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Huh, I thought it was over 10 miles long. To be fair she needs to be in the precise center to get that range so they'd still be able to (Just) Locate her if she appeared at the extremes of the island.
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Even if the base was near the city centre a data point at the far Northern side of the city could be in range still, this was what I kept trying to point out. In the shown diagram the top-left circle (For the sake of argument I'll call it NW) would still reach very nearly to the centre of the city, even having a data point at the extreme edge of the city they need a point in the opposite direction to narrow down the effective possible area. If you cut manhattan into three parts, north, south and centre then even appearing at the extreme north or south end of the city the possible area Regalia is in is still the top or bottom two-thirds, you need data points from both directions in this case to ascertain her position.
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< Really wishes there was a www.supervillain-namecreator-because-you-are-a-stupid-epic-and-cannot-create-your-own.com site, would improve my hobby of creating random Epic ideas for the Oregon RP a lot.
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You still haven't addressed the many, many other points people have raised as to why they'd use a certain direction. David frequently uses Lorist descriptions and obviously understands them, that would be enough to join them. But he also invented his own system of classification, it would be OoC for him to so quickly switch his inner monologue when he's been using his own definitions most of his life. I really don't think it was, he said you 'really need' to do something because he's a forum mod. That's what they're supposed to do. Hence also why he didn't respond to the topic in question, he likely just quickly scanned the thread and saw that some moderating was needed.
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"Now now Prof, you know if you keep arguing it's just going to make you Tensor."
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Obliteration walked into a bar... There were no survivors.
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What if Intervention made him really really drunk?
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Can't Funtimes and Mobius just lock both of them up with the alligators?
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Something I've been curious about, what if an Epics greatest fear is something mythological, or else unattainable? For instance how would you kill an Epic with a Prime Invincibility whose weakness is zombies? Or what if their greatest fear was hell?
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I mean destroying the entire state to kill Nighthound is one thing, but Obliteration?
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Along with Incineration, Flagellation and detonation.
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There's only one thing that can improve Nighthound. And then Nighthound died.
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One problem with that comic? Nighthound seems to still possess a head.
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Why is life never as interesting as fiction? Real spiders give you nightmares, fictional spiders give you superpowers. That sounds absolutely horrible.
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The real reason Lucentia left Astoria? She was kicked out by a unanimous vote of every bartender in the city.
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Having a Bad Day? Stop here for a Good Rant!
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Kudos to you on keeping control regardless, I don't deal well with aggressive/idiot drivers like that at all, I'd probably just panic and break and then still get hit by both. -
I'm also kind of similar in that I deal a lot better with real spiders than the ones in my head, real spiders meet the sole of my shoe very quickly the imaginary ones are unfortunately unkillable. Somewhat graphic spider related fears described below.
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Possibly but also there wouldn't be any other Reckokners because he wouldn't be there to stop the explosion
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We nearly have 500 pages of Questions.
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Were those words typed by me? If not then I would think it unlikely that that's what I mean. The book could be wrong, although actually to be technical a character from the book would be wrong. Brandon has made mistakes in the past and will again, no one here is disagreeing just because we want the book to be right, we're disagreeing because your point is not valid. What specifically did I say that contradicts basic geometry? Why the incessant requests for needing a diagram? These are simple concepts that shouldn't need diagrammatic aid to understand, I honestly fail to see how a diagram could in any way aid in the explanation here. Just to make sure you understand, I'm not disputing the underlying geometry behind your argument, I'm just pointing out that practical factors eliminate it as valid evidence for the proposed 'error'. David had plenty of possible practical reasons for saying what he did, in fact given the dimensions of the area Regalia could be reasonably expected to manifest I think the error if there is one lies in the opposite direction, even with sufficiently large numbers of data points they may have required sighting her in extremely specific areas to narrow her location down precisely.
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I'm not sure why on earth you'd need a diagram for this? It's a pretty simple concept. And of course the city limits is in the books, Regalia rules over a city, why on earth would she appear outside of the city? The point that's being made is that you're ignoring reality and focusing on it as a pure geometrical excercise which it's evidently not. Yes it may be an arbitrary assertion but that's the way reality works, it doesn't just offer you up nice clean points exactly where you'd like them. Regalia is a person, with motivations, every single appearance she makes is for a reason, she has a motive behind appearing somewhere. Perhaps the NW of the city is scarcely visited by her, or perhaps she's made plenty of appearances there but they're all too clustered in one spot, for example near where she has meetings with Newton, in which case there would be no reason for her to appear further NW but could be lured into appearing in the SE. It's worth noting that the believed range of her abilities is around 5 miles, the length of manhattan is around 13, from a position in the centre she could reach nearly the entire island. If she was positioned in the far north then the only way they could discover that by getting points from the NW is if they found her appearing 5 miles away from her city. The number of possible variables that could influence the outcome is so staggeringly large compared to the known variables that it's pointless to speculate. But simply saying 'This is how it could work in a geometry problem, it didn't work like that therefore error.' is simply fallacious. We have no where near enough information to assert that. Granted it is possible that Brandon simply didn't run through the geometry while writing this one line but given his history of in-depth research it's also highly possible that he did and there's another reason that David said what he said.
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Not if there's no possibility of getting more data points, if say the ocean was in the way. Additionally you're forgetting that the position they're trying to narrow down to is a fixed place, they can't just keep checking the NW if Regalia never appears there under the assumption that it's just as good as the SE, what you're forgetting is that those data points narrow the data down equally in magnitude, but not in position, if Regalia is located closer to the SE then they need data points from the far SE to narrow down the position. From your blogs diagrams the fourth data point when you drew it in the top left has to be significantly further away from the other top-left circle in order to provide useful data, what if the ocean is there? There are physical barriers to consider. Moreover if you look closely at your diagram only the second top-left circle is necessary, the closer data point becomes irrelevant once one with similar orientation but greater distance is identified since it provides better data. Essentially there are a few considerations you've not included, that the area of possible data points is not infinite being primary among them. Which does propose a reason they needed data points from a particular direction, that they had data points already at the extremes of the other directions. Also I almost never do this on 17th Shard but I find the way you replied to ToJ just now quite rude, there's no reason to get overly defensive about a theory, no one's attacking you just sharing input.
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1- is just a difference in definitions, the definition Tia gives for a High Epic here is almost identical to David's term of Prime Invincibility. In Steelheart he also says theres a few hundred High Epics in Newcago but only a dozen or so with Prime Invincibilities. On 2, my guess was that they were referring to hitting some kind of barrier to having any data points in the NW region, or else the NW data points were all so clustered as to have too large an area of overlap and so a SE point could narrow the search a lot better.
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Statistically most Epics weaknesses would be public speaking Mine would probably be some form of social anxiety, I could rule the world! Just don't make me make small talk.
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Shouldn't be too long once the meetings all wrapped up.
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