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  1. Heads-up: @Cream Tuatara, @Ivory Dragonfly - we need all Villagers on board for this one. If you have a better alternative candidate, let's hear it, but most calculations have us only one vote more than the Elims. We can't afford to lose Village votes right now.
  2. Reminder to all Villagers: as Dragonfly mentioned last cycle, we need to claim and hold these workform gems. Otherwise we could face a very tough road ahead as we fight our way out of lylo. The Elim wincon is not based on player parity but on voting parity, so it is critical to be able to secure the gems and enter workform if you can. We shouldn't be dividing the vote at this stage anyway as @Amethyst Scorpion has pointed out, so the drawback of workform doesn't matter. Edit: If you have secured a gem and entered workform, please do not claim. This makes it harder for the Elims to decide who to form a counterwagon on, should they attempt to hammer us.
  3. If you've been suspicious of them all game, why didn't you vote for them D4 since that could have killed them? This was the vote situation when you came in: You chose to go onto Hyena, now known to be a Villager, ignoring Tuatara, a player you have been suspicious of all game. It was decently close to the end of the cycle that you should have expected your vote might be decisive. (As it turned out, it wasn't, but no one expected the Dragonfly-Lion-Vulture trifecta, least of all ourselves.) More damningly, your vote saved Beagle, whom we know now to be Malibu.
  4. I'll start us off, having beaten the wardrums for the past few days. It's been sad having to stop doing my usual write-up vandalism but it's in a good cause. Heron, because I accuse you of being a traitor to your fellow Singers, of trying to sell us back into servitude to Odium. Oh, and because I'm told I need to say you hate cats. That should do it, shouldn't it? If not I have an essay's worth of reasons I think you're Evil. Lesgo guys. (No but seriously I'll come back in with the analysis again later on. I've been talking about it nonstop since last cycle - suspicious reactions, odd tone in posting, the D2 voting swap, and Heron's D4 voting patterns in light of Beagle-Falcon's flip gives us significant reason to believe that Heron isn't on the up-and-up. If anyone can top that and give me a far more suspicious candidate, I'll go for them instead. Ni su'cuyi, gar kyr'adyc, ni partayli, gar darasuum, Rhino. Ib'tuur jatne tuur ash'ad kyr'amur.
  5. Freedom. What did it mean? There is no escape, the Fused had said. Atticus shivered and scratched in the dirt. The symbols and numbers ran together and then it was not cold rain falling outside the storm shelter but ash. "A risk you're taking, Mesist," Atticus said. But it wasn't him. It was someone else, someone else who felt closer to him than the blood in the jugular. Mesist shrugged. Human, by the looks of him, with a strange hat. "We all have to be takin' risks sometime, Erikell. You're a Lurcher. You goin' to risk it all, or wait for the skaa to cut our throats?" Dark dreams of blood and betrayal. The ramshackle buildings of a small town with a glowing spren frowning worriedly at him. "Hera..." Atticus muttered, but there was no spren, only lighting, the bright sheen of a swordblade, flickering off water. How far to come. How far to die. There is no escape. He was an Alethi, charging into battle with a spear in hand, determined to die. Foolish reason, pride. But they were fighting for more than pride. They were fighting for a man's dream, a man's ambition. But also a dream of a nation. One single united Alethkar. Chickens wheeled about overhead. He ducked beneath the spear-thrusts of the disintegrating battle-line and jammed his spear through another. "For Gavilar!" he roared. He was a trader, peddling pieces of bright shiny metal to a foolish hunter, promising him it was silver, that it would protect him from the lurking shades. Foolish man. Shadowed boughs and dark trees in the forests. He was an apothecary, mixing his poultices, and keeping a wary eye as the koloss closed in on the town of Tyrian Falls. Storms always on the horizon. You couldn't escape them. You lived in their shadow, and made your life, as best as you could. You ran from your past. And you kept fighting, kept trying. Because the only alternative was to lie down and die, and that was the one constant unyielding core as Atticus was swept from life to life: A will like the steel of a Shardblade. Fire blooming in gemheart, illuminating with its brilliance. Never give up. Never give in. Atticus dreamed and walked in dreams and the dark dreams swept over him and drowned him in their storm-surge. He was Karnan, Alethi swordsman, proud bodyguard, betrayed by the one he'd served. Karnad knew there was no escape: that he'd given his word, that you had to serve or die. He was Kaian, runaway boy, in love with the Queen of Arelon herself, brother to a Dula, but more than that, deeply in love with life itself, and fleeing the shackles of the Shu-Dereth monastery. He was Kalsin, who knew that sometimes, you had to pay the piper. Sometimes, you had to face the darkness. Sometimes, you had to stare it down, even if it swallowed you up. Even if you lost. Atticus stopped running. Atticus dreamed. He was Kwai, painter, poet, spy, Forger, and a killer of kings. A man who painted with blood as well as ink. A man who worked marvels in soulstone and the artisan's craft. A man of contradictions, with friends in high and low places. "He wanted me to do it," Kwai was saying. "To kill Frava and Urskevan. I refused. We choose, who we are. Every moment, every day. I chose to walk away.” We choose who we are, Atticus thought. Every moment, every day. He let the dreams, the lives, the blood and the darkness rush over him, but he was Atticus. He rode them, as though they were waves, attuned to them, as though they were Rhythms. He was Atticus and he was a Singer, and he would die on his feet rather than be dragged back to serve Odium all over again. He was done with their wars and his life and his body and his dreams were his. He was a hard, brilliant gemstone, flashing with fire, and water could wear down a gem but it could not—not yet—destroy it. He was Tenth of the Dusk, trapper, with a fragment of a slain god blazing inside him. You never stopped fighting, and that was the point, and what the man who'd come to claim Odium hadn't yet realised. You surrender when you're dead. The machete rose and fell and Atticus breathed. A faint glimmer out there in the falling storm. And then again. The sort of thing for a story about heroism, about spren, about the Knights Radiant. This was not one such story. There were no heroes here, only Singers, desperate and afraid. Only Singers who dared to dream of freedom, of potential unfulfilled. Of living their own lives in a quiet, fruitful place, far from the war, far from the fighting, far from the demands of the ancestors. Far from the hatred. Atticus got to his feet and brushed clean the patterns he'd drawn in the dirt, every last one of them. With each deliberate stroke, he attuned to Valour. He was Attikas, one of the last sons of the Last Legion. He was Atticus, and one of the last of the free Singers, and never again would he submit.
  6. At the risk of triggering Vulture, given how we're basically locked in perma-lylo if we assume 6-4 (soon to be 5-4), I'm not super interested in team projections, to be honest. I get that suspicions need to stay fluid (thanks, Meta!) and should change as we get new information, though how much we get in the lategame depends. My question for everyone if I don't survive the Night is just simply: Do you really have a better candidate for the lynch than Heron? Because if you don't, you should vote Heron. Mouse and anyone else you're less sure about can wait. We need to lynch in order of certainty because until we know the disposition of the mediationforms (and especially if our mediationforms get gunned down in the Night), we have to assume we have no margin for error. That means you lynch the most certain suspect first and then if there is a next day, we move on to the next and to the next. I'm happy admitting I'm not dead certain even on Rhino and Vulture. I'm the sort of paranoid pain in the pula who retains that 0.1 or 0.01 credence they're playing the long game. It's just that my view is that in our lategame position, it doesn't really matter. We know we're against a team of four to five (three to four now) so assuming four, there's two other confederates out there to find first before reconsidering our priors. Ultimately it's the same principle: go from most certain to least certain. Happy revising Mouse credences later, but IMO, we can't control what Mouse does, we can't afford to lynch Mouse on the off-chance he switches teams, preventive/retaliatory lynching doesn't really take us to a good place (hi AG7 and Ventyl lynch), and most importantly - we're in perma-lylo. We mess up, we lose. It's not an enviable position to fight from, but I'm a Villager and I'm gonna go out fighting to the last. Most certain to least certain. Even if you think Mouse is Elim, or could be Elim, do you really think they're more suspicious or confirmed than Heron? And if Heron flips Evil, and using that information, you identify the connection to Tuatara - really worth opening that can of worms and ignoring Tuatara? And so on. (I'm not interested in possibilities where we're wrong about Heron because IMO the analysis points so heavily to Heron that if Heron is Village, we lose anyway. If any other Villager with a stone converts, we lose anyway. Why worry about those elements we can't control?)
  7. I mentioned Elim gems appearing - figured they were handed out from the stash because lack of decayform / stormform action seems to imply significant use of Village gems so Elim stash must not have been touched. I think Falcon assumed a Scholar had made them, and Heron ran with it because good excuse to band onto a Vulture train.
  8. Just going to point out since the Elims likely already know this that PoE dictates it can only be Weasel or Heron. If not Heron, Heron's probably in workform for tomorrow. Please do not claim workform, guys. We don't want the Elims to be able to easily have a countertrain to hammer on and if they have to pick their targets carefully, all the better. If you really feel like claiming, I guess you can always drop a trust a PM, but honestly we don't need to know at this point anymore
  9. Good write-up, Steel. Well, we've finally arrested Malibu. Good work, team At least we've denied them a sweep. 10 players, 12 votes on Emerald Falcon. We do have two Mediationforms in play. Edited to add: Ninjaed by Rhino.
  10. [OOC: No word still from Falcon, I take it. Going to get some RP in now that I have been temporarily emancipated from work woes.] The dreams gave him some respite the other night. Atticus did not know why. You did not question why the world was kind. You did not question when it gave you the scent of the earth after a highstorm, when it gave you the soft touch of falling snow. You did not question why it gave you rockbuds that bloomed. You did not question, either, when it gave you blood or death. Sometimes, you paid a price for light. He scratched out the diagrams as he walked. Away from battle. Away from bloodshed. Atticus was no fighter. Or maybe it was a dream. He didn't know. "A storm's coming," he said, most unhelpfully. "Best you go inside now." This dream was less dark. Or maybe it was Atticus who was changing, Atticus who was becoming used to the dark dreams. In this one, he was a scholar in a world where ash fell like rain from the skies.L He played games with his symbols, with his logic. He drew charts that analysed and tried to connect people. There were killers too, in that dream. There was a flash of warmth, the laughing face of a brother, and then the dream slipped through his grasp like smoke. A man drowning in the fountain, another holding him down. Atticus kept walking.
  11. Wise. Anyone hanging on to the workform gems or the spare mediationform gem may want to think of burning them tonight.
  12. Hard to say. Think you're potentially right about protecting Tuatara and it's where I'd look after Heron flips and if the game continues. (If we are at perma lylo, the nice thing is that we just basically assume Heron is Evil for this scenario because if Heron isn't, there's no need to consider the Tuatara question.)
  13. Anonymity never bothered me anyway Hey, if we're at 6/5, every Day is lylo If Falcon is Malibu 2.0 and they kill one of us tonight, we're down to 5/4. Load up on votes, bring your friends It's fun to guess and to pretend Lion's over-worked and self-assured Oh no, I know who's Malibu Hello, hello, hello, lylo Hello, hello, hello, lylo Hello, hello, hello, lylo Hello, hello, hello Anyway, I'm still working on my own reads. Work's been hell lately and while I've been able to squeeze time to actually try to be a helpful Villager, I need to clear some stuff before I can seriously revise my reads to accomodate the Beagle and Mouse data: Villager Villager Lite Null+ Null Lean Elim Strong Elim I'm happy to concede a lot of my current reads rely on: A. Beagle-Falcon actually being Malibu and therefore Evil, and B. Heron also being Evil. So, suppose Falcon is lynched and shown to be Malibu. If I had only one shot and I had to lynch someone and get it absolutely right? Right now, I'd go for Heron. I'm not making the full Heron case here: I've brought up some reasons I think Heron is Evil over the previous days. I know Heron has responded to some of them but they can't really change the fact their responses feel off to me, or disengaged, which is what a Villager would not be feeling D5 near rollover. They could be having a bad game, but when you have to say that to almost twenty different things off about Heron, something's not right anymore. But here's an interesting piece of analysis. Suppose Beagle-Falcon is Malibu. What happens to the D4 voting? It badly, badly implicates Heron, IMO: Thoughts? Comments? God, my TA is coming out again >>
  14. [OOC: Why, though?] [OOC: Still working on my own reads but Vulture claimed to have used the Scholar gem D2 and re-attuned N2 so he's no longer Scholarform. That's why there was so much drama near the end of last Day ]
  15. So, specifically for the case of Mediationform worries. This projection ignores Villagers converting into Elims ( why D: ) because that just messes with things by adding an additional layer of complexity, and in the end, I'm convinced players are gonna player so there's no point in thinking too hard about an additional factor we can't control. We can do a unique PoE for anyone who might have mediationform: OFFICIAL SPLITS: A. 6/5 With 1 Village Mediationform, 0 Elim Mediationform: 7/5 With 0 Village Mediationform, 1 Elim Mediationform: 6/6 With 1 Village Mediationform, 1 Elim Mediationform: 7/6 With 2 Village Mediationform, 0 Elim Mediationform: 8/5 With 0 Village Mediationform, 2 Elim Mediationform: 6/7 B. 7/4 With 1 Village Mediationform, 0 Elim Mediationform: 8/4 With 0 Village Mediationform, 1 Elim Mediationform: 7/5 With 1 Village Mediationform, 1 Elim Mediationform: 8/5 With 2 Village Mediationform, 0 Elim Mediationform: 9/4 With 0 Village Mediationform, 2 Elim Mediationform: 7/6 So there's no way to really say what our Mediationform distribution is. If everyone votes, it'd be good to have certainty. I'm reluctant to press too far into making too many requests of other players, and I don't know how useful requesting Weasel join us in arresting Falcon voting would be, because we're still not sure of Weasel's alignment anyway. But as they pick off more active players, we will need Weasel to actually show up and vote just to maintain dominance, assuming Weasel is Village. And whatever the case, I feel that the Elim team would have to be kayana not to go to activity kills soon. Any kill within the PoE like what happened with Falcon narrows down the PoE. But that being said, if Flamingo is Evil, a hammer could still save Falcon depending on how many voters we have. (I think it's everyone except Falcon and Weasel now.) It just wouldn't be super viable in the B options except for the case where there are two Evil mediationforms. If we're in scenario A, we'd have already lost if both were Evil. If we're in scenario B, I can't see any reason an Elim wouldn't put in an attunement order last Night, at least. Scenario B allows them to reach parity with a hammer if Village Weasel doesn't vote. If it's Elim Weasel then it doesn't matter anyway. On a side-note, players who could not have put in the NK do not matter right now (if it works like the Kohga kill, Beagle had to send in the order anyway), but it might be interesting going forward to tonight, for instance. I think these things should only be voluntary though. No one likes having to play a game like a police state and I'm never comfortable with the extent to which we lean there. Edited to add: I feel like Steel just screamed internally when he saw this Mouse is right though. If we assume we're in A, it's going to be uphill anyway. We bought ourselves another cycle in which to repeat it. 6/5 - 5/4 and so on. If at any point we are wrong, we immediately hit parity and lose unless the Mediationforms are also Village. And that assumes they stay alive, which is not in our control. Not that it's not worth fighting, and Village is certainly obligated to (journey before destination, right?), but we have very little room for error. With that in mind, what's your Elim teams, guys? Suppose we now defeasibly know Beagle/Falcon is Evil. Who are your new top suspects? Who would you lynch next, if we absolutely had to get it right?
  16. Scorpion option wouldn't be Scorpion being taken over by Malibu. It's what I consider a more 'outsider' option because it requires Scorpion to have been Malibu all along, with Weasel going along (as an Elim teammate) to pretend that Scorp is really in mateform (and therefore not Malibu.) This option entails that Beagle really is workform and Village and just kind of died without ever attuning artform. I consider this outsider for several reasons including: -Unlikely for Beagle to not attune artform, having gotten the gem D1 (why go for a gem you don't want? What better things do you have to do with your night action? Why not attune N2? If you wanted workform, why not go for it D1/D2? What player likes being roleless?) -Beagle being Malibu is consistent with his behaviour up to this point. I'd argue more so than Scorp. -Beagle being Malibu neatly explains why the NK didn't go for me, Vulture, you, Rhino, or Flamingo. Beagle is an odd option for a NK because Beagle was still attracting some heat. But simply put, with Heron being confirmed as a D1 warform, and Mouse being suggested as our Scholarform and having denied going for artform, Beagle felt the net closing about him and felt he had to jump to survive. All of us are too chatty / active to be a good match with Beagle, and in Flamingo's case, a dead mediationform stinks to the high heavens. The only realistic options would have been: <Scorp, Weasel, Tuatara, Heron, Falcon.> I think the fact he did not go for Heron can be attributed to a combination of: hard to hide, and possibly, Heron being his teammate. If a warform shows up dead, suspicion automatically accrues to <Heron, Vulture, Rhino>, probably just Heron and Vulture. Vulture is too active, so PoE would immediately net us Heron. Tuatara is a no-no: they talk in PMs, and even if they didn't, a nimbleform showing up dead would immediately lead to calls for Tuatara to prove they were still nimbleform. (Potentially, also a teammate IDK.) To me, the real point of interest is that he went for Falcon over Weasel. Falcon and Weasel are the only two realistic options that would have been an activity match. Given Weasel hasn't been saying much in thread, though Weasel does talk somewhat in PMs (maybe there's an active PM group with Weasel? Anyone know?), it could be hard to impersonate Weasel as well. Possibly Scorp, but even with Scorp, that's a little hard. Going Falcon over Weasel lightly suggests that Weasel is Elim as well. tldr; Scorp!Malibu has no reason to hop. Beagle!Malibu does. Falcon seems to be one of the best chances for him to do that without getting caught -Weasel and Scorp pretending to be in mateform is weird. Weirder things have happened in this game but doing so directly connects them both to the extent that if we lynched Scorp, we'd almost certainly lynch Weasel, giving us a 2-for-1 Elim team connection. Given they tacitly claimed mateform D2, I'm not really sure this makes sense, even if it's not impossible (hence outsider.) Edited to add: Oh, and weirder things have happened but Falcon was very fast to check in D5. In fact, they rushed so much they used a PM of mine that was supposed to be closed. Again, RL happens, we get busy, but I feel this is uncharacteristic enough that I'm not especially uncomfortable about keeping my vote on Falcon until or unless Falcon checks in in their PMs. Edited to add #2: Oh yeah I left Mouse out. I think scholarform is also hard to replicate ( ) and given Mouse's RP, they potentially didn't want to kill a player who might be willing to turn, or who might be using a night action to turn. So no bueno to Mouse as a target. Edited to add #3: In fact, since as Dragonfly pointed out, no votes disappeared off Beagle previously, this requires Beagle to be seriously allergic to attuning both artform (having kept hold of the gem from D1) and workform (gemstone claimed D3, attuned only N4.)
  17. Confirming receipt of the first PM from Tuatara. Thank you, Tuatara, and I'm sorry our consistent failures to find an Elim has brought us to this. Edit: @Mint Heron Simply put, once we confirm Tuatara, the only other options for Malibu are current!Falcon and Scorpion, barring some elaborate lying set-up involving Mouse and Tuatara. Tuatara actually being in nimbleform more or less reduces this probability to über-tinfoil level, since this lie requires Tuatara to be in scholarform. I think it is unlikely for Scorpion to be Malibu, unlikely enough that I'm voting for Falcon. To me, the fact we have an artform gem in the stash is telling. There are no second choices for gems. Players select a gem they want. Why would Beagle go for artform and then never attune to it and get workform instead? Why wouldn't Beagle attune to artform and then later re-attune to workform? Why would Beagle soft warform and scholarform? Why would Beagle finally relent enough to say he was not warform but never claim an actual form? Why would Mouse say they didn't go for artform D1? The simple answer: Beagle was Malibu. Beagle claimed that gem D1, but unlike a regular player, could not use it. Falcon claimed by N3/D4 to have been in a different form. Falcon must've taken workform, and then gotten hijacked by Beagle. If I am mistaken, as I have previously been about Flamingo, all Falcon has to do is to answer a PM that Rhino, Dragonfly, or Vulture is in. That's all. In fact, while they're at it, answer all their fanmail. I'm sure everyone's worried If so, I will immediately retract and go to Scorpion as that's the only valid Malibu option left. Edited to add 2: Attuning doesn't cost anything, just a night action. Did Beagle have anyone he wanted to PM that badly he would forgo using a gem that was his D1 first choice? Remember that workform gems only disappeared D3. If so, that's two Nights Beagle preferred to remain in dullform rather than attune a gem he picked on D1. That really doesn't make sense. Players like having roles, in general. Edited to add 3: See gem tracker here: Edited to add 4: Sorry because I'm apparently disorganised today- Beagle going workform D3 makes so little sense because it requires Beagle to forgo using a gem he wanted D1 when he could've just claimed the workform gem D1 or D2. We could say that workform was not his first choice, perhaps he lost out in the mediationform brawl, but then why not just go mediationform D1? That doesn't jive. Simple answer: Beagle is Malibu. Well, was. Poor Falcon.
  18. Note: This could be wrong. If this is wrong, @Emerald Falcon, you'll want to check in with Rhino, Vulture, or Dragonfly in one of your existing PMs, please. This is to avoid a costly mislynch >> D1 gem distributions: Here is what I suspect: Steel has clarified that if Malibu kills a target, the gemstones that go back to the appropriate stash are Malibu's. So if Malibu takes over a player, then any Village gems Malibu has goes back to the Village stash, while any Elim gems Malibu has goes back to the Elim stash. If Beagle is Malibu, then Malibu claimed an artform gem D1. Beagle then proceeded to take over Falcon, who was in workform. Hence the write-up telling us both that a workform rebel died and that an artform gem is in the Village stash. Commentary/Thoughts: Remember we started with the question of which players could be Malibu. The first hypothesis was that Malibu was among those who did not get gems D1. Of those, four players have died and been confirmed as Villagers. Of the three remaining: <Lion, Flamingo, Tuatara> I am demonstrably in artform. Flamingo demonstrated last Day with two votes on Weasel that they are in mediationform. This leaves Tuatara, who has claimed to be in nimbleform. Dragonfly has claimed receiving one Day PM from Tuatara. Can those who can confirm receiving a second Day PM from Tuatara please come forward? That being said, for the moment, suppose we have weak evidence that Tuatara is in nimbleform. We know the warforms can't be Malibu. Moreover, we have evidence that Dragonfly, Heron, and Rhino all acquired warform D1. OG!Falcon can't be Malibu - if so, Penguin would've said something. Same for Weasel, as Hyena would've said something. Malibu can't take another form. So there are two questions we need to juggle. 1. What did Malibu do D1? -Malibu did not get a gem. If so, this makes Malibu Tuatara. -Malibu got an artform gem. If so, that makes Malibu Beagle. Other possibilities require Malibu to have been Mouse who got the artform gem D1 and then pretended to be a Scholar, requiring someone else on the team (Tuatara?) to be the actual Scholar, and then Malibu passed the artform gem to Beagle. Thing is, if Malibu is Mouse, then we can trust the write-up which says Beagle is Village. So this is a contradictory line of thought, especially since Beagle should have mentioned acquiring a random gem, and kills come first. -Malibu got a mateform gem. If so, that makes Malibu Scorpion. It would also make Weasel an Elim. 2. Who is in our Malibu pool? <Mouse, Heron, Beagle>, with outsider possibilities being <Tuatara, Scorpion, and Vulture> Warform is impossible to fake. Scholarform is not, but for Vulture to be Malibu almost necessarily requires both Scholarform gems to have gone to Elims, and a lot of role lying. Not impossible, but distinctly...odd . I give that low probability. Vulture hasn't really been behaving too much like an Elim, either. Heron just ruled themselves out last Day, due to the warform reveal. We have soft reason to believe Tuatara is nimbleform. This needs to be confirmed. Scorp is the last option. Not much comment there, except that it would make Weasel an Elim too. If Beagle is Malibu, then Beagle claimed an artform gem D1, and this explains why they've been so careful to soft warform and scholarform but refuse to roleclaim. Because being asked to confirm their role would inevitably lead to trouble. This would also be consistent with Mouse claiming they didn't go for the Scholarform gem D1. [Edit: artform, sorry, my brain.] I'm inclined to believe Mouse's Scholarform claim. Little reason to lie about that, and Malibu Mouse has little reason to build up to the RP and then the copious venting in thread and PM. Lower probability to this option. The issue with anyone else being Malibu is it requires us to believe Beagle got an artform gem D1, and just never used it. Just. Never. Attuned it. And that's just odd - Beagle could easily switch forms. Why didn't he? Most players go for a gem they want, after all. Conspiracy Theories: Suppose that Beagle really isn't Malibu. Then there are only three options for Malibu, because the D1 gemstone numbers don't lie, even if players do: A. Mouse Mouselibu has a hidden scholar on the team (e.g. Tuatara), and Mouse is simply reading off what the scholar said. Thing is, Tuatara hasn't met the Scholarform requirements in a while, so IDK. Be nice to get confirmation - e.g. if Tuatara can use their nimbleform double action today. B. Tuatara Possible, and verifiable by nimbleform confirmation. C. Scorpion Requires Weasel is lying for Scorpion, minimally. But as pointed out, it's weird to get a gem and not attune it. Even for Beagle. They could swap to a gem they liked later, but... I'm going to say there are essentially two things we need at this point in time. We're at lylo, or very close to it, but I'm just gonna say we should say we're at lylo. A. We really, really need @Emerald Falcon to check in in a PM. This is the only thing that will convince me to remove my vote from you. B. Secondarily, we really need @Cream Tuatara (sorry!) to re-confirm being in nimbleform. To this end, I'd request: please create two PMs this Turn. You can put anyone in them you like, but PM #1 should contain Dragonfly. PM #2 should contain me. We really do not want to mislynch today, so I apologise for being a bit insistent about this. Also: Funny you say that. Guess who doesn't trust his reads anymore What are reads what is analysis I don't do that drek >>
  19. Be honest, Tuatara was calling for Mouse's head in our PM so I just wanted to remind people that we shouldn't actually do this and what Mouse does is not in our control but it's counterproductive either way so yeaaaah >> Edited to add: We have an additional artform gem. Beagle took our artform gem D1. Clarifying something with Steel right now. Edit #2: Players who have not checked in in PMs (please let me know if they've said something): - @Amethyst Scorpion - @Emerald Falcon @Onyx Flamingo and @Mint Heron have also not checked in, but we know you can't be Taken. All the same, if anyone wants to do a welfare check, it'll be welcome
  20. Right, let's look at the stakes. Scenario A: Scenario B: In general, I think Flamingo is either Evil or the Elims are saving up for a Flamingo kill and/or hoping we mislynch Flamingo. We can't afford to get things wrong, but we already knew that anyway. I think we can be fairly certain that Mouse is still Village in most scenarios, and a Mouse lynch is counterproductive so I wouldn't advise that. Unless someone else is our scholarform, e.g. Mouse claiming on behalf of an Elim teammate (only candidate left is Tuatara), I feel like this is more or less our situation. We do need to ascertain if Malibu hopped. I think Malibu has no reason to, since that would only endanger them and risk giving us a free lynch, but I always believe in doing our homework anyway.
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