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given flamingo was also protected last night, that would require two elim lurchers to protect both (or mistborn rolled iron again) and swan to submit the kill on themselves thing is i know the lurcher who saved swan so if that is the case im not too worried, several others know their identity as well -
i do think croc, flamingo, and lion all work on a team, specifically with lion being a thug putting in all the kill orders and flamingo being a mistborn they're desperate to keep alive, this of course means there's an unknown elim lurcher among us as well, but we already know that it also makes sense for why the lurcher would protect flamingo over lion, given a thug is more expendable than a mistborn
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big difference between surviving a spiked kill obviously (village unless WGG), this is within the context of vigilante kills (can be friendly fire or an accurate hit) ed1t: the point is, we know the elims protected flamingo BEFORE they claimed thug, when they were mostly implying to be mistborn, which the elims should want dead in case of them rolling bronze that is a magnificently sized stretch from my pov, occam's razor suggests the elims saved flamingo because flamingo is one of them ed2t: i suppose i can see your "keep coinshot busy theory" but again, we cannot know for certain until flamingo is dead and it's too risky to let e!flamingo live
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one bit of context youre missing, hyena, is that when flamingo initially survived the first kill, they were extremely cagey about revealing their role for poor reasoning; they only claimed thug after their "mysterious" second survival, insisting that someone else protected them for unknown reasons the amount of suspension of disbelief required to believe the elims would protect a villager twice in a row to waste our time is just... no. i have even suspected flamingo is a villager but that does not change the fact they need to die, we cannot risk letting an elim get away with this. someone compared flamingo to aman and that is apt. the potential damage e!flamingo can cause long term is not worth it, especially when it makes the most sense for flamingo to be an e!mistborn. ed1t: tldr if flamingo is village then they die and we move on, no real damage done, but if flamingo is elim than we take another big step toward victory; its a win win ed2t: like, the elim goal is for villagers to die, why on earth would they not let a villager die for 2 whole cycles? to protect one of their own who is also suspected? i dont buy it because the only other major suspect after flamingo was lion who also survived the execution due to being a thug v!flamingo just doesn't add up, no matter how genuine they occasionally sound ed3t: to clarify the initial refusal to claim what does v!thug!flamingo have to gain by leaving their thugness up for question? not claiming thug immediately leaves the idea open of them being a village lurcher or village mistborn. what does this accomplish? it makes the village reluctant to kill flamingo and incentivizes the elims to want flamingo dead so we lose one of our power roles. in other words, it protects from the village and paints a target on their back for the elims yet despite that, the elims protect flamingo, a potential village lurcher or village mistborn?? how does that work? why not let the coinshot eat one of our own power roles? it was only after their first lurcher protection that flamingo revealed they are a thug. it doesnt make sense the optimal play for any village thug, lurcher, or mistborn who initially survived a kill on their own is to just immediately hard-claim thug. it keeps the elims off their back and gives them time to convince the village they are innocent, but this did not happen meanwhile, the optimal play for any elim survivor is to keep the reason ambiguous for as long as possible, which is exactly what happened, so... i am hard-pressed to believe flamingo is not the e!mistborn at this point
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im kinda convinced flamingo is an e!mistborn at this point, they went into d4 voting for themselves which leads me to believe they rolled pewter that day, but i guess we shall see
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if that's the case we need to solely rely on votes at this point and ugh 48 hours is too long for this nonsense, can we end the turn early with a majority vote plz? ='[
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this is what hell is like Flamingo gotta be an extremely lucky e!Mistborn, right??
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what the actual...
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the deal with flamingo is they claimed thug after getting attacked by a coinshot twice in a row, which means the second time a lurcher protected them; it's near impossible to tell if the elims protected a villager to waste our time or if the elims protected an elim expecting them to get shot again, so unfortunately flamingo needs to die before we can move on at the same time we had a seeker check croc N3 and they were the elim tineye, so we all voted them out last turn when that was revealed in thread the night votes are because we know there's a coinshot and they've been using their ability consistently, it's to give them a semi democratic target
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im not the seeker but i know their identity and all scans, whether or not the elims decide to attack me is on them, but im not too worried
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ftr i was not "mocking" meerkat, shortly after he voted me i pm'd him and revealed my identity and my strategy for the early game to conceal my identity, and meerkat and i began working together in secret from that point forward with him serving as a voice for my solving that i was intentionally keeping out of the thread it was him and i together who decided croc was the best scan for N3 and it landed us the red flip
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seconded
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@Charcoal Hyena whalecome!
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its so beautiful
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someone remind me to upvote that post when this is over
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toucan is right about why flamingo and lion were not considerations, the goal was to dispel niggling suspicions of archrocodile and bring him into trust group or to uncover our best guess for a more active thread control elim ed1t: furthermore, meerkat had claimed seeker to croc so we expected meerkat to die last night if e!croc ed2t: furtherermore, meerkat rolled ???, brass, and tin, his soothe was the d2 soothe and the additional tineye message last night was his, i will not share first metal for opsec reasons
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meerkat knew seeker, asked me who to scan, i suggested croc and meerkat suggested croc
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marine invertebrate swan saw nothing
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(6) flamingo: crocodile, flamingo, lion, chameleon, toucan, weasel, (6) crocodile: mouse, swan, penguin, elephant, scorpion, rhinocerizz
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down with the pun-y crocodile
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if flamingo gets executed today, spiked can protect lion from coinshot to waste our time more me horn says execute lion and shoot flamingo
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rip cute and cuddly meerkat =[ rip cute and cuddly lion >=[
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why not lion tho
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cute and cuddly lion must lose sharp fangs and claws
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chameleon i miss sweet lizard
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