Wyndle88

So activating all the Oathgates could awaken it.

Also I am new to 17th Shard. I am not at all knowledgeable about the flowchart of Surges or how they get connected.

In Oathbringer So while trying to escape from Shadesmar, Shallan is told by the Oathgate Guardian spren that they can't let her in as orders received from "Parent" identified as Honor.....also Stormfather refers to Sibling as "Them".... Urithiru is connected to all these other places via Oathgate(Oaths associated with Honor) which in turn has these huge Guardian Sprens....so my deduction is the whole system of Oathgates is the "Sibling" with the head spren living in Urithiru as the Spren of the tower. And that Spren is slumbering. 1. The name "Sibling" At first I thought Sibling meant one among 3 super Spren of Roshar. Stormfather, Nightwatcher and their sibling. But Sibling is by itself one among others. Sibling is not the sibling of Nightwatcher and Stormfather....it is a sibling of Urithiru and Oathgates. 2. Stormfather calling Sibling as "them" Which suggests a group. A collection of spren. In Oathbringer, during battle of Thaylen City, we see Odium giving specific instructions to secure the Oathgate. If that's not possible then to destroy it. He also says as long as the gemstones of the Oathgate are intact they can be rebuilt in another location. This statement made by Odium suggests that the Guardian spren of the Oathgate is contained in these special gemstones. There are 10 Oathgates connected to Urithiru and there is a Spren for the tower as well. So this whole collection of gemstone Sprens are the Sibling hence can be called as Them. 3. Honor being "Parent" Honor died. He did something to weaken and his remaining power went to Stormfather thus awakening him. I think after several Desolations, humans were losing very badly even with Radiants. So he created Urithiru for them. In Oathbringer Shallan and Dalinar notices the way the crem seemed to has distinct features as strata found in rocks exposed to storms on shattered plains or something along those lines....so Urithiru was created by Honor for the Radiants so they could strategize. Each ten orders of the Knight Radiants were given different set of Oathgate gemstones which Honor created. Connecting all ten to Urithiru which contains Sibling the superspren maybe at base of Tower not yet discovered. Also Oaths are a thing of Honor. This is the act that maybe weakened Honor. At present the Sibling is "Slumbering"...if above deduction is right then Sibling is also a collection of gemstones. So to activate it, Stormlight. Highstorm doesn't reach Urithiru or it is very weak above the clouds....so to activate Sibling, Dalinar will have to open Honor's Perpendicularity on top of the tower thereby activating all the gemstones in the tower and the super gemstone containing Sibling awakening the whole tower. Does this sound credible to you guys?

Omg.... didn't connect with Mistborn spoilers....yeah Odium wouldn't do that....Also when Dalinar and Odium was discussing the deal...only confirmed part is Odium will agree to appoint a champion. The part about Dalinar being Odium champion was rejected by Dalinar and without a proper agreement with correct specific words with intent has not been agreed between Dalinar and Odium. So I'm not very convinced Dalinar as Odium champion.

If a Radiant is killed the respective spren becomes weak and loses Sentience right? It is mentioned in Oathbringer that Honor changed ...before Recreance...if Szeth is a new type of Skybreaker, Dalinar is the champion of the new Honor. Previous Bondsmiths couldn't do what he did as Unity by creating Honor's Perpendicularity(HP) in Thaylen City. So maybe Odium will find another Champion who with His current knowledge will have to go against HP weilding Dalinar. So if the champion induces a perpendicularity will that weaken Odium in Braize?

Sorry Double post by mistake. First time posting. So If Odium appoints a champion and gets defeated does that make Odium weak enough for Cultivation to attack ?

Was Braize Damnation prior Odium being concentrated there? Was Braize Damnation prior Odium being concentrated there?

I thought they literally picked up 16 pieces of Adonalsium and got in turn invested by the intent of the particular Shard post Asension.

I thought if he came physically to Roshar, Cultivation would end him.

I don't know if this had been mentioned before. In chapter 1 of WoTK the 9 remaining Heralds sacrificed Taln and the Oathpact. It has been 4500 years since. At present all heralds are mad. Even if one or more thinks one is sane (Ishar) they are all insane. I can't remember who says the actions of their betrayal that didn't go the way they thought. So maybe the Oathpact was still active and they are going mad because Taln was getting tortured in Damnation. Honorblades have pieces of soul of Honor. So maybe Heralds are connected to each other through spiritual realm via their respective Honorblades. Szeth practiced all ten surges using the 8 honorblades the Shin have. I'm not sure how he got this right among the Shin people. Maybe he is Royalty / winner of competition to see who gets trained ( he has nostalgia regarding Skybreaker tests) ....so he trains with Honorblades on all ten surges but with association started connecting to Spiritual realm thus started to hear voices of people he killed with the blades.... What do u guys think?

I don't know if this has been discussed before. This is my first post. I just read Oathbringer 2nd time. First was when it released. So I'm not up to date on several factors. I have only read stormlight, mistborn and warbreaker. I don't know about other shards other than from what I looked up online which is plenty. So here goes: We know that Honor wants Odium to appoint a champion. Thus making it a war between champions so to speak. So imagine if Odium appoints a champion. And this person in turn created Odium's perpendicularity on Roshar. In that moment when Odium is literally concentrated on Roshar and his shard is unguarded maybe it's possible for Hoid to reach Braize and destroy the shard of Odium.