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Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
That's the part I don't get. I can understand why being protected by a Lurcher would be more likely if Albatross is elim- Alb claimed Thug, after all. But I don't see why the elim team would pick Albatross to protect unless Alb was who they thought was most likely to be attacked, which I don't really see being true for any elim team that's logically possible. So Thug is automatically more likely of an explanation for their survival. And at that point you can't claim that elims are more likely to be Thugs, because they're not. I think your logic is flawed, and the length at which you push that they are much more likely to be elim is weird to me. By this reasoning you would vote for anyone that survived an attack, because they survived an attack. And then add in the fact that you apparently had a suspicion of Albatross all along that only materialized itself now, and it's enough for a vote from me. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I didn't say that they should shoot, just that I thought most of the time they will anyway Which is probably the smarter option. I'm not ruling it out entirely but if there is one I will be very, very suprised. And with Gorilla's post I'm comfortable putting my vote there. Their reasoning makes little sense. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
This is something I'm aware of, yeah. I can understand how v!Alb (who has not been purposefully trying to be new) would see these and just chuckle and let it happen, rather than call it out- it's what v!me would do in that situation. But it's also what e!me would do, so it's NAI, but I don't think it's elim indicative. I think there's definitely a difference between completely new and experienced, and that's where I'd spot Albatross. I can see that I have my view on the situation and you have yours, and it's clear that telling each other our view back and forth isn't changing the other person's mind so I say we just end this discussion here Praise the Ja! Edit: I'm assuming the Coinshot is a villager because I don't think there's an elim one, full stop If there was two I could see that as possible evidence for an elim one, since I don't think an e!Coinshot exists without a v!Coinshot. I do think most of the time, a v!Coinshot will shoot every night- you're right that there are reasons to not, but it's also the coveted vig role and it'd be a waste to let it sit there. Why do I think a v!CS would target Alb? Because they read Alb as elim, since it's clear multiple people do for reasons other than their survival. I don't think that my village read of them was super mutual, and I don't remember seeing a lot of reads on Alb as a whole, so it's very possible someone was reading them as elim and just never mentioned it. Why do I think they ignored the counterwagons? Possibly because they figured they'd be the candidates for the exe and instead chose to hit someone lower-profile, or maybe because they don't like to be told who to shoot. I dunno, it wasn't me I do discount it very easily but that's just a product of my playstyle, which no one can confirm. I don't know anything, I just like my strong opinions backed up by little context. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I personally don't think their appearance of being new was intentional. Can you point me to where they claimed to be a new player? If that happened I definitely missed it. I'm mostly in agreement that they're not new but I don't agree that they purposefully were faking newness. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Their Cosmetic Role is 'Past Lives', so I don't think this has the relevance you think it does. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Lol. No. Elims don't have PMs with each other so there'd be nothing to confuse there, try again. Yeah. That's why they're in my 'Kill If You Want To (But I Won't Help)' instead of 'Do Not Kill'. I don't want to get stuck in a village tunnel though so I do plan on ISOing Alb later. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
So it is. Hadn't read those yet. That's definitely fair, and I don't want people to get stuck on the part of my village read from last cycle about them being 'new'. That only added to the already existing behavioral read I was getting, tone and reasoning wise. I'm with Beagle in believing their Thug claim regardless of alignment; them having being Lurched is super random whether they were Lurched by a villager or an elim. I can't imagine that Alb, on the elim team, was the elim they thought was most likely to be attacked. We'd have to be doing exceptionally bad for that to be the case. And I can't really see anyone Lurching v!Alb that isn't me, and I didn't do it, so... They could be a Lurcher themselves, though. I maintain my village read on Albatross, though perhaps it's a bit less than it was before. I understand the odd profile view of their play so far but my mind has a hard time seeing it as anything but genuine. I don't think the elims have a Coinshot unless the village does as well. That doesn't seem right to me. With only one kill, I'm assuming that Coinshot is a villager. A Thug does make sense for the elim team, but a Thug definitely makes sense for the village. Here's who I'm fine with killing today- note that this isn't identical to my reads list because it isn't a reads list (though it is close). Do Not Kill Today: Meerkat, Hyena, Beagle, Scorpion, Axolotl, Elephant Kill If You Want To (But I Won't Help): Albatross, Dingo, Chameleon, Vulture, Falcon, Penguin, Mouse Kill If You Want To (And I Might Help): Rhinoceros/Toucan/Dragonfly, Octopus, Zebra, Flamingo, Ostrich I Will Help: Gorilla, Iguana, Heron I wish there was a middle tier in between the 'Kill If You Want To's for just Penguin but I'm choosing to do without Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
xD my theory was short lived... I'm stupid and don't know what this means- you got a Mistborn claim? Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Four? Huh -Anyways, I'm not upset with either of those flips (or lack of flip) because Lion was one of the few players who'd posted but was still in my Nulls so it's nice to not have to think about that anymore, and Alb is my biggest trust and remains so since I think they were the elim kill and Lion was the Coinshot. That was quite the runon sentence, you're welcome. I was going to say xD Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Glad to see we're on the same page, then :P. Iguana. But I'd vote Gorilla if it were Day. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Octopus definitely is not the person with the most RP or even someone I'd say has memorable RP (I don't remember it, at least, that isn't a stab at your writing, Octopus) so that makes the reasoning there especially weird to me. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Don't, I never said them. For what it's worth, we haven't yet finished one cycle Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Albatross has been that high for me for a while. See this post from D1, which includes multiple takes and explanations I don't think come from a Spiked. This in particular: When under the lens of assuming Albatross is a newer player (a fair and shared assumption, I believe) this is undeniably pure. There's no reason for e!Albatross to post this in the way it's posted. Same to this. It's something that reads as extremely legitimate to me. Also, when they voted you, they admit to having nothing to say about it which I think is TWTBAW. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Attempting to make a new reads list, may I be guided by the Ja! I've found in the past my reads tend to not like to move if I try to modify an existing list as opposed to starting from scratch, so in the interest of being as accurate to how I feel as possible I'm starting completely over. I, hopefully, fixed any errors in my last list by creating two more tiers. Hopefully that doesn't just make things more confusing. Italics indicate someone who hasn't posted. No order within tiers. Village: Albatross, Meerkat Slight Village: Scorpion, Hyena, Chameleon, Vulture Null+: Mouse, Penguin, Falcon, Flamingo, Axolotl, Dingo Null: Dragonfly, Lion, Rhinoceros, Elephant, Octopus, Toucan Null-: Ostrich, Heron, Beagle Slight Elim: Zebra, Iguana Elim: Gorilla I probably could give a rationale for anyone's placement, but if I'm being honest I c/pd the player list and went down going 'you're here, you're here, you're here'. Obviously it was slower and more complicated than that but it's not like I ISO'd everybody; don't expect me to have. Note that Gorilla and Iguana likely aren't e/e since Gorilla would have voted Croc and not Iguana for self pres were that the case. It's possible they are, and Gorilla didn't due to the vote manip the elims had in place, but Occam's Razor blah blah idk Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
:P. Alright maybe not but do remember I'm someone who read every single bit of Crocodile's posting as village So to me it's strange how you saw literally none of that Also this is the second AG we killed Croc D1. Hmm. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
No problem, I just thought it was funny. Like Vulture said in their latest post, I found the iso quite tunnelly as I'm sure you could have found something village in their posts seeing as they all came from a villager. I don't think it's [the iso] necessarily elim. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Full disclosure I haven't really read the thread so far but I do plan to. Disappointed in the cycle result; two out of three candidates were low on my trust list and the third was my highest trust, and who dies? Lol. Some validation for my gut I suppose, rest in peace Crocodile. Ok Mr massive-iso-condemning-croc Tonight I plan to reread the last two pages of the day, the night, and make some PMs :D. We'll see how that all goes. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Did this just get to 4/4/4 xD I read a book called that once Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Su felt relieved. This man seemed much more put-together than that asleep fellow; thank the Ja he wasn't Su's only companion! "Ja is great, Ja is good." he intoned. It had been far too long since he had worshipped in good company. (Dyring is Axolotl, I believe- not Croc) Also wow EoD is going to be nuts isn't it Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Su perked up. Another Jaist? He had thought there were only two in all of Tyrian Falls! "Praise the Ja!" he echoed, enthusiastically. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Su would be very happy to tell you all about the Ja, I can assure you Best to click here (coppermind link) before he finds out you're wondering. I won't tell him, I promise. Also, good to see you back! Getting a gut positive tone from your post, so that's nice. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Elaborate, if you would. And I'd be open to Zebra and potentially Iguana as well. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
You can easily look in your inbox and find out yourself, I'm rather interested to find out Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
...You never PMd me either :P. Praise the Ja! -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Coral Swan replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
@Emerald Falcon (in the spoiler is my commentary on their post, spoiled because it's long for how unrelated it kind of is to everyone else) Not too happy about being voted on for the reasons other than me but I understand and suppose I just have to live with it. Hopefully not die with it :P. Praise the Ja!
