Aon Tia

Or that..

I think their soulcasters would have been confiscated and Ardents if refused to cooperate by doing manual labour will be held prisoners

The whole reason for Recreance and how humans are not native to Roshar is so obvious now that you think about it Humans are the original voidbringers. lol.. so good.

So in general, elsecallers are better at soulcasting, does not mean that a lightweaver individually can not be better at soulcasting. But then it should also mean that willshapers might be better at transportation

Welcome to the shard Dawnshot! Were you created by Dawnsingers too?

Dear @PrinceGenocide How are you finding the Rose empire? I am pleased to inform you that fate has again brought me to Sel but this time I have found myself in Arelon. Indeed, there were those amongst us worldhoppers who believed that an outsider, a worldhopper, like us can not be chosen but I am pleased to inform you that I have become an elantrian. I have shifted into a grand palace in the city of elantris. It is as beautiful and as magnificent as you have heard my dear friend. I think we should use this opportunity brief though it may be, to build diplomatic relations between our two empires. Together they shall stand stronger against the Jaddeth empire! yours truthfully the traveller ——————————————- @FictionSpren @Ookla the Prolific @Knight of Iron I like “world singers” as a name for us! It is very unassuming and gives us a perfect excuse to find acceptance into various worlds powerful circles

Yes and dalinar’s introductory chapter in twok being named “unity”

Granted but you can manipulate spatial distances but only one way, you can only increase the distances and not decrease them I wish for water on Mars

Ok I totally forgot this past. For the first time, Trell is sounding more like odium than autonomy

Thank you Ene

Granted but your caps lock is broken, you think you are writing in caps but others see only lowercase. I wish that people will stop killing animals on this post! It is really hurting me.

Frankly I think that fabrial science is limited because they are trying to trap the spren and make it work. But once they discover the way ancient Rosharans used to do it, by getting a bond built with spren and letting them handle the technical aspects of the surges then we will see real advancement

Has Trell abandoned them? I need to reread BoM

Yup it is a theory. I was totally trolling you

Do not forget the Parshendi Ocean form!

So you are saying that the kidnapped women have been taken off-planet!!? Well that would make finding them impossible. Very smart!

Which is totally weird, right? For a land that has so much water, they have not much progress done in ship-building either. They stay close to coast and stop before highstorms.

And here I agree with you that even this advancement was impeded by the existence of shardblades and plates. High oxygen levels in the atmosphere should make gunpowder infeasible. Aircraft and motor vehicles and railways are not developed due to highstorms. You need long stable kms worth of networks of railway lines and Smooth roads, with highstorms good luck maintaining them. Food industry and manufacturing industry has not developed due to soulcasters. I think in Earth’s history, we have 3-4 millennia with low advancement and only last 500 years have seen tremendous increase in advancement. I think Roshar has reached the equivalent of industrial revolution in fabrial revolution, but now that it has, we should see an exponential growth in technological advancement. But you might have a point too. There might be something more happening behind the scenes. After all we see even in the listeners society also had only recently seen explorations and looking for newer forms. May be odium was suppressing life on Roshar from advancing.

Roshar has seen a lot of war and destruction. During desolations, we have been told that human societies actually regressed technologically. Before that, I think Dawnsingers were having a decent level of technology. All the dawncities that we’re created, they had single unified codified language etc. But at the time of Ahrateim, humans were wielding bronze weapons at best and stone clubs. That proves that at the time of last desolation, human society was at its basic levels, Stone to Bronze Age. After the last desolation, heralds turned their backs to humanity instead of providing scientific knowledge. Radiants were still engaged in war with the singers and unmades, this war went on for another 2000 or 2500 years. These wars must have further hindered any technological advancement. Finally, singers were lobotomised and made Parshmen and Radiants also left. From here onwards, Roshar should have seen progress. But then Honor died and cultivation went into hiding. All the active agents of progress have been removed. Presence of shardblades and plates and soulcasters have certainly impeded progress and made humans look for the easy way to solve their problems. Much like in elendel basin. Easy Availability of manual labour I.e. parshmen has further reduced the need for finding scientific solutions. Need is the greatest catalyst for progress and inventions. Then Roshar suffers the constant onslaught of highstorms. Whatever efforts have been made have gone towards making human settlements highstorm resistant. Roshar has also seen the greatest number of global level wars than any other planet in Cosmere. War is never good for progress. I think Rosharan high oxygen environment also poses problems, why electricity may not be safe to use and lack of tectonic movements no fossil fuels no coal or crude oil based technology. therefore, as opposed to Scadrial, Roshar will always follow a more magic-based invention route. So, already Roshar has a lot of historical and physical factors for its lack of advancement. But adding an unmade to the mix? Well you can say that already thrill has caused people to be more occupied with fighting than innovations.

@Isilel a different way to look at Lirin but I think everything you say, merely shows that he is not perfect and is as liable to flaws and biases as any other human. I think he focused only on making kaladin a surgeon because he did not want his sons to have a half education that he could offer and they could not afford to send both their sons to Kharbranth. They could not afford to send kaladin even. I do not see anywhere in the text that would imply that he looks at Laral as a possession then or now, he was simply hoping his son to make the best possible match their small town could offer. And it was very plausible considering that kaladin already belonged to 1st or 2nd dahn amongst the darkeyes. The money that he stole was used by him as a light source for his surgeries which is a noble enough use and he was going to use it to provide for kaladin’s medical education which in the long run would have greatly helped their town in the future. I do not think that anybody really believes that Roshone would have let Laral spend that money on her education of art or history. Most likely, Roshone would have spent it away in bribes hoping to find a new posting. I think none of them thought that Tien could be drafted for the army simply because Tien was too young to be drafted up till recently..

It is possible that he normally prefers areas with high density population, more population more death to cause rattles.

Granted we are not angry but vengeful. I wish for a pet chasmfiend

Granted Ene will not kill you but I will. You are dead! I wish for another puppy to give to Ene.

All the epigraphs mentioning voidbringers in twok in retrospect are so obvious that on every terras you smack your head and go, how did I not see this?!! I also like the mention of symbolheads by Elhokar and how it was foreshadowed way back in twok, then in wor he says they have gone so you think that he has lost there interest and then in OB, at the last moment, he just starts saying the first oath and dies before finishing it! It is the cruelest bit of foreshadowing by Brandon. A theory we all had, was finally proven true but still did not happen!! I also like the foreshadowing of how Renarin is so uncomfortable with his blade and plate and he winces each time he summons his blade, I should have realised what was up especially after kaladin touches the blade at the duel and hears the scream!

Welcome! Which one you liked best?