Master_Moridin

You've previously said that "Investure is intended to be the building blocks of the cosmere" and that it "transcends the different realms". Would this then mean that Investiture is like a primordial element or prima materia, in that all matter, cognitive aspects, and spiritual aspects are composed of, derived from, or transformed from Investiture in some manner?

I was just wondering because I found a WoB where he says that drabs have no innate investiture, and the implications of having no innate investiture and the only mental effects being in emotions (according to the Coppermind) interested me. Thus, wondering if he ever mentioned the Cognitive.

Does anyone know if Brandon's said anything about the Cognitive aspect of a Drab, such as whether they still have one or if it's been affected or not?

Aren't Aons much closer to the metals used in Allomancy though? Not a driving directive, but just something that shapes and filters power into a new form.

It's probably not spherical in Shadesmar. To me it almost seems like Shadesmar (in terms of how it's spatially arranged) is a projection of the Physical realm. Everything sorta just...gets compressed onto a 2d plane, and the only real variations in vertical depth are a result of the varying thickness of the glass sphere layer.

On Roshar everyone except Shin have epicanthic folds, and even then Brandon's said they wouldn't really look "white". Iriali are described as having gold hair and skin (Though I don't think the skin is described as being the same kinda metallic gold the hair is. Probably something like how we'd describe skin as "gold") And Brandon has also said Alethi would to us look most like someone who's Hawaiian-Asian. The Makabaki, Azish, and (by WoB) Alethi all have darker skin tones, with Azish being said to have a deep brown. No one on Roshar really looks like anyone that's "European".

I think the concept isn't confusing, just that Surgebinding is different in that it's the only system we've seen so far where your average magic user doesn't need a focus to help them use their powers. And that disconnect is what's confusing for some people. Roshar is weird.

What if then what he meant in that original WoB about Seons and Roshar was that being on Roshar makes it easier for Seons to go into the Physical? And that that would allow for specific things?

Stormlight and Investiture aren't different though. At least not in that manner. Stormlight is just a kind of Investiture. Honestly think the explosion of light was just for dramatic effect in that particular scene.

It seems to be out already. I bought my copy of the paperback a couple weeks ago and it has the changes in it.

Oh okay. I remembered him talking about how the error was canonized but I didn't know the rest. Rioters and Smoothers could probably find decent work going around with politicians to manipulate the emotions of who they're speaking to. Similarly, Smokers to prevent politicians from being manipulated during important meetings.

Here's the quote Would be interesting if each Shard has a set of Purposes and that's what they contribute to the number creation.

Feruchemical Brass being in the Cognitive quadrant always led me to think it was storing one's perception of warmth. Though if that is how it works then I wonder how it could be useful...perhaps it'd help in situations similar to those where we temporarily suppress our feeling of pain, like situations where you only need to temporarily feel cold or feel warm to help you ignore the reality of the situation? My personal inability to come up with something that seems legitimately useful does make me suspect though that despite being Cognitive it still affects actual physical warmth...hmm. In which case woo fire immunity! It'd probably also help with things like blacksmithing and anything else that involves lots of heat.

I believe they technically aren't the "same storyline" (if I'm somehow wrong on that please someone correct me), but they are on the same planet.

It's from an interview Edit: Apparently this quote was already added to the OP but oh well here it is anyways.

Oh okay. I'm sorry if there has been any trouble because of this. Good to have an answer though.

I think I can fix it back around pretty quick like so it shouldn't be a problem. Should the large list of metals be removed to match how the Allomancy page just links to the individual metal pages? Edit: Although I am finding I don't remember how tables work... Edit 2: And the post this was in response to disappeared so...

When I was referring to "seeing the ship as still" I was generally referring to Relativity specifically, in that the frame of reference for a thing is determined by its movement in comparison to another's movement, and whether it feels a force acting on it. In deep space there might not be enough interaction going on for the medium to even have a functional frame of reference, and if it did, it'd be in relation to whatever the greatest force acting on it is, as feeling a force is the only way to know you're moving. Relativity is weird and I'm beginning to be certain that is these kinds of cases Brandon's just gonna throw it out the window, in which case woo we have FTL (theoretically). Otherwise I'm not sure how one'd get around this. Okay nvm I seem to have thought myself back into the actual answer (trying to remember relativity after a while is hard). Since the only way for an object to know if it's moving or not is if it's experiencing acceleration I guess then the interstellar medium (so long as it's not anywhere it can experience a significant force acting on it) would think of itself as still and anything else that had a different velocity as moving. So yeah, in that case your number 2 would hold. Weird hacky physics never sits right with me. Also now that I think about it the WoBs on Cognitive Realm worldhopping insinuates that whatever there is in empty space considers itself a roughly singular cohesive object (as you can walk across it) so that in a simpler way might explain how a bubble could potentially intersect and get a sense of still from it. Long story short I am in agreement until we're inevitably proven wrong.

Well crap. That interview hadn't come up for me in the database so I thought I'd hit upon something... On a different note awesome we finally know how anchoring's done. I'd guess objects with a bigger cognitive aspect would probably get prioritized for frame of reference decision. The whole, bubble gets jarred when it intersects something new, is really neat. When you say interstellar medium here, are you referring to the cold thin plasma that fills space? Cause in deep space I'm not quite sure that'd work well as the medium would be looking for things around it for its frame of reference, which would be the ship, and then you get into stupid edge case where if no force is acting on the medium then it could either choose to view the ship as still or itself. (Frame of reference is weird and it gives me headaches) There might/probably be some weird stuff going on the Cosmere to let something like that work, but I still think we're missing something other than mechallomancy. Course I might have my relativity completely wrong. Been a while since I lasted studied it.

Something I've been wondering is what happens when steelpushes or ironpulls are involved with Bendalloy bubbles. For example, say someone's Pushing a coin and a bubble is suddenly put up with the coin still inside. Does the coin continue to move at the same speed as before, considered a part of the coin-push-pusher system, or does it speed up suddenly? In a similar vein, let's say you have a Slider that is being Pushed on, but stationary. If they put up a bubble that contains the Coinshot, who is also stationary, what happens if: The Slider becomes unstationary and starts moving, The Coinshot becomes unstationary and starts moving, Or both become unstationary and start moving? I have a suspicion that being able to hold a Bendalloy bubble in place with Pushes and Pulls might be part of the key to FTL, at least based on the model in OP. Maybe put up a bubble near the front of the ship (but including it), hold it in place with pushes in pulls, and then set the ship to move so that the bubble winds up behind the ship with the ship still half-inside, so that the ship keeps moving at the compressed speed? Or if that complication is unnecessary and the ship simply being in the bubble but no considered part of the anchor is all that matters to get the relatively increased speed, simply suspend the anchor in the "middle" of the ship? Either way the way directed Allomancy reacts in general to a target entering a bubble is something that's given me thought. (Maybe I should throw something about that onto the question list at some point...)

(I'm not really sure if this is how this is supposed to be done (been gone for...a few years, also lack of rules thread) so I apologize profusely if so) The page currently is organized into Physical, Cognitive, and Spiritual (also God) according to Brandon's response to this question (link) as discussed in the Feruchemy page's talk page. Back in 2013 I had grouped the metals into Physical, Cognitive, Spiritual, and Hybrid as given in the Table of Feruchemical Metals poster which was released in 2012. My question is, for sake of future reference and understanding, was there something between when I edited the page and when it was edited into its current form about the table being incorrect (the interview database wouldn't return any results at all for me when I searched for Feruchemy so I couldn't check there), or is there a system of precedence I am currently not, and would like to be, informed of in regards to products vs WoB? (Once again intensely sorry if this is not where this type of question/inquiry is supposed to go.)

Got myself a chunk of questions: Are Ideals and Connections the building blocks of spiritual aspects, or is there something else? Are Ideals in the Spiritual Realm like elementary particles in that there is the category "Ideal of Fire" but multiple perfect instances of it (the same way there are multiple electrons but they're all identical), or is there only one singular Ideal? Are the qualia (i.e. color, sound/tone, etc) that make up sensory experience Spiritual in nature? (Related to above) Are the sensory experiences of humans (or similar sentient beings) a combination of un/subconsciously perceiving the spiritual aspect of an object in combination with sense-based information input (detecting light with eyes, etc)? Could one describe an object's spiritual aspect as "the nature of the thing" and its physical aspect "the presentation/manifestation of the thing"

According to WoB you can steal a Shardblade using Hemalurgy (or at least that it's theoretically possible), which works by ripping off bits of spiritweb, so it at the very least heavily insinuates the bond is spiritual in nature. On the bonds having distance limits it could just be different types of spiritual connections react differently based on distance. What I currently hypothesize at least. I really don't have much else to say on the subject (mainly cause I can't think of much else at the moment).

The whole color thing is weird on a couple levels, especially since manipulating imagery counts as a fundamental force? I've been operating on the theory that color and other qualia are Spiritual things and that human perception is part sensory information intake and perceiving the Spiritual aspects and connections of a thing on a un/subconscious level, and that overlap is what Brandon means when he says the Cognitive is about perceptions of ideals. Long story short maybe removing the 'color' from a thing is just removing the Spiritual aspect that allows/causes people to perceive it as that particular color qualia, and so wouldn't affect it physically??

I can't find anything that directly confirms or references it, but it seems to be general consensus that the Nahel bond is spiritual in nature due to connections being a thing of the Spiritual Realm, and according to WoB location doesn't really have much meaning in the Spiritual. So at the least Kaladin being far away most likely wouldn't have any impact on his ability to grant Stormlight usage to his squires.