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    [ignore this: someone posted with the wrong account]
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    I'm unsure if this contact is an actual player or a GM NPC. Either way, would anyone like to publicize useful things they learned from Penguin now that we know how they have flipped? I never had the opportunity to speak to them.
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    *looks up from tinkering* I am not sure if I should interpret this as a claim to be Honor or a confirmation of the appropriate way to address judges, but either way, I'll note the British spelling of the word. :biggereyesandahmmmMMMm:
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    And Tuatara and Elephant left the planet last turn, right? Or are they still there?
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    Flamingo publicly requested PMs with Mouse, Rhino, and Dragonfly. I'd suggest the three of you remain tight lipped about if you are Preservation or not. As a reminder to the Elims, they could have also gotten the information from non-Prudence PMs.
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    *meanwhile, elsewhere in the Cosmere* Hey, does anyone remember that person from the Shadesmar? Naruto Dash or something? Fun guy, I wonder whatever happened to them. Anyway, Gecko has survived for far too long. The general mood seems to be that some people may use their items to act on some other suspicions tonight, so we may get more than one elim kill this cycle.
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    They would have told us if someone was attacked and survived, I think. But surely the elims targeted someone for night kill? @Elims, did you try to kill someone? It appears that my favourite player, that absolute mane attraction Opal Lion now has a monopoly on PM creation outside of those with items. I for one welcome our new Lion overlord. (Excellent post, by the way, I love the way you keep it light and funny with those smiley faces.)
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    Who else is there right now? Why are you there?
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    Prudence, I'd like PMs with everyone please. And a new spanner to help with my inventing! If you're planning to be stingey about it, I'll settle for just ones with Opal Lion, Amber Vulture, Fuchsia Ostrich, and Violet Axolotl. Edit: just saw your FYI. I respect that decision (and am sure the mods thank you too).
  10. Saffron Iguana
    After further Shadesmar-enabled discussion, Hyena has convinced me of their rationale for their D1 activity. I therefore switch my vote to the other obvious candidate for expulsion, that cold-blooded Gecko. Looking at those two names, I wish I could invent a way to help red-green colorblind people play this game... Hyena Gecko
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    I think I need my head checked! I just realized I forgot about that vacation I took yesterday to Braize, where all votes count double. Don't ask me why I went, I'm not sure myself. But I do remember seeing that scoundrel Mauve Crocodile there! They'd claimed that in public RP, so this isn't news, but it does confirm they were being honest and that was the source of the mystery added vote. Hyena has been simultaneously implying they were pocketed by Croc and that their PM discussion with them was brief. I don't buy their explanation. I can't get over the fact that they strongly defended someone on Day One who flipped Elim. Perhaps you could tell us more specifically who you thought Croc was, what they said, and how a PM came to be, Heyena? Oh I wish I could invent a lie detector to sort this all out...
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    *explosion noises* Ouch. What hit me? That machine I was working on must have given me a right knock on the head. That's gonna hurt in the morning! I sure hope I don't experience any short term brain damage such as temporary changes to my personality or the sensation of voices in my head. (Hi, GMs!) Hello, everyone! I was trying to invent a way to speed read through these walls of text, but it looks like I'll have to do it the old fashioned way. I hope to post some thoughts tomorrow.
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    Tada! He stabs himself and starts coughing miserably, *cough* it *cough* should *cough* have *cough* opposite *cough* for *cough* you *cough* *cough*. He hand it to you.
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    I might be able to make one for you! I made an unsickifyer one time.
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    Vatorr always had a penchant for the dramatic, and when the stores had stopped sellin', or couldn't meet his demands, he made his own creations. Like Turbo Tyranny, the exploding crown, or Czar Star, it flew incredibly high with the help of coinshots. He looked around, he saw nothing interesting, so he started to tinker.
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    It was a pretty good attempt, as you actually did have me worried for a bit there. The thing that clued me in on it probably being a trick was the fact that you'd put it in a PM, instead of in the thread, where you'd definitely be sharing it if you really knew my alignment .
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    It went both ways. Remember, my own lynch came down to a dice-roll as well, and if it had flipped the other way, I had a dustbringer attack which could have decided the game there already. And there's been a cycle in which nearly all elims where edgedancers.
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    I don't know if it'll make you feel better, but meerkat was also an elsecaller, so they'd have survived even if the coin had flipped the other way.
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    I think the doc is up now, but to summarize, we wanted a kill that suggested that the zebra wagon was pure, so we had to kill someone on there. We considered opening with a wgg, but that would not have been the best play (and in hindsight could very well have lost us the game), so it was you or pearl, and people seemed to trust pearl less than they did you. Anyway, I've got a number of thoughts on this game. I've already shared a bunch in the dead doc, but let me copy my own post-mortem analysis here for those not wanting to read through the entire thing. Now, in addition to that I think I have but one comment on the role distribution (apart from that it was pretty fun to play), and that is that, imho, it made villagers rolling the skybreaker role significantly more dangerous for the elims than the role would be in a more standard game. Some people brought up sharing scans over the course of the game, and that was a really good idea, and I'm happy I managed to discourage it every time. I must have mentioned at least once that it would be possible to solve the game in the later stages by sharing all the scans, and I fully believe that could have been possible. The reason skybreaker becomes better is that someone doesn't have to be as careful with sharing the results of their role as a dedicated skybreaker would be. Individuals cans are less trustworthy, but as people die due to elim attacks it should more quickly become clear which scans are genuine. Someone sharing their one scan also puts the elims in a bind, as they can't kill that person without confirming their scan. So, If I'd run a role distribution like this again, all I'd do is drop the alignment scan role from the possibilities. Dustbringers also played a significant role, and a lot of elims died to that ability, but I don't think it has as big of a game ending potential as the skybreaker could have had if the village had shared reads a lot more, as its far more of a double edged sword (we lost a number of elims to dustbringers, but a lot of villagers died to that ability as well). I'd like to thank my team, and in particular congratulate meerkat on keeping their head in those last cycles, as well as apologize to Zebra for bussing them C1. Lastly (for now, at least), I'd like to give a shout-out to @Emerald Falcon and @Magenta Albatross. Both of you played a really good game, and neither of you died a cycle too late.
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    I can't. The logic is sound. I don't play much in PM's, having only contacted kangaroo this cycle myself, and all others where initiated by others, and I hadn't shared my actions in any of them. I've already claimed what I did, but as I discussed a couple of cycles back with crocodile, that doesn't actually prove anything. I could point to my part in the lynch of Zebra, but a number of people seem to think I'd be willing to bus there, so that's hardly a defense either. So yeah, this is a long-winded way of saying that the only person to whom I could prove that I didn't submit the kill is myself. And if all of you decide to lynch me for that, so be it, no hard feelings, I know I'd seriously consider lynching myself if I didn't know better (hell, I just pushed kangaroo for the same logic). Just promise me to keep up the activity, because it's going to be 4:2 next cycle, but with the inactivity going on, it might be worse than that for the village, and I'd hate it if this game ended up being an elim win due to inactivity. All that having been said, some quick notes for this lynch, if people decide to believe me, or the coming lynches if people don't. I can confirm Axolotl's observation that neither flamingo nor Toucan where online at all during the last night cycle. This means that the elim team has to be two-person at least, and hast to be one of axolotl or meerkat + one of flamingo or toucan. I think that of these 4, flamingo is the most likely to be evil, and Toucan is the least likely to be evil, simply because they've not been around to much at all, and the action claim needed some coordination to work out. And I'm getting too tired to be very coherent now. So let me repeat it again, in case I'm not around to do so after this cycle: be active! Inactivity will benefit the elims, not the village, and I think things are getting close enough that some coordination can allow the village to solve the game in short order. Don't make my mistake, talk to weasel and albatross so that things aren't done twice and that visible actions can reliably be claimed.
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    Okay, so not kangaroo then. In that case, one of meerkat or axolotl claimed an action by toucan or flamingo. Between Toucan and flamingo, flamingo has been a bit more active and involved, so is more likely to have been able to participate in such a scheme. Between meerkat and axolotl, I think meerkat is a bit more likely to be an elim, but ti could go either way. Because Meerkat claimed to be an elsecaller, I´m voting on flamingo.
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    I'm with axolotl on this one, this changes stuff. I agree that this makes kangaroo look pretty bad. Assuming weasel's claim is to be believed, and If I understand albatross' comment correctly, they coordinated that in advance(and I hadn't shared my intentions, so elim!weasel couldn't have known the kill would happen anyway), so I think that claim is pretty solid. The only other possibility I see is that either elim!meerkat or elim!axolotl claimed the action of elim!toucan or elim!flamingo as their own, and then submitted the elim kill, but that requires a more convoluted setup than it being kangaroo. So meerkat, kangaroo.
  23. Saffron Iguana
    Ah well, that's on me. I'm really not a pm player but at this point I really should be coordinating more with those that are likely cleared. So if I don't PM you sometime soon, please give me a kick to stop being lazy
  24. Saffron Iguana
    In the interest of getting people talking, maybe the info that I dusted Scorpion helps. I'm about to be somewhat busy, travelling across half the country, so this is likely going to be my last post of substance this cycle, and I might not psot at all, or only in the last hour of the cycle, no, with the new end time I should still be able to post on sunday. Anyway, a quick run down for who Might be the remaining elim(s). If the elim kill can be submitted in parallel with other actions, but puppeting isn't allowed, the last elim(s) are among Axolotl and meerkat. If the elim kill can't be submitted in parallel with other actions, but puppeting of inactives is allowed, the one to submit the kill is one of Onyx flamingo and sunburst toucan (or one off them is an elim team-mate tof axolotl or meerkat that submitted the action that they claimed). It could be weasel as well, but as I mentioned before, I'm inclined to trust them unless everything points their way. If the elim kill can't be submitted in parallel with other actions, and puppeting of inactives isn't allowed then it's got to be weasel that submitted the kill, as I don't see albatross being an elim after all he did, and everyone else has an action to their name. So, with this in mind, I need to put a vote down before I disappear for a while. Both the 'in parallel 'assumption and the 'puppet assumption' alone suggests that one of meerkat and/or axolotl is an elim, so I think voting there might be best. That's not an easy choice though. Meerkat ahs talked more, but that means there's also a few more questionable things, including what axolotl indicated here. Axolotl on the other hand has just talked very little and hasn't been involved in a bunch of lynches that allows for more information to be gained on them. I think Meerkat just barely comes out ahead in terms of suspicion(edit: for the reasons I mentioned last cycle, plus their hedging last cycle). However, @Violet Axolotl, since you cancelled scorpion's vote, you where online after it was cast, but you never placed a vote of your own last cycle. Why was that? Actually, did anyone get a role-claim for last cycle from falcon? An alternate scenario is that Axolotl didn't submit a bondsmith action at all, and instead claimed falcon's action, though that'd have been very risky, or would have required certain knowledge, so I don't think it's too likely. Actually, this is down-right tinfoil-levels of paranoia, but now I want to know anyway.
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    I'm going to be a bit shorter on time this cycle. However, to quickly respond to the points by sage kangaroo that relate to my actions(and it is nice to see something from them now): 1. I checked back, and I discussed this with them C2, when it appeared there where a lot of worldhoppers (3 where dead, and I was one as well), so we exchanged roles to further confirm it, and discussed whether it'd be worth a public discussion on the possibility. 2. But then Rhino voted on me, so wouldn't by that logic Toucan be the more suspicious one? 3A. I did not 'just' swing my vote at the last second. I announced my intention as early as I could, but at the earliest I only wake up an hour before turnover. The actual swing only happened last second because I wanted an actual lynch to take off, rather than a tie motivated by RP. edit: There are 8 people left, being, weasel, albatross, flamingo, me, kangaroo, meerkat, toucan and axolotl. Off these, Albatross is pretty hard-cleared for taking down Rhino, and weasel is somewhat cleared for their claimed actions (but as I already discussed when going over croc, that doesn't prove anything, and the amount of casualties means that having no counterclaims also is no guarantee). Then, there's @Sunburst Toucan who has been mostly inactive, @Onyx Flamingo who also hasn't really been active and @Sage Kangaroo who actually seems to be following along, but who unfortunately just hasn't shared that many reads. Actually, before I finish this particular train of thought, I kinda want to know two things. @Elbereth, @Fifth Scholar, could an elim submit the kill in addition to using any role powers they might have? And if there's more than one elim left, but one of them is inactive, would you allow the other one (or ones, but I really hope there aren't 3 or more elims left) to 'puppet' their actions? Anyway, apart form the inactives and very likely cleareds, there's meerkat and axolotl. I'm going to leave any further analysis until I know the answers to my questions above, so as not to run with any wrong assumptions.
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