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Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Funny how sometimes all someone has to do is post the bare minimum to get some at least mild Village reads. All my village reads, tiers are sorted. The bottom tier isn't necessarily less of a village read, but it's a read based on the same thing: reacting to thread pressure. Zebra, despite getting a little pressure did nothing but keep RPing and popping in whenever he wanted- not really seeming to care what thread felt. Gorilla was the same way kind of, perhaps a little more defensive. Just kept RPing and doing his own thing. Penguin Meerkat Coral Heron Fuschia Violet Pearl Hyena Zebra Gorilla -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
What would you like me to explain about it? I don't know why you think I should explain anything around it, as that would just help anyone figure out who it was. Voting me here is especially strange. I'm conflicted on Iguana mostly because I feel it should be easier to kill him then it's seeming the Village wants. Either way, I support the train on flamingo-as the one to originally bring the point up-enough to feel fine about where I'm sitting. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Heron earns a place in my village reads now. While the Elim Equity is still there between Heron and Octopus, I really like this post. It could definitely be a defence of a teammate, but that's going to be put in the back and not brought out until necessary. I like the flamingo take, mostly because it was something I mentioned before - I think during the night cycle. Subject to change upon octopus being an Elim potentially, and also on flamingo being Village, but they're up there now. As I looked over the votes, I noticed something a little different than I originally thought about Coral's votes. This makes me lean more village on Coral, to be frank. There's nothing inherently village about voting people voting you, but at the same time....there is. Perhaps there's something in not mentioning the fact that it's because they're voting on you- maybe there's something in not realizing it yourself. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I almost think an Elim would be more compliant with working together or even volunteering thoughts, but at the end of the day I can't justify voting off of Iguana at least for the time being. So much of me wants to think he's a villager but I just can't. If anyone would like to try and change my mind, I'm all ears. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Out of curiosity, why do you put me in the Elim pile, where I am among those like Ivory, Zebra, Turquoise, and Azure? I think there's a stark difference there that there must be significant reasoning for me to end up there. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Would you like to assign a read onto me based on it? -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Blue texting that is explicitly against the rules. If I were to do my favourite activity- Setup speculation- I'd think about the relevance that the ties in this game have on setup. Fortunately, I have remembered that setup speculation is not my favourite activity, nor is it near the top. I also have already recieved a PM from someone claiming the coin/shot, and I have a pretty solid village read on them. So, Moving on. Penguin's most recent readlist pushes me further into thinking they're village. Yes, I realize they have me in their Village reads but that's not it. it's the fact that my read is overexplained while the others are not. They range from lengthy explanations to "gut" to a microread of a specific post. I would expect more from an elim in terms of substance in this case. If they're going to explain thoroughly one read, I'd think that they'd want to keep that up in fear of letting out who their teammates are or worries of being pushed over it. I specifically like the point about my Mauve push as well as the microread on Violet. Everything about Coral makes me want to suspect them, the most recent reason being this: My question is what about Meerkat and Hyena makes you not want to kill that differentiates them from Vulture? All three are producing a high quantity of analysis, and that alone is not my reason for townreading them, which I don't quite do, but for wanting to not kill all three of them this turn. So what differentiates them for you? This list is basically saying, in my mind, that anyone besides those top six people are ~fine votes to have and you are going to be fine if people vote there. This is an insanely large list. the reason I gave my coin/shot list is because it's not a group of people voting on who the coinshot kills. it's one person killing, and hopefully being right. With 18 names to vote across that you are supposedly "fine" with seeing people vote on, it feels like you are trying to produce a thread that is uncoordinated. Perhaps I think everyone is more manipulative than they actually are, me being how I am as an Elim. By the end of the day we should end with a pool of no more than 8 I believe, assuming the Elim team is 6. That's still a decent chunk of the playerlist and very wide. Perhaps smaller if you think Amber or Hyena are Elims, because I still don't want to kill them this early regardless. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
For supposedly assuming magenta is new, they're doing a lot of interesting things: PMing lots of people apparently, Nesting quotes, providing votecounts. Things surrounding the survival aren't feeling right to me, but I don't see how on an elim team they would choose to protect magenta. if that is the case, then something must be interesting about that team composition. Unless I missed it last night, Magenta, do you have any conclusions from the D1 kill? My reads stay mostly the same: Penguin/Salmon/Coral are my top village reads. Today I'd want to kill probably Iguana>Pearl>[oxblood]. I was hoping the coinshot would help resolve within iguana/pearl, or at least resolve an inactive. Alas. we have yet to hear from Rhino and Toucan still. Of the other people who haven't talked, I feel best about Elephant, and I will feel good about Mint if Pearl turns out to be an Elim. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
This furthers my newest tunnel. Coral -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Someone better fess up to killing lion I'm 1/2 so far, feeling good Edit: don't fess up to killing lion Unless you're an Elim, in which case. Go right ahead. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
It felt much less like pushback, and just more... "I'm not interested in this now, let's look at this shiny new rock over there." Which is a big difference in terms of gamestate reads. I'm honored to have a distinctive voice apparently, to pearl. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I'm disliking the "I got to know them in PMs" reads. I've never been one to like secret goings on, it's much to easy for Elims to either manipulate through there or for Elims to protect a buddy like that. It makes people basically not held accountable for their own reads. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yes That was indeed the point lol Who would you kill tonight if you were the vig, pray tell? -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Amber already commented on the similarity in my post, but yeah this alongside the lurcher felt like off points. I didn't realize octopus was being suspected for RP? That seems an odd reason for them seeing as they've given content (questionable) albeit in a different font and whatnot. I have my own problems with octopus though, so. I do think that pearl chameleon and iguana need to be resolved one way or another. I'd love to be able for us to find them and be able to move on, but with especially pearl being a big part of D1 I don't see that happening without a miracle -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
This is probably a Villager. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
an Anonymouse note was left at my door telling me my colors were not understandable Yellow is just there for pearl, i think their wagon was an important one throughout the day so I just highlighted all the votes that put them above or at three votes. Red is the same, but for the EoD wagon. Blue is just simply the first vote and what was unvoted to vote saffron at EoD, by Pearl. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
What do you then think of the people on the train then? Onyx was the one who brought Mauve up to 3, which was something i forgot to mention in my last post- - Onyx's pop in Onyx didn't really speak at all, with three posts last day. The first was a vote on Violet, and then strangely the moment Mint joins the vote on violet they pop back in thread, switch vote, and then leave again. It's pretty awkward timing, imo. and then just to disappear again. the only other post was a small bit of RP i believe after the second vote. And if the croc train was Elim-motivated, it also doesn't neccessarily reflect on the counterwagons as much as the composition of the wagon, so I find it interesting that you bring up the counterwagons and not the members voting on croc. All they have to do is push one of a v/v/v wagon over and suddenly those other two people take up our discussion for the next two days while the Elims lie back and relax. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
coolio. Specific things that stand out to me - The seeming fluidity of Penguin's vote. Penguin votes Violet axolotl, a poke seemingly, but has no hesitation in immediately switching to Hyena. This happens almost /directly/ after, with Penguin's first vote at post 42, Hyena's first post at 44, and then Penguin changing his vote at 45. I find his movements onto Pearl and then back onto Hyena those more likely coming from a villager as well. - Swan being a follower. Where penguin is fluid, Swan's votes in general felt very rigid to me, but I don't see anything new from him really at all. he poke votes dingo, but after joining Meerkat on Amber. 46 is where Meerkat votes Amber, and then Swan votes alongside at 49. He does then set himself up to switch votes-mentioning an incoming readslist to collect his thoughts and vote...which comes at post 77, an hour after 74, where Meerkat retracts. I don't even think there's a good way to phrase this, but just look at the votes, and you notice he seems to be following Meerkat's votes, but on a delay. Perhaps what this really means is that they're both village. - Votes on Pearl seem to be... well. everyone who put Pearl up to 3 votes-Mauve, Meerkat, Penguin. Mauve was village, and I have village reads on both Meerkat and peguin, however flimsy they may be. Coral was the one to bump up pearl to 4 votes, but I'm still conflicted on them. if you look through all the Pearl voters, there isn't any of them that I strongly distrust. Coral isn't a solid village read, but I'm not incredibly suspicious of them right now. Side note: Gorilla's reasoning for Swan was strange. Specifically for me the part where he said " I don’t really see why everyone’s jumping on Hyena; none of their posts at all stood out to me", Simply because I don't think you could pass the large colorful readslist. I might be interpreting this wrong, so benefit of the doubt. No reason for including the pearl votes other than that was a main point of D1. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
What about pearl? As far as I remember, the vote didn't swing to you guys until later in the day. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I would be voting you for this sentence right now if it was a day phase. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yes? is there a problem? I made the ISO hoping to find something villagery, and then made a PM with him that never got answered (too close to deadline) but all I could find is places where it felt that he was trying to hint at being a power role. The goal of not killing you would just be to further confusion. In the end, every person the Elims kill is someone we don't have to solve. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
It was the whole cycle though. I never felt any pushback on anything besides zebra. no one ever fully formed other wagons, just...tied everything. Nothing passed Iguana until the very end. I mentioned them as coinshot targets for the same reason you did. I think Iguana might be village at this point, but that doesn't mean they're not going to me a mislynch down the line. Iguana was the direct counterwagon, and chameleon is closely tied with Iguana. Iguana and Chameleon are in a position where if I was an Elim they are never getting NKd. So, while I wouldn't shoot them as a first choice, resolving the CWs and the first train early in the day isn't a bad thing to do, on principle. -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Noticing that the only person i remotely trust on the wagon was iguana and that's a pretty conditional -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
This is probably a villager. ~ Fine Coinshot kills by principle Saffron Iguana Turquoise Gorilla Pearl Chameleon ~ Not bad but not ideal Azure Mouse Sunburst Toucan Sapphire Elephant Plum Rhinoceros Onyx Flamingo Opal Lion Oxblood Beagle Ivory Dragonfly Quartz Zebra ~ Wouldn't ever shoot this early Amber Vulture Charcoal Hyena Chartreuse Penguin Coral Swan Salmon Meerkat ~ Idc do as you will this is what's left over Melon Dingo Scarlet Octopus Violet Axolotl Amethyst Scorpion Fuchsia Ostrich Magenta Albatross Mint Heron -
Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings
Emerald Falcon replied to Elbereth's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I don't feel good about those being on swan. I don't feel good about it being so quiet. I don't feel good about it being practically a 5 way tie and yet....nothing? there's been little pushback.
