUCHING HIS INSIDES. Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said, but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldn’t affect him anymore. Does that make any sense? Maybe I’m just not saying it in a way that can be understood. All I’m saying is that there’s no way to definitively know whether or not the metal heads were still inside him. So we really can’t know if he was being feeling the effects of Ruin’s influence, since we can’t even know if he was hemalurgically spiked. Even if he was though, I’m kind of confused at why you think Ruin would want TLR to kill Kelsier instead of Ruin trying to have TLR kill himself somehow. That would have advanced his plans quite nicely. I don’t mean to sound aggravated or anything. Repeating myself over and over because I’m misunderstood gets annoying real quick, so I wanna make sure I’m clear with what I say. And, if you can, don’t get all rage monster with ma boy Ishar. He didn’t say anything rude. He just didn’t really understand the point you were trying to get to with your theory, so he asked. And you kind of responded with a lot of hate there. Even if he had said something rude, it’s a theory. That said though, I’m also kind of confused at what Ruin would be trying to accomplish even if TLR HAD been spiked. TLR was gonna kill Kelsier anyways. Nothing else happened in that square that really advanced his plans much. Killing Kelsier in a specific way wouldn’t have changed or accomplished anything that he would care about. The Skaa still would have rebelled, Vin still would’ve gone after TLR, and they still would’ve won. Even the church of the survivor would be virtually the same. (Aside from the possibility of the spear no longer being a symbol). So, I’m kind of with Ishar a little bit. What’s the point?

Yeah sorry I meant the head of the spear. My bad. But we’re talking about the Lord Ruler, and he was standing up the whole time. We don’t really know if the rebels that stabbed TLR used enough force to get the head of the spear all the way through his body so the metal head of the spear wouldn’t be touching him. It all kind of depends on that. If we’re talking about Kelsier getting spiked though, I dunno what the point of spiking him would be. He was dead anyways.

The roast is strong with this post. Though, in my opinion, I dunno if Ruin would try to force the Lord Ruler to kill Kelsier. Kelsier was kind of Ruin’s agent on Scadrial while he was there, even though he didn’t actually have a spike. If anything, I feel like Ruin would have tried to make the Lord Ruler take the bracers off. It’d be interesting if he actually HAD been spiked by the spears. It depends on whether or not the head of the spear was in him, or poking out the other side without touching him. Which is kind of how I’d always imagined it. It’s probably not realistic though.

You actually see a full sleepless earlier in Oathbringer. It’s Kaza’s interlude thing. The cook.

This excerpt is from Oathbringer in a stormshelter in Kholinar. "Kaladin finished his drink, wishing it were one of Rock's concoctions instead, and flicked away an odd cremling that he spotted clinging to the side of the bench. It had a multitude of legs, and a bulbous body, with a strange tan pattern on its back. Disgusting. Even with the stresses to the city, the proprietor could at least keep this place clean." Is this a sleepless? I mean, I doubt that Brandon would have called any special attention to the cremling if it wasn't. I'd still like opinions though.

The sheath is aluminum.

You could always just look him up in the Coppermind. Everything on there has been canonized. Most confirmed theories that have been brought up at signings are referenced somewhere on there. But you have a point. Having a place to find all of the Hoid theories would be super nice.

Do you think he's referencing Ruin's influence? Could they somehow inherit the same flaws in their spirit web that allows Ruin to control them? That would be pretty stinky. That's like inheriting a curse from Nightwatcher kind of stinky.

Ooooooh that's interesting. I think that it probably would be inheritable. I asked a similar question about whether or not acquired light eyes in Stormlight is inheritable. And apparently it is, so long as you had light eyes while you were having kids. It would make sense for it to be similar with misting abilities. I mean, for example, almost all mistings on Scadrial are descended from men that consumed Lerasium in the early days from of the final empire, became mistborn, and passed the abilities on. So it's logical to assume that spiritweb alteration by hemalurgy is also inheritable.

Didn’t Stormfather confirm that the reason that the Radiants broke their oaths was because they learned that the Parshmen were the original inhabitants on Roshar? I don’t remember a denunciation from Honor, or the reducing the minds of the parshmen to mush necessarily being a part of it.

This explains the period of time that Taldain was blocked off. Autonomy didn’t want anyone coming to the party that he didn’t invite.

A boombox would definitely be more fun, haha. They party pretty hard on Taldain. They don't do anything halfway. Especially not parties. I wonder which sand master would DJ at their parties. Is this why they changed artists towards the end of book 2? That had always confused me, but it's making more sense to me now.

I’m confused then. Wouldn’t Honor still want to abide by the agreement he made with the others? I feel like he would have still tried to honor it.

I've been thinking about how the shards agreed and made a pact to stay away from each other. How was Honor able to fight against his shardic intent and stay on the same planet as Cultivation? That would be going against the agreement. Are we supposed to assume that the shard didn't view the agreement as binding? Or do we assume that he went there with Cultivation straight off, before the intent of the shard took control? If that's the case, do we also have to assume that the intent eventually took control, but at that point Honor was too heavily invested in the planet to leave? I feel like in that case, Honor might have been driven to try to destroy the planet in order to escape, Ruin style. I'm just confused in general. Help?

HAHAHAHAHA IS THAT MACHINERY I SEE IN THE BACKGROUND?!?!? Point taken.

I'm pretty sure it's stated in the graphic novel at some point and in the prose version. But at the very least, in the graphic novel, that's how they are pictured. I can definitely see Nalthis. The nonsensical idioms remind me a lot of what Zahel is constantly saying. Edit: I looked again at the specific art in the book that I was thinking of, and since I can’t find the exact place it was written, I can’t be certain whether or not I’m just remembering wrong on the eyes, but at the very least, the sand master glows gold.

During a reread of Oathbringer, I noticed this characteristically strange and confusing thing that Evi says. "Today we will not need to scrub the walls, and the life will be as white as a sun at night!" - Chapter 36, Oathbringer It doesn't really make any sense, considering that the sun doesn't shine at night. It's pretty easy to dismiss it as a proverb or idiom that lost its meaning in translation, which is exactly what Dalinar thinks. But I was thinking about it, and no duh, there's a place in the cosmere where the sun DOES shine all night. That's Taldain, since it's tidally locked. It's been speculated quite a bit before that the Iriali might have some kind of connection to Taldain, and that they might have lived there at one point. Could this quote from Evi be some kind of saying that originated on Taldain, and has been carried with them for thousands of years, with them knowing the meaning of the phrase, but just not understanding or having knowledge of the context that gave the saying meaning? There are a few other connections, like their golden hair and yellow eyes being reminiscent of the golden eyes sand masters display while using their powers. Has anyone else seen any interesting connections there?

Teft tells Kaladin at the end of WoR that the Radiants weren't made up of just the knights themselves, meaning that there were also the squires. If we DO bring the squires into it, it makes sense why Urithru was so huge. Say that the estimate of 2703 is accurate, and say that per knight (Excluding bondsmiths) there were a minimum of 25 squires (Minimum bridge crew size). That makes 67,500 squires altogether. I don't even know if that would fill more than the lowest level of Urithru. That's a big generalization, because most of the experience we have with squires comes from Bridge Four. And during recruitment in OB, Kaladin has at least 40 or 50 squires alone. If it was similar during the early days before the Recreance during heavy recruitment, (Which I think it was, because the Windrunners have got a really militaristic setup) The Windrunners were probably a lot bigger than the other orders. 50 squires each is 15,000 squires overall. If that's accurate, the amount of people working with the Knights must have been INSANE. Now, I kind of doubt that all the orders had the same amounts of squires. But imagining the sheer amount of people in Urithru blows the mind. It's ten tiered, so it's possible that the largest orders might have been at the lower and larger levels, while the smaller orders might have been arranged higher up, with Bondsmiths at the top. It's really interesting. I hope we get a look at pre-recreance organization of Urithru.