Yitzi2
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(By the way, @BrightnessRadiant, this is significantly more likely than the LG34 to contain spoilers for Mistborn books 2 and 3. One fairly minor one follows:)
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Any particular reason why?
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I take it rioters can't riot "no vote" to someone?
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Not so sure that would prove it; elims might try to throw suspicion on each other so that when one is caught the other is cleared.
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Not true. To quote the roles from the OP in the main thread: " If you are block another Hazekiller performing their action, you both become Injured." That is, if you had been trying to block Manukos for some reason, and I blocked you, we would both become injured (and Manukos would not be blocked). If you had been not trying to block anyone, then neither of us would become injured.
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Pretty much certain; by this point, every surviving player is at least a tiny bit active. That said, I do somewhat suspect that when Jon tried to summon DroughtBringer back, it was because he was the only active elim at the time, and needed another for his hazekill ploy.
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So in that case, unless Jon, Elenion, and I did a 3-way hazekill (extremely unlikely to happen without coordination, would require at least one of us to be lying, and a waste of resources if we were all elims), it seems that Jon did hazekill whoever put in the kill.
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Would it still injure the person who hazekilled himself, or not even that? (And costing the elims their kill is probably not much of a cost, since Jon's plan was presumably to get injured and use that to cause a mislynch, and that only works if there's no kill anyway.)
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Spikes are possible together with Hazekiller, but I'm pretty sure that natural allomantic roles (e.g. Thug) are not. (And, in case you were going to ask: I do not have a spike.)
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I am not. If I were, I could not be a hazekiller, and hence could not be injured. And if steel became available for order and he ordered some? Or someone else ordered some and gave to him? It's a possibility (from the perspective of someone other than me and other than the elims), but significantly lower on the list than the major contenders.
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Keeping a village Mistborn alive seems a bit of a steep price for a WGG. Obviously, I can't be completely cleared...but assuming me to be an elim should be fairly low on the list of probabilities, rather than slot 1 or 2.
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If you're telling the truth but Araris is the thief, then Araris and Meta would necessarily be lying (unless Elenion and I were both lying, or there's a secret role somewhere). As such, the best choice would probably be to lynch Meta (as if one of the two is thief and one is elim, chances are Araris is thief and Meta is elim), and then Araris, and then based on Araris' role we'd have an idea about HH.
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I'm glad you caught my hint.
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Not really. Since if you are cleared on the lynch, then we've got a pretty good idea of who had to be lying if you're telling the truth, and that will mean we'll find quite a few elims at the cost of only one villager.
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So I'll join, as Jack Cooper, a plumber who moved from Earth to the station just a year ago.
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So the Phone Company Operator is essentially on the blue team and only marked in a different color because it's a unique role that can't go to aliens?
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Ok. Now that we've heard from everybody (thank you to both of you), time for some analysis: We can break down possibilities into three categories: Either Jondesu and Araris are both telling the truth, or Jondesu is lying, or Jondesu is telling the truth and Araris is lying. A. If Jondesu and Araris are both telling the truth, that means that Jondesu targeted Araris, but was blocked by someone else and thus was injured without blocking Araris. This leaves one of two possibilities: A1: There is a secret role (for instance, a hazekiller role that is not injured when it blocks); this seems highly unlikely. A2: Either Elenion or I blocked Jondesu; since we each claimed to have blocked the other, this would require us both to be lying. (For the record: I have a policy of not telling outright lies even as an elim.) This would be fairly unlikely to start with, and I think I am one of the closer-to-confirmed-as-village players after my revelation of giving Flash that pewter. B. If Jondesu is lying, he is presumably an elim. If so, then an elim specifically requested that DroughtBringer return to the game...was he trying to get an active teammate so that he could have a guaranteed block to frame Araris? That seems a bit convoluted...but why else would there be no elim kill, and whom would he have blocked? On the other hand, DroughtBringer voted for Jondesu; does that help clear him, or is it just bussing? So that leaves: B1: Jondesu and DB are both elims. B2: Jondesu is an elim, but DB is not. C. If Jondesu is telling the truth, and Araris is lying, we have two possibilities: C1: Araris is the thief, but is lying about not being blocked. If so, his motivations are unclear, unless Meta is the elim, Araris realized that and manipulated Meta into a lie, and is now going to reveal that he was blocked so we can take out Meta and end the game before he gets killed. (If that is the situation, Araris will presumably let us know fairly soon.) It also makes it a bit unclear as to why this was the first night since N0 that the elims didn't do a kill. In case C1, Meta is an elim. C2: Araris is an elim, and lying about everything. In this case, Meta and HH must both be elims (or one could be a thief loyal to the elims, but that seems fairly unlikely. Or one's a thief loyal to the elims following a plan arranged before BR was killed, or there's a third courier, but those seem unlikely as well). B seems the most likely to me, so I will keep my vote on Jondesu for now. (Araris, if it is case C1, no matter what your motivations, you should know that if Jondesu is lynched on your say-so and turns out to be innocent, you're pretty much guaranteed to be next.)
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Any theories about why he claimed unblocked thief rather than blocked thief?
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I'm still waiting to hear from @Hemalurgic_Headshot and/or @Metacognition, but if neither shows up by tomorrow morning, I'll post my analysis so that we have time to discuss it and change votes if necessary.
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Also, @Jondesu is it true that during night 4 you had no items to be stolen?
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Does this mean you're abandoning games in progress, or just that you won't join any new ones?
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I would like to hold off on commenting on these matters until we hear for or against Araris' claims from HH and Meta.
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Their goal is to take us out before we take them out. So if they think that skipping the kill will set us back enough through mislynches, it can be a viable play. When the game is over, we can look at the elim doc and see what happened.
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So that means that the number of injured hazekillers plus the number of blocked non-hazekillers will always be an even number. Ergo, some non-hazekiller was blocked. (I'm counting a hazekiller tanking a spike action or sending in the elim kill as a non-hazekiller here, of course.) If Jondesu is an elim (and if he's lying about targeting Araris he'd pretty much have to be), it could be that he blocked the elim that did send in the kill in order to try to achieve a mislynch by claiming to have targeted Araris.
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I would like to hear what both of them have to say before making a final decision...but tentatively Araris Jondesu.