Mistspren

@Yata sorry to seem uptight about that, I understand what you meant.

At signings:

@Yata at the risk of sounding like a huge nerd, Andromeda isn’t the analogy you’re looking for, as it is another galaxy entirely, not another star, and thus also has no singular planet. No intention to cause offense, just trying to point that out. @NickPlum the cosmere itself is much as described above, but know that the cognitive realm allows worldhopping, by which characters can travel to other worlds. At this point in the story most of these interplanetary interactions are easter eggs, and not necessary to understand the plot, but be on the lookout for clues if you want to delve into the deeper cosmere. The coppermind is a great resource, but be forewarned not to go looking around on it unless you are willing to find spoilers or are extra careful.

HoA>FE>WoA This is a hard pick... I personally loved the ending of Hero of Ages. Final Empire has a nostalgia factor and is just a really great introduction, but I feel bad putting Well of Ascension last because I really enjoyed it. They were all good books and it’s hard to put any one of them “last”.

Wayne is just a great character.

I’d have to give this fight to the full feruchemist. The ability to heal, possibly even heal shardblade wounds with gold (using Stormlight as a similar precedent) and the speed/mobility and strength would our maneuver the Shardbearer. Tapping steel and pewter would outmatch even shardplate, but only briefly. If the shardbearer dragged out the fight they would easily win, but the sheer far faster feruchemist would have the advantage in the streets if Elantris and win, probably with a dagger to the eye. WoK and WoR spoilers: Next fight: Awakener (5th heightening) with 3 ropes and a cloak (plus surroundings). VS Mistborn (Final Empire era level of power) with a standard size vial of every allomantic metal and a small pouch of coins. Location: Have fun with this The Forests of Hell (Therondy)

@ElephantEarwax Once you get enough you should sell your breaths to Brandon for a WoB on another shard’s intent.

Also @zombiebiker24 WoR and OB were really good, you’ll enjoy them.

I’m guessing it’s slow business. A ways to go to the First Heightening

@ElephantEarwax Has anyone actually given you their Breath?

When you apologize to the spren of a chair after kicking it.

And on Roshar you can use your money as a lamp, or inhale the light to heal yourself, or break reality. Or kill people.

I read the disclaimer, it was..... Interesting

Oh I always assumed the thing trapping Odium in the Greater Rosharan system was the oathpact... There's probably a WoB or statement in a book contradicting me, but I forgot to check. I was under the assumption that if the oathpact was well and truly broken Odium would be freed, but now that I think about it I realize Odium could have contrived to remove the Heralds without a Desolation.

@ElephantEarwax Does the Dark Alley have connections with the Ghostbloods? Also what metal are the spikes in your cookies made of? I could do with some allomancy.

In Mistborn: Secret History, we learn that more Invested people can hold on to the cognitive realm more easily. (e.g. Kelsier and Vin as opposed to Elend) The Fused were Invested in by Odium, or Voidspren, or something of that ilk, which would allow them to stay for long enough to be returned. I am quite inexperienced when it comes to more advanced realmatic theory, but I'd assume Odium has set up something (along the lines of Calderis's guess) that pulls them back to Braize, and later on the Everstorm. It could be more of a magnetic type pull, or a spren that guides them there. Whatever the case, Honor likely copied this system for the Heralds, which leads me to believe that when Jezerien was killed, he is less dead, more trapped by Odium, possibly held and tortured until he gives up and is pulled toward the spiritual realm. This final death would sever him from the oathpact, weakening it further. This also sets up the disclaimer that if Odium ever wanted to remove a Fused, he could reabsorb the investiture and they would be sent to the spiritual realm. Interestingly, this could mean that Odium could pack up his Voidbringer army quickly and leave as soon as he was freed, with minimal losses to his power, as he is likely not as Invested in Roshar or Braize as Honor or Cultivation ever were, he merely hijacked an existing race that could be easily controlled with spren. It is also interesting, seeing that Honor was invested in a few immortal champions, Cultivation would have been more powerful, leading Honor to be seen as the more opportune target, but it may have been set up this way. Honor devised the oathpact, which locked away Odium, fully knowing his Heralds would eventually break, setting up a system for what would happen when that occurred. Honor and Cultivation also expected Odium, being sly and crafty, to kill Honor, then eventually find a way around the oathpact. Thus Honor groomed the Stormfather to be a backup 'mini-Honor', and possibly Cultivation prepared the Nightwatcher just in case. Cultivation, not having given up as much as Honor on the Heralds, allowed Honor to be killed, possibly even helped it along. All this to play the super long game. The real question then, is what exactly is the final goal. Splintering of Odium? Simply the death of Rayse? Again, this is just theorizing, but it definitely seems that Cultivation is on top of things, (re: Taravangian, Dalinar, Lift) with a complex web of plans to catch Odium, and it seems the only major deviations are the Recreance and the Everstorm, but even the Everstorm was planned for by Honor. Sorry about all the words, but it definitely appears that this is all part of a plan. Unfortunately for the Radiants, Odium likely has a plan too.

So, the Everstorm is now the thing that reincarnates the Fused, but back before Anharietam, there was no Everstorm. Possibly the Fused returned to Braize, where they were trapped by the Oathpact because the Heralds were upholding their oath to protect by fighting the Voidbringers, even while on Roshar. Only when they broke and left Braize, starting a Desolation, did their oaths break. Now, the Fused are no longer stuck on Braize because the Everstorm is another nexus of Odium’s power, drawing the Fused there rather than to Braize. Thus the Everstorm is a way for Odium to circumvent the oathpact, even if he himself is still restricted. It makes sense if you think about Honor’s emphasis on oaths, but it’s only a theory. I would guess Odium has been laying the foundations of this for a while in order to allow his Fused relative immortality on Roshar, giving him agents to destroy humans and free Odium. Unless the Fused’s goal is to do whatever they did to Jezerien to all the Heralds, breaking the oathpact fully and freeing Odium. Still, just a theory. Hope this makes sense.

I actually saw Calderis reference this WoB, and I was reminded of it when I saw this thread. Brandon says entire pantheons are worshipped with Bavadin as every member. The archipelago with Patji is called: The Pantheon Probably not a coincidence. Also probably (definitely) not an original observation. I hope I’m doing the quoting right, I’m pretty new to this. Anyone else thinking the entire Pantheon are lesser aspects of Autonomy in some sense?

Good to know.

I have a question for Brandon: Which shard would get along best with Hoid? At worst it would be a RAFO, but it could give us insight into other shard’s relations on Yolen, or at best another shard’s name.

How about not giving up my Breath... I’d rather not be a Drab. Thanks for the cookie though! My favorite character is Hoid. Kind of bandwagon, but I’m a bit fan of his mystery and banter. Following him probably Vin.

Could a Larkin inhale an entire shard? Would they become planet sized? I’m really curious to see if this is possible. Would the larkin just pop? Also, if Nightblood and a Larkin tried to eat each other simultaneously, what would happen?

I’ve already posted one question, but I thought I should do the introduction, and I am glad to be here. I started reading Mistborn a year ago, and have read nearly nonstop since, only recently finishing OB, finishing off all the current Cosmere novels/novellas. Can’t wait to theorize.

Thanks, I was hoping it was the ideals, but Brandon probably wants to draw that out over time. Just means more dramatic conclusions to follow, and that’s by no means a bad thing!

I’m new to the forum, but I was curious if there is WoB on any connection between Dalinar as Unity and Shu-Keseg (by extension Shu-Korath and Shu-Dereth as well). Elantris mentions how Shu-Keseg preached unity, and the Korathi and Derethi preached unity in love and obedience, separately. Dalinar claims to be Unity after opening Honor’s Perpendicularlarity in Thaylen City, but most interesting is Odium’s response: Does he refer to Adonalsium, Honor, or Devotion and Dominion? Some theories state that Dalinar is becoming Honor but his intent is Unity, still related to bonds. Others state Dalinar will become Adonalsium and unite the Shards. I personally like the idea that Dalinar swore three oaths, the 3rd, 4th, and 5th: And: I added bolding where I believe the paths are. “I am Unity” sounds like the fifth ideal, and when I originally read it, I thought both of the previous two sounded like oaths and couldn’t decide which was. Dalinar may also be Unity as a shard in the future, or take up multiple shards, or an innumerable amount of other possiblities, but I can’t shake the feeling the calls to ‘Unite them’ and Unity are related to Sel, and likely Dominion and Devotion in some way. Sorry about the long winded post, but hope this is good discussion fodder. Once again, if there is WoB on this that would be good to know.