Plum Rhinoceros

Yeah, I think I'm staying on Toucan. Night vote is still more weirder particularly on Axo, when compared to moving off Roo when Axo was at 5 votes. Unless Tross? Guys?

Toucan -> Toucan's response to suspicion on them seems to be weird. They seem to think that we suspect them for voting on Axo, which is not the entire picture. They seem to think the question is "why did you vote on Axo?", but the question we are posing is "why did you vote on Axo in the night?", emphasis on the night part. I feel like a Saboteur here would be hyper-aware of what they actually did, so this actually makes me want to give minor village points? Ig -> Yeah, it's that damning move off Roo onto Octo. It's just that, I can't find anything else. I don't know guys, can I interest you in some Tross? I suspect them more than either of these guys.

Weasel, my point is that what might be seeming as sub-optimal for us, Octo might not see it that way at all. I think they believe this was the best course of action for them and they don't think of it as a mistake at all. In addition, I think Bea's point of a possible e!Kandra stealing Coinshot is a real threat. There is no rush to solve Octo today. If you believe they are not a CS, we hold them responsible to their kills. I really do not want to direct them but we can give them a list to shoot in, and the hypothetical real CS can prove Octo is lying by shooting outside that list. We keep holding Octo accountable for the kills, and revaluate as the game goes on. I'll repost my situation - I know it looks like a case on Octo but I just started reading D1 and making notes like my subsequent posts. Octo's posts were the most prominent in standing out in the first couple of pages. Also, I posted that after the rollover. Jo announced the cycle close later but I posted it after the clock hit :00, so what exactly was the counter wagon attempt? @Melon Dingo, I am very slightly wary of Heron too, but this is not the cycle to act on it. It is very easy to identify v!Heron as the game goes on, so again, as long as we keep revaluating, we should be okay. I'm okay with either Ig or Toucan. The vote is not a preference of one over the other, it is to break the tie Toucan has with Octo. I'll look more into both of them to see if there's any reason to favor one over the other. edit: Forgot to talk about Flami, seeing as Bea is voting them. @Oxblood Beagle, this is the part I was talking about. I think the way they express this comes off as very genuine and villager-y.

Okay, back at the screen staring the hours of footage - Art's Obs - D1 Cont. -> Weasel shifts from DF to Roo to make it 4-4-3 for DF, Axo and Roo resp. Ig moves off a "poke" vote on Roo towards Octo. Roo down to 2 votes now. Axo up to 5. Refer below; this does not look like an e/e interaction with Croc. Minor village points for Flami. At this point, Heron asks for alternatives as DF has claimed Lurcher. Heron offers Roo as a potential alt. Gecko answers the call, albeit with a different alt in Weasel. Please find the recording attached. Interestingly, it is quite a large post without a single mention about Roo. Bea votes for Axo, it's 6-3 now. Also, important to note that, at least at this point, Heron is proposing Roo as an alternative to CW (DF) and not the main wagon (Axo). They just want DF to survive any emotional allomancy shenanigans. Gecko asks for options again. Bea suggests Roo. Gecko says they will back it and they do. Bea shortly follows. Major village points for both. Axo 5, Roo 4. DF moves from Axo to Roo. Now it's Roo 5, Axo 4. Everyone thinks it's 4-4 due to an error in the VC. Heron holds off on voting to maintain a tie. References -> [3] - Art's Conclusions - D1 -> DF, Bea and Gecko are largely village. Heron to a tiny bit lesser extent as well. Hunch says Weasel is village as well. Roo's last vote on Weasel was not a throwaway in my opinion. It was a genuine answer to the call by Gecko for the Weasel alt train. I just think the thread of conversation was going so fast, she did not realise an alt train had already developed on her. I liked Zebra's content. I liked Flami's behaviour. I'm not liking Tross or Octo. Ig and Ele to a lesser extent as well. I'm actually not sure what to make of Axo. I'm not ruling out an e/e train, nothing really to suggest the train was v/e other than Croc's vote on Axo. And we know Croc was a Rioter, their vote would have disappeared had they used/been around to use the Riot. Don't know about Dingo either. Art's Obs - N1/D2 -> Refer below; again, firstly, there's nothing to suggest that the counter-train (Axo) is v. Secondly, this also seems to be a TMI that the counter-train is v. Thirdly, this could also mean Tross trying to maintain the common consensus that the counter-train (Axo) is village, if Axo is evil with Tross. Negative points for Tross. Refer below; same post, removes Croc from PoE for no reason. I think this post from Flami - particularly in the spoiler box bit, exudes pure villageriness. Agree with Heron re: weird Toucan night vote. Note that D2 starts here. 3 attacks, I would tend to believe both the Lurcher claims for now. Lurcher nerf also hints at the possibility of multiple Lurchers. Octo says they shot Croc because they went through Heron's list and found a mutual suspect. They also say Croc was kind of annoying and did not contribute to much. Skimmed the rest of the D2 References -> [1] - [2] - Art's Thoughts So Far -> I oppose an Octo exe this cycle until we get some clarity. I understand Weasel's argument that they don't think Octo is actually the CS, and that they are baiting the actual CS, but I do think we have hints of CS!Octo quite early in the game. Remember, they asked if Coinshots can attack themselves. My question to @Scarlet Octopus is, why would you ask that question? If you are a Coinshot, why would you want to attack yourself? I also understand Weasel's argument that it is less-than ideal or sub-optimal village play to truly claim CS if you are one. But Weasel, sometimes people play sub-optimally and that is okay. To further convince Weasel, the choice to bait the real CS requires planning and time to discuss with any potential teammate. But here, it looks like they just blurted it out. I really don't think a Saboteur's first reaction on learning that they just lost yet another teammate would be to claim that kill. What exactly are other Octo voters' arguments? Like I said, my biggest problem is the reason they asked the aforementioned question. I'm thinking they are actually a Coinshot. But I am not ruling out some failed WGG scenario because of the question they asked. It could be that someone was supposed to protect Croc but that did not happen for some reason. The issue with this is Joe is a very creative GM, and e!Coinshots have been done to the level that it is not unexpected any more. So, speculating distro here, I do not think there is an e!CS. The possibility of 2 v!CS though.... I would not rule out. I'm not gonna pile on Octo before we get some more info. My highest suspicion would be, as stated above, AlbaTross.

Art looks down from his hiding spot as the security guards exits the room. That was a close call, indeed. He'd have to be more careful while playing back the recordings. Getting information about his situation was important, but he did not want to reveal himself before he knew what was going on. He'd checked the flight manifest, and confirming his suspicion, his name was not in it. He was not supposed to be on this journey. [I thought I had a bit of free time so I sat down to catch up on Day One, I thought I had enough time to finish it up and drop a vote but I got called away and came back right at the rollover, and I did not want to lose my post so I just submitted it.] [I'm also sorry about my continued absence, I had some last-minute social obligations turn up, and I had to attend to them.] As he sat down, he rewound the tape to the begin, with the new found information that ASR (Croc) and Isabel (Roo) were a Saboteurs. Art's Obs -> Quite early in the day, but Axo was the second vote on Roo Quite early in the day but Zebra was the third vote on Croc Refer below; I really don't like this vote from Meerkat. It looks like they took Octopus' reasoning and ran with it. Not to mention, it draws it reduces/equalises the gap between Roo/Croc/themselves and DF. Octo changes from Meerkat to DF. Puts DF in lead tie with Croc. Important to note that, though Octo had previous stated suspicion on DF on 2 separate occasions, it is here at this point that they decided to follow through with their vote. Roo puts DF in sole lead. Refer below; Croc makes the same observation as me with regards to Meerkat. Hm. Meerkat moves from DF to Roo. Changes it from DF lead 4-2 to 3-3. Double hm. Refer below; Curious. What possible reason does Octo have to ask this? I can only think of a WGG, which is a Saboteur move. If Saboteur, why not ask this question in private? El votes Meerkat and creates a three-way tie. Refer below; Tross giving village-points to Roo for simply posting the vote count is... ehhhh. Gecko moves from Croc to DF, puts them in sole lead. Art's Inferences from Croc's read post here - Axo, Weasel -> village ; Gecko evil. In my experiences, Saboteurs are more inclined to/tend to call their teammates names. Not ultra rudely, but in a playful joking, not really serious way. I call it... Saboteurs' Familiarity. Particularly here, Croc calls Gecko lazy which is true, but none of the players who interacted with Gecko till this point mentions it. References -> [3] - [6] - [8] - [10] - - After covering 5 hours of footage, Art was hungry. It was time to raid the pantry. [Taking a break, and need to go as well. Hopefully be back soon]

Art looked up from the recordings of the first hour and scratched his head. He could feel the bump on his head from when he was presumably whacked, considering the memory loss. The onset of a headache did not deter him from making notes about the events he revisited. He was certain he would not be clear as his head was not in the right space and he did not have enough time to go over the entire recording but he thought that what he saw was enough. Later, the others would find a note stuck to the main hall wall - How could it be in defence of another traitor if there were barely any allegations? Please note that there is still no change of vote from them despite this being their second post stating their suspicion on Echo. Posting so I do not lose it.

Art wakes up as he looks around unfamiliar surroundings. He was groggy and could barely recall the last thing he remembered. He quickly realizes he was in some tunnel or a duct of some sort. He had to crawl around as the duct was not high enough for him to stand. As he starts crawling around, he realized he was in the air venting system, as he could peer into whatever he was on, through the vents. He decided it was too early, and he knew too little of the situation to reveal himself to everyone below. In fact, he knew he was in a unique position to hide up here and notice all the happenings and then reveal himself in an opportune moment. He decided he'd first head to the security room, to find out everything he had missed since he was knocked out cold. [Hello, just chiming in to say I'm here. It's been a busy couple of days unfortunately, and while I will try to catch up before the end of the day, I don't think I can contribute to the discussion of Day One. I would really appreciate a cover till the night, when I should be less busy. Thanks!]

Elephant, Swan, Penguin

Elephant, Hyena, Swan

vulture Rhino Rhino Cuz I be humble like that

A strange looking man in a suspicious looking hat and fedora places a vote on Indigo Weasel for freestyle and Plum Rhinoceros for Balance Beam.

Yeah it wasn’t a good vote I don’t think.

Crap I shouldn’t be this busy bro I’m getting pissed off how do I not have time for this *sigh* okay, I’m not very good at figuring out people doing suspicious things and STUFF but I’m trying I only have my gut and I haven’t trained it well but it says salmon meerkat

Appreciated. You’re neutral leaning village to me. Mouse is leaning v as well, because they kind of seem like they’re slightly playing to protest the neglect the playstyle rule, which seems like something I personally as an elim would not do. If that makes sense. I’m not sure about Meerkat. I’m going to read through again and see overall vibes from them. As well as most of y’all :P I’m also going to RP a little cus I like my CR, so next post will be a while in the making.

Uh, am I…? I did want to say something, so I could keep interest in the game. I struggle with caring when I have certain card dealt to me, and I need to practice. Might as well do it with a “clean slate” in an anonymous game. So bear with me. lol.

awww I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings Good grief anyway i don’t wanna get kicked from the game C1, it’s just frustrating to try to read your ideas

Bro type out a normal sentence, in non-meme form also you’re the one being over-defensive, so…

Dang that’s a lot deeper than I was looking very interesting.

I was, I apologize. Lasagna was calling my name, and I had to listen. EDIT: then I forgot and started watching YouTube. Salmon Meerkat for now. No proof, no nothing, but I need something up and floating in the air, dripping a little oil on my gears. Y’know, so they can start turning. Gah, I almost cooked for a second there. But not really.

Hello everyone! I look forward to intentionally putting you to death.

We did the thing!

For the Falls! For the Fifth Cohort of the Iron Hawks! For the Cult of the Salmon Meerkat!

a little over 20 minutes left fingers crossed for a third red flip

sorry, ma'am I do feel that the timing of Dragonfly's vote on Crocodile fits in with the idea that Croc got online and said "go ahead, bus me." IIRC, it was like 20 minutes after Croc posted his weak defense. I also feel the concern for discussion on D2 was fabricated, because they never followed up or attempted to really generate more discussion since they became one of our suspects. Granted, I'd like to wait until Dragonfly is online again before we do anything about them, but they're definitely on my naughty list

Uh. You remember the Croc scan, don't you? Of course we have a Seeker. Kas didn't actually have Bronze N1. That was a ploy they planned when the Seeker claimed to him. The only reason you haven't been scanned yet is because we trusted you, with other players (like Croc N3 and the Lurcher N4, since we thought they could be the e!Lurcher) taking priority. I'm pretty confident you're lying about losing your extra life to shake our resolve. As far as I'm aware, the Coinshot's kill order is on you, and I don't believe it's going to change. I really don't believe you're a Thug anyway. E!Mistborn makes more sense. If I am somehow wrong about you, I will look at the Seeker and the Lurcher next, or the others will if I'm dead.