Salmon Meerkat

Well played everyone. I'm glad to have been able to participant in this game. Even though I've been on the SE a while, this was a relatively new experience for me to be alive so long, I usually am killed before lylo point, or in a game where one side completely destroys the other side. I quite enjoyed being a lone elim, and for those of you that read the elim doc, I hope you enjoy my monologue there near the end. A few things I would like to put here real quick (And I'll put more later, if I run out of time now) @Magenta Albatross I am very impressed by your guessing and analysis. You were definitely a huge asset to the village team. It was fun to play with you, and it was interesting to see how long it took before we finally decided to take you out. @Saffron Iguana I enjoyed the time we were alone in the elim doc. I still think we could have pulled off a win if we had chosen to keep you alive, but I'm glad it all worked out. Thanks for having me do that as it gave me a great chance to be a lone elim, which was a first for me, so definitely fun. @Indigo Weasel Your posts during the last few cycles caused me the greatest amount of stress, because I saw you as relatively cleared, but at the same time, you were the least cleared of the remaining villagers, so I had to leave you alive. I'm glad it worked out in my favor. I'm sorry that you were slightly less active right at the end, because that is one thing that really helped me take the victory. @Violet Axolotl Your end game was a very tough situation to be in. Overall, I think you did well under the pressure. Hindsight is 2020 and I'm pretty sure now you feel it was obvious that I was the last elim. I'm glad I fooled you in the moment, and I hope you don't beat yourself up too much about it. I dedicated about 2 cycles to slowly, silently pocketing you, as I knew I would need your vote at the end. It almost didn't work, but I'm glad it did. Very well played. I'll have more thanks and mentions down the road for specific players. But Thank you to the GMs @Fifth Scholar and @Elbereth for running this game. I really enjoyed this game style. There were multiple times when I questioned how well balanced it was, but as you stated in the Dead doc, it was experimental, and I think it turned out fairly well. If I were to change it the only thing I would do is somehow make it so not all scans are alignment scans. Maybe have a like 2/3 chance of being alignment scan, 1/3 chance of being action/role scan. I don't think it's a necessary change, but that's the one change I can think of. Reading through the dead doc(mainly the last part. I skimmed until I found my first mention then started reading more i depth from that point on. ) I saw a lot of people who thought that the Kangaroo lynch situation was a bad situation. I completely agree. I mean I'm surprised people at least subconsciously bought my argument I had made the cycle before. Then also regarding the thing about seeing that Weasel wasn't on during that last night cycle. I noticed too, but just a bit too late. If you read my monologue during d8, you'll see the stress in my tone in the text, I think. I'm glad axolotl didn't think to check that during the last cycle, but even if he had, it probably would still have been 50/50 chance of the elims anyway. It was definitely very fun to play this game. I would love to see a rerun at some point in the future. More thoughts to probably come later.

Yes, I did. I assumed you would have use yours on flamingo, so I used mine on weasel. Assuming you used yours, this cycle should be completely free of manipulations to votes, because they would all be protected by the lightweaving.

Something tells me the GMs are losing ideas for the write-ups. Though this one was very unique and elegant. So as long as there's no hidden mechanic in play, I think that confirms the final elim is Weasel. So I'll place my vote there. My main reason for doing this is because last cycle, they claimed bondsmith, and then it appears failed to use it. This would have proved that they did not submit the kill, however, because they didn't use the action associated, it makes it seem more than likely to me that they submitted the kill.

huh. Well. I guess it's not over then. So going through everyone's claimed roles, I noticed Weasel claimed Bondsmith, but I don't see any manipulation with the vote. Is there a reason you didn't manipulate the vote weasel? That's the only thought I have as of right now. I'll try to add more thoughts a bit later.

Hmm. Last cycle I was the one to start the lynch on Kangaroo, but I later marked that as tunneling in my own book. I'm not so certain how I feel about the kangaroo lynch, as I feel it is somewhat more likely the last elim is between weasel and axolotl I think that my suspicion on weasel has been flip-flopping the entire game. But i cant get over the part where weasel killed for Albatross. It almost seemed they were... more than willing? Then the alignment flip of scorpions village as well. It's probably tunneling again, but it seems a perfect way to have a scapegoat for another villagers death. I kinda want to trust axolotl for the same reasons I want to trust kangaroo. Their participation in the lynch of Meerkat. It just seems too late in the game for an elim to attempt a bus, especially on a very active elim. Actually, as I write this, I think no do find it more likely that kangaroo is elim than axolotl. So my suspicions would go weasel, then kangaroo, then axolotl, then flamingo. Edit: From weasel (not normal formatting because mobile) I guess I dont really. It just seemed the reason you wanted to lightweave always to help them survive the night, which is exactly what lightweaving wouldn't do. It's still a good idea because wasting a lightweave on anyone else could hide the elim from any skybreakers, and it would also ensure a safe, unmanipulatable, village vote that we could count on next cycle.

What I'm saying is that Lightweaver won't help him survive the night. It doesn't protect anyone from kills. It only protects from skybreaking and vote manipulation roles.

Why should we use lightweaver on flamingo? It only protects from vote manip roles and skybreaker. What we need is a windrunner. Unfortunately, I'm also a lightweaver.

I guess you're right. I mean, it wouldn't really prove that I dont submit a kill tonight. I guess my thought was that someone last turn said that they would be mad if they found out I was lying. My thought was to prove to them my claim last cycle for the sake of proving my honesty. I mean I feel like that post of mine wasnt a justifiable post to make me your biggest suspicion, and I feel like you're tunneling on me a bit. I mean last cycle, there were multiple other people who had a votes, including my vote on Kangaroo, which looking back on it, seemed a bit convoluted reasoning, and probably a bit of my own tunneling against him. I mean I started the lynch on iguana for crying out loud, because their posts and reasoning was flawed. No one else seemed to have noticed it until I pointed it out. I dont think anyone else would have noticed on time, but because of me, we got an elim.

So I'm an elsecaller, as I mentioned last turn, so I won't be putting in an action, as my ability is only passive. . But I have no way to prove that unless someone dustbrings me, so that would be a good way to validate my action, if we have any dustbringers, go ahead and hit me (But please coordinate with others so I don't get multiple kills against me, and end up dying, because that would be sad) So yeah, that would be a good way to account for my action (Or lack thereof) while also accounting for a dustbringer action, without killing anyone.

Heres a vote count. Meerkat (1): flamingo Flamingo (2): iguana, Albatross Iguana (2): Meerkat, axolotl

I just want to point out that two people claimed to have dusted scorpion. Weasels claim is backed by Albatross, whi supposedly told him to place the kill, but no corroboration for Iguana's claim. Seeing that it is likely that kangaroo actually submitted the message, that means they didnt submit the kill. That leaves us with Iguana, Albatross, Flamingo, or Toucan. Seeing that albatross has a very big chance of being village, And flamingo and Toucan both appeared to have not been online over the night period. I was not able to verify this, but I'd be willing to believe whoever claimed this. kangaroo That leaves, iguana whose action hasn't been corroborated. Until I hear more from iguana as to if they can corroborate their action, I'm going to place my vote there.

sigh... Again we go through this. So I couldn't have submitted the kill last cycle. I already claimed that I had willshaped a vote off of me. I would have voted for either crocodile or scorpion had they both not dies these last cycles, so that just goes to show that I've been wrong again Weasel seemed pretty willing to go along with that attack for some odd reason, but I actually don't find that very suspicious. I don't think it's the wisest to throw a vote on me, and I'll explain why now. So first of all, I'm an elsecaller this cycle, so killing me won't kill me for at least until the night turn. That will delay information being released. Second, as I've already explained, I couldn't have been the one to submit the kill, so, if there's only one elim left, it can't be me. My vote is going on Kangaroo this cycle. While I do have some agreement with their analysis, and also Iguana placed the first vote on me as well, so I'm now leaning more elim on iguana than before. But back to kangaroo, Something about playing a game with almost real content, then posting one message at a critical time in the game, then going back to being able to keep up with the RP doesn't feel right with me. If either them or a teammate could have posted that as if it was them. Then they are now able to continue hiding behind their RP mask, as they will no longer feel the necessity to respond in a comprehensible way. I don't like that strategy.

I get that you're not infallible. My point was that you were more likely to have more information than Flamingo, or Crocodile, for example. This, in my head, made your thoughts weigh heavier on my mind than their thoughts. But yeah, I realize that there are times that we all are going to not have enough information. My read on axolotl is entirely my own, but since albatross, a trusted villager trusts them, that makes it so that I'm also slightly more willing to trust them.

...Yeah, for the first question, toucan's alignment would reveal more info about what happened from the first cycle. Plus, I think they've had just the right amount of content, not a super small amount, where there is almost nothing to analyze, but not so much where going through their content is likely to have dozens of false leads and lead in circles and on goose chases. For the second question, my read doesn't depend on Albatross' read, but it is influenced by it, as he is a known villager, therefore making me more likely to believe him. Part of the reason behind this is the fact that, despite most people not supporting the idea, people are more willing to confide in a known villager, therefore turning them into a ...Mayor?... type person. They know more because more people tell them more. Yeah, I willshaped Heron's vote. When I placed the action I wasn't really expecting to survive. On the contrary, I was pleasantly surprised that I was still alive when I woke up this morning.

Prelude: So this post has been moved from multiple devices, so the formating has gone a bit wonky. Oh wow, I hadn't realized I was the subject of much discussion. That's interesting. Let's see what I can do to dispel these concerns. So I find it most interesting that as of yesterday, most people, as far as I know, had a neutral to village read on me, then because one person had an elim read on me, now I'm one of the largest candidates for a lynch. Yeah, I have been bad at not completing promises this game. I'll post a quick analysis of different players coming up. So I actually legitimately thought that Octopus was village. It wasn't a hard-clear, thus the reason I was a bit hedgey. Other than that I know I haven't been the most active, but I don't know if that's a fair reason to lynch me. Is there any other argument as to why I see elim? I'd love to be able to address it. Player List2. Amethyst Scorpion: Their analyses have been really good. Something about the name makes me automatically think elim, but despite that presupposed prejudice, I think I'd go slight village on Scorpion.6. Emerald Falcon: Is very interesting, because I can't decide whether they're definitely village, or definitely elim. I think I have a slight elim read on them but not extremely strong. 7. Indigo Weasel: I haven't seen a counter-claim for their *either protect or scan or both* which makes the claim more likely. This makes me think they're very village, but I do wish I had more to analyze (just like many people think about me. 9. Magenta Albatross: I'm pretty sure we all trust Albatross, for very obvious reasons. 10. Mauve Crocodile: Albatross's point is rather interesting, but I don't know if I really agree with it. It seems like a possibility, but I wouldn't go so hard of an elim like Magenta Albatross felt. I still have an overall village vibe, but I'd be willing to put them anywhere between soft village to soft elim. 11. Mint Heron: relatively inactive, like me. seems like they're choosing to just follow and hope to lie below the radar. I want to say Elim, but I don't know if I can. I'd probably go neutral for now. 12. Onyx Flamingo: Like others, I wish we had more posts from them. a quick view of their post history makes me lean slightly village though 17. Saffron Iguana: They have a lot of content, so it's hard to do a good analysis on it all. They're one of the few that have so much content. I keep falling on the fact that that they did vote to lynch an elim on D1. Other than that, about half the cycles I lean Elim, and the other half I lean Village. It could be good to lynch them as some point to get their flip18. Sage Kangaroo: I really enjoy the RP, but it makes me suspicious of them. Since there has been almost no analysis from them despite this being C5, it makes me suspicious. I'd go soft to medium elim on them. But also, I don't think it's fair to lynch them for that. 19. Salmon Meerkat: I don't really like providing analysis of myself because It's obviously going to be biased based on my alignment, and I'll always find stuff to support a villager argument. 21. Sunburst Toucan: Their alignment could be very telling. For that reason, I would like to vote for Toucan. I don't have a whole lot of data on them, which is scary, especially this far in to the game. Typically by D5, we are within just a few cycles of the end of the game. 24. Violet Axolotl: I don't like how some of their posts sound. I also don't like how Albatross, who we all are fairly certain is a villager seems to hedge on whether they are elim or village in their post earlier this cycle, then gave them the rating of Hard Village. The reason I don't like that though is because it makes me want to lean more village on them than I would normally do. I would have to go soft village instead of soft elim, though I would like more clarification from Albatross as to why you hedged for your analysis, then went so Hard on the village when you actually rated. Anyway, my vote for now is on Toucan, though I may move to falcon for survival purposes, and I would also support a kangaroo, iguana, or a Crocodile lynch. Anyway, Vote count: Meerkat (3): Falcon, Scorpion, Heron Falcon (1): Iguana Toucan (1): Meerkat

Apologies for the inactivity. I have the thread open while doing work today, so when I have a spare minute, I'll be trying to read, and contribute with my thoughts. It may be at least a few hours though before you see more.

Alright, I've deciphered the easier edgedancer messages. ----- tp:/w.otb.o/ac?=H5JRA and hts/wwyuuecmwthvogSYH0 seem like two incomplete url codes, however, combined, spell out this Url. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 two people must have been in cahoots to be able to send this link in, and may have used it as a form to prove each others claims. ---- OPEN YOUR MIND THE INFINITE AWAITS - .... .. ... / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / .. ... / .- -. / . .-.. .. -- ---... / -.-- --- ..- Has two random links, and also a Morse code bit. I'm the spirit of not using the internet for coding (I kinda did) I only looked up a morse code chart and translated this myself, and I got This peron is an elim. You? I double checked with a morse translator, and got "this person is an elim. You?, so it looks like I just missed a letter, and one of the edgedancers is am elim. ----- Then there's two that have some sort of letter code. I'll try to decipher those later to see if we have any useful messages. I'll also do a brief analysis of a few players before placing my vote.

I agree with most of your analysis, except I've had a skybreaker role already, and all the info I got was that the player was a village worldhopper. So I didn't get to know the specific role he had that cycle.

Did anyone else start playing the music to accompany this in their head?

Well, first off, let's vote Rhino for obvious reasons. I skimmed D2, and it looks like the only vote on Rhino was by Amber, unless I missed one. My original thought was that that vote could have been a vote to try to bring up a new candidate in Hope's it would take off better than the currsnt lynch candidate, which at the time was Albatross. But seeing as Albatross is the one leading the discussion, it makes it less likely that Amber is Elim, based on the grounds that they were trying to save a teammate with their neck on the chopping block. ------- I'm somewhat uoset that my only active PM contact, gorilla, got killed, especially as I had scanned him N1 and confirmed him as villager. And I hadn't even told anyone else of his alignment scan, because I didnt want this to happen. We also had a fairly good conversation going, so I'm upset that I'll have to try to start all that over again. @Sunburst Toucan, I'll probably take you up on your offer to PM you. Please dont think of yourself as my rebound from Gorilla. You mean more to me than that. Plus you might have some good information that'll help my position in the ghostbloods.

Yes. Happy new year officially in my time. Were down to just a few timezones left. Basically Pacific, Alaskan, and Hawaiian, and some other islands are left.

Hi! Here's my analysis post I promised to get to. First of all, I'll be doing what someone else did, and ignoring any posts that come in after I start this post. (probably. Sometimes I can't help myself.) Fifth Scholar's post about the death being edited in to the writeup is the last post as of now. -------------- I'll start with the lynch. While I do understand the last minute switches to Opal to ensure a lynch unaffected by vote manips, It's something I don't like the looks of. The last two to have done so were @Magenta Albatross and @Amber Vulture Magenta makes sense from a survival perspective. However, an arguement I've often heard, but don't necessarily agree with is that sometimes it's better to just be killed, to help the village learn more stuff quicker. Like I said, though I personally don't agree with it, because often games can be much less fun if you are out, and no longer able to play, especially when it's still relatively early in the game. Neutral read. Amber's argument is just for the interest of not wanting to lynch albatross. Their previous vote on Rhino came relatively lat in the cycle too (Not way late, and it could have just been due to IRL reasons, but it's still interesting to note. Could have been a shot to find an alternate lynch candidate to save one of Lion or albatross. Slight elim read. Stronger if Lion or Albatross turns out to be elim. The vote prior to those votes was by @Scarlet Octopus, but that appears to have been about 3 hours before the cycle ended, which is a little early for a last minute type vote swing. I have found Octopus's posts very well thought out, and ring like someone genuinely trying to solve the game. I have generally agreed with most things they've said, but not all. Additionally there have been a few things that confused me like this quote from his last post on D2 I'm not entirely certain if you wanted to say villager in the first location where eliminator is placed, or the second. Speaking of @Saffron Iguana you seem to be the topic of most people's discussion. My personal opinion is that it is more likely you are village, because I wouldn't have voted for an teammate on D1, who would most likely have been lynched, if I were an Elim. It isn't a hard clear, because I've been wrong before, but for now, I'll give you a soft village read. @Emerald Falcon has also contributed a quite a bit. I really enjoy their RP as well as their game feedback. I generally agree with their logic behind their opinion on iguana. I still want to look more into Plum Rhinoceros, as they had votes at one point last cycle, Toucan, as they were a topic of discussion, and Opal Lion as they survived a lynch, without warning the rest of us that was going to happen, which I find suspicious for a villager to do, but I'll do so at a later point, as I'm running out of time at my current location.

I apologize for my inactivity. I've had an unexpected amount of stuff occurring recently. Nothing bad, just busy. I promise I'll get up some basic analysis by tomorrow so everyone an start to get reads on me and I can get reads on all of you. I also do have one or 2 PMs that I've been slightly more active in, so if you want more of my opinions. You could also try reaching out to me in PM. I hate to leave people on read. That's true for me both IRL and In SE.

Seeing as how everyone that has died was a worldhopper, and I also was able to successfully scan someone last night, who was also a worldhopper, and I'm also a worldhopper, I'm willing to make an educated guess that most, if not all of us are worldhoppers. Now that would he something to tell the Ghostbloods. Most Urithiruans are actually worldhoppers. That would also help explain why the dustbringer who hit the elim just went for a lucky guess so early. From what I've seen, typically, dustbringer/coinshot type roles are underused near the beginning of the game, because without additional knowledge, its risky to simply attack. But also, I've seen from past experience that typically if someone has a rotating role, like the worldhopper, they're more likely to use their attack. Whoever it was that placed that attack order can probably reveal themselves, as they likely have a new role, so they can be cleared as village, and are most likely no longer a threat to the elims. Unless they are a permanent dustbringer. Maybe a good way to reveal the role would be to a trusted villager in a PM. If you dont currently have one, I do have one that I've been able to scan and learn is a villager. Ultimately, whoever you are, you know the consequences of revealing yourself better than the rest of us, so please consider who you're already in PMs with, and who you trust most, and who you are suspicious of before you just go about revealing. Edit: I'll get around to looking into Ivorys posts later on to see if I can find anything that looks like bussing, pocketing or distancing. Ed2t:corrected spelling of Ivory in edit 1.

It had been determined that the sympathizer was also a worldhopper. If the public knew, surely so did the ghostbloods. But it gave cadamum a chance to pursue a new lead. Maybe he could determine how many worldhoppers there actually were in Urithiru. Surely that would be enough for the ghostbloods to give him a higher rank above recruit. ----- Sorry I didnt get around to voting. The cycle ends when I'm fast asleep, so I dont have a lot of knowledge about what happened at the end there. also, I'm at a family gathering for most of today, I'll take time to read what's going on, but probably not respond until later or maybe even tomorrow.