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  1. A third race is featured in the sample chapters of Liar of Partinel, but it isn't at all canon, nor to be discussed in this section of the board. As per WoB's there are two known races of Yolen as you have noted and a third unknown race that may or may not be described in the Liar of Partinel original.
  2. I just think that the cognitive is the realm of thoughts and ideas, and those aren't static or immutable. When we make any kind of decision we do so with a whole host of options, usually several of which being options we can live with - in other words, valid options. I think cognitive illumination is like nudging a person towards an option that is in line with the goals of the surgebinder. It's not brainwashing, it would still need to be a choice the person would accept, it's just fine tuning that choice. To me that's a cognitive thing, not a spiritual thing. They are moving to an option that is beneficial to the surgebinder, not to an option that is more consistent with their spiritual idea of "greater good". Spiritual illumination may indeed involve helping a person to see the truth of themselves, but I don't think they are necessarily the same thing from what we've seen. For one thing, it seems very unlikely that an entire group of people would have the same truth of themselves to be shown that is also to the benefit of Shallan.
  3. "Philosophers will argue whether the glass is half full or half empty. This is of course irrelevant. The only relevant matter is who stole the other half of the fluid from the glass, and where they may be located for summary execution." - Unknown Skybreaker
  4. I think a large part is that things had clearly not been as they previously imagined them for much of the book. The big bad turned up and looked a lot like this: The evil voidbringers turned out to be this: Makes you begin to question everything you know, and when another "bad guy" turns up and begins fighting on your side, you just figure it's something else you got wrong.
  5. Roshar is about 0.9 cosmere standard, which is based on Yolen being 1.0 cosmere standard, and Scadrial is described as the closest approximation of earth, also at exactly 1.0 cosmere standard, so I think it's reasonable to assume Roshar is 0.9 earths in size.
  6. I suspect you're right. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/124-drogakrolowpl-interview/#e1807
  7. This might help you visualise the Shin properly. You're welcome .
  8. I suspect that cognitive illumination is to delusion as illusion is to hallucination. In other words, the power to influence or manipulate someones thoughts. I think we see this in her ability to influence people into acts that are seemingly against their nature - the redemption of her guardsmen for instance.
  9. And again, we have you misrepresenting what I said by applying it plural to a pattern of behaviour instead of the singular instance of behaviour that was described. I have clarified this on multiple occasions, and yet every time I open one of your comments in this thread you are doing it again. I don't know what else you have experienced here, but I can assure you, I never held any malice against you for your arguments. We can't have a discussion if everyone agrees on everything. I do take issue with you repeatedly misrepresenting what I said though - that's dishonest.
  10. *Sends, from Nalthis an order for a shipment of Aluminium from Scadrial,* The perks of being a worldhopper .
  11. Yeah, I wouldn't get too hung up on the actual form of Aether, though it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume it is a substance of some kind which is physically bonded to a human enabling their access to investiture, as that seems the general concept behind Aethers.
  12. It's hard to say, we don't have much background on them, but if I recall correctly they were pretty antisocial and there could be something in that. As to the bondsmith ideology, that could be something to do with uniting spren and men in their case. I'm not sure we will actually see a whole lot of explanation of the ways new radiants are broken or embody the ideals outside the POV characters. The POV characters show us how radiants are created, but the others will likely just have it implied unless they are very prominent characters.
  13. I think "Cut enemies" would be an improvement. Cut makes it clear we aren't annihilating pieces of the universe, and enemies gives a frame of reference that doesn't exist with evil.
  14. I can think of at least one shard who would be very receptive to Shallan as an agent.
  15. Well, as was pointed out by @Willow above, his defence of the prostitute didn't aid his family at all, and was motivated by a sense of right and wrong.
  16. I just had a thought. Maybe unmade doesn't really refer to the corruption of another shards spren at all. Spren are the cognitive manifestation of an idea or concept. Syl is honor, pattern is truth, wyndle is growth for example. Odium is the void, he has the power to steal peoples passions. What if the spren were manifested in response to the thoughts of people (made) and then Odium stole their passion for the concept they embody (unmade)? The entity exists, but only has memories of what it is meant to be. It acts in accordance with an idea it can no longer understand. It is insane and insatiable in its lust for its lost identity.
  17. Going to throw out a couple of obscure possibilities. Longshadow - the other world leading expert on fabrials. Geranid - Who better to awaken a slumbering superspren?
  18. Can I please further clarify? You are asking for evidence he personally would adjudge his actions to be moral or immoral, which is to say that objectively he isn't amoral as a character trait, rather than whether his actions would be adjudged moral or immoral by the standards of his community?
  19. The thrill does actually fit with something Honor might create. An entity that focuses and hardens the will of combatants to the task of upholding their oaths in battle. If you added Odium to such an entity you would likely end up corrupting something that causes battle discipline into something that causes battle frenzy.
  20. I'm going to quote my explanation for my argument from another thread here: So the thing here is, Adolin doesn't get to decide what is moral and immoral. Those definitions are societal norms, and as I said in that other thread, there is evidence that his act violated those norms. He can be acting in good faith and with good intention, and those acts still be considered immoral, and in fact we see this also in the actions of Taravangian.
  21. I don't think it's semantics of reincarnation. If I'm not mistaken (please correct me if I'm wrong @CalderisnewooklanamethatIcan'tfigureoutwhoiswho or someone similarly knowledgeable) when someone dies, they depart the spiritual realm for the beyond. For soulstamping to work the spiritual must exist. The physical wants to reflect the cognitive which wants to reflect the spiritual, which is why the soulstamp had to be so perfect - if it wasn't accurate then it wouldn't take. Anyway, the point is, if he existed in the spiritual and hadn't departed for the beyond, he wasn't dead and could not be reincarnated. If his cognitive existed beyond death he would be a cognitive shadow, but he wasn't invested so that isn't possible, and it isn't clear if a cognitive shadow is a real person or a cognitive copy of a person anyway. Anyway - dead people go to the beyond, so if soulstamping worked he wasn't dead, and if he wasn't dead he wasn't reincarnated. At least, that's my understanding. Hopefully someone knowledgeable in realmatics can sort out my muddled thoughts here.
  22. I think pretty much ANY other phrase to awaken an inanimate object would be an improvement on Nightblood. In the cosmere future I would not be surprised if references to the five scholars is used a euphemism for smart people doing really stupid things or something along those lines. "And now, I'll just add a little aluminium to the mixture and we'll see what happens." "Fine, when the dust settles I'll make sure they add your name in as the sixth scholar!"
  23. I don't know if there is a WoB on the end of stormlight. I don't think so, it wouldn't make much sense since this is the furthest forward tale in the cosmere other than sixth of dusk which doesn't really have any spoilers for stormlight (though the reverse can't be said to be true). Anyway, this is my signature to clarify that it is in fact a joke.
  24. To clarify, I am not a qualified psychologist, but I am training in psychology. My field of study is addiction counselling specialising in dual diagnosis. That said, I agree with everything else, but I do understand that it's easy to conflate the issue. I was describing a specific instance of behaviour, and not a pattern of behaviour which is where the confusion has arisen I believe.
  25. Okay, we can agree to disagree on that. I'm more talking about the conflating of the descriptor of a single instance of behaviour to a descriptor of a person which implies a pattern of behaviour that was never alluded to. My case for his act being immoral (which is how I will describe it going forward) is thus: Morality is a subjective cultural norm. It is clear that the murder of Sadeas violates that norm because of the need to conceal the act and the fear of the reaction to the act becoming public knowledge. If the act is immoral, then as a member of that culture the perpetrator of said act should feel remorse over it. Greater good and greater evil don't really factor into it, nor the individuals justifications made to themselves about the act - if they are acting in a manner contrary to the accepted standards of morality without contrition, they are, by definition, immoral in the view of the average member of that culture.
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