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Yeah kindle version isn't up for me yet either... I'm in the eastern time zone, and I don't think it's gonna release until 2 AM eastern time... at least that's what it says on the preorder page for the audible audiobook

Ok... I just misinterpreted what was written there. That read, to me, like things that don't have an audio source including comments directly written by Brandon are marked as paraphrased. But I see from browsing the site that this is definitely not the case. My bad

This is great! It's good to know why a couple of people were marked as 'Arcanists'. I was beginning to think there was a Kingkiller section of the shard.... But I'm confused as to why you would mark Brandon's Reddit comments and such as 'paraphrased'. I would consider the wording of anything he typed and posted more accurate than the phrasing he uses off the top of his head at a signing.

I think the restrictions @QuantumHarmonix Was referring to are the Oaths... which were imposed on the Spren/surgebinders when the Knights Radiant were founded, sometime after the first spren bonded humans. I am unclear as to why Syl being one of the first spren to bond humans would grant Kaladin any additional power, as she is clearly constrained by the oaths now. Plus, I thought the only reason we believed Kal was demonstrating powers that aren't typical of a Windrunner was because Syl was surprised at what he could do... That probably wouldn't be the case if something weird about her was giving Kal additional abilities.

Especially if they're going to be renewing their efforts to kill Jasnah...

So... They were already planning to send Elhokar with Kaladin to try and activate the Oathgate in Kholinar. If that happens in part 2, and I'm guessing they will try to do this as soon as possible, then my bet is Kaladin is the missing secondary character and Elhokar is the tertiary character with viewpoints.

I think, from the oathbringer prologue, we can infer that the listeners change form by capturing a spren inside their gemheart. The typical parshendi transformations seemed to involve non-sapient regular-spren. The storm form transformation seemed to involve a non-sapient odium-spren. I'm guessing that a "Fused" is a listener/parshman whose gemhart contains a sapient odium-spren. The term fused would seem to indicate that they are no longer two separate entities, as with a nahel bond, but a single being formed from a fusion of two sentient beings. At least, that's my interpretation... but I would be interested if a stormform listener was considered one of the 'fused'

Perhaps it was because this was the first time someone mentioned Evi while he was holding stormlight?

The listeners all communicated verbally with each other... they just have acces to the shared rythms, which allowed them to coordinate actions more easily... Also I'm not sure we can call this group of former parshmen 'listeners' since Kal didn't mention any 'sing-song' quality to their speech, they may not have access to the rythms.

Indeterminate.

The actual quote from WoR is this: This sounds more like the diagram suggests Dalinar would become an enemy if he managed to create stability, and thus become a competitor for the ultimate leader of any alliance of humanity... It seems like becoming 'high king' puts him directly in opposition to this passage from the diagram. I suppose you could argue that with whatever is going on in Kholinar, Alethkar is still unstable and the diagram may not be against Dalinar... But that's really not where I'd put my money

He got Adolin's plate through marriage...

I think you're misinterpreting what @robardin is saying here, I said something similar in a previous comment: And I didn't mean that I thought Kal is ashamed of being who he is or that I think he's going to be determined to hide that he's a Radiant... I meant that Kal is uncomfortable with the fact that he became a lighteyes when he became a Radiant, and he's uncomfortable with the implications of what that means for the current lighteyes' justification for rule... The last thing he wants to do is give the current lighteyes additional justification to say that their eye color indicates the favor of the Almighty. So using his supposed 'rank' to take control of the situation would seem like a regression of character and a sign of reduced maturity, to me. For proof that he's still at least somewhat uncomfortable I give you this from chapter 5: For proof that he doesn't want to further justify the lighteyes supposed superiority, I give you this from WoR:

The counter I have to the idea that Fabrials don't need stormlight to function is this passage from WoR: Since Rushu was surprised that the blade could still be summoned and dismissed when the gemstone had gone dun, that would suggest it was an anomaly, thus, their typical fabrials probably need to be infused to function.

I imagine the 'hurried tone' is Lirin trying to keep Kal from being locked up... Or perhaps even summarily executed (the guard did mention hanging earlier in the chapter) We don't really have any evidence that they did send a message since the storm. all we have is this paragraph: A competent and considerate Lord shouldn't need to be told that the towns/villages under their purview would need aid after the land was wracked by a storm traveling in the wrong direction in the middle of the weeping... The competent and considerate part is why Lirin is surprised when he thought aid had already been sent.

I'm lazy, so I'm just gonna leave a link to my comment on the chapter 1-3 discussion thread, regarding this topic... The gist of it is I think Dalinar is recognizing the Thrill in the Champion's eyes not someone he knows. Edit: Also there is literally a thread with this exact topic and name already created last week:

I don't think they have a spanreed, or at least they aren't trying to send this message via spanreed... Here is the passage from Chapter 6: To me, this specifically reads like they are NOT expecting an immediate reply, otherwise the guard would not be concerned about a 'shash-branded man running around his town' in the meantime. Additionally, Lirin asked Hesina to 'write a letter', remember, you do not write something and THEN send it on a spanreed, you write it WITH a spanreed and it gets copied in realtime by the person/spanreed on the other end.

Eh... until we see an actual example of a Radiant losing their surgebinding I'm going to assume that limit to be like several miles... All this really says to me is that if the Stormfather is 'in' a highstorm on the other side of the world Dalinar won't lose his abilities because the Stormfather is somewhat omnipresent... and I'm going to assume that if Syl or Pattern were on the other side of the world the same wouldn't hold true. But I don't think this WoB is enough to say that Kal or Shallan would lose their abilities if their spren was scouting for them within the same city... I'm not saying that it's definitely true but we don't really have enough information to definitively constrain the possibilities as far as you are, I think. The illusion would unravel before she came up with the trick of linking it to Pattern and giving him Stormlight to feed the illusion. Rather long passage from WoR: Edit: I already said in my original post that this is probably impractical with the current Stormlight shortage... But I don't agree that we can say the feat is impossible based on the information we have

IIRC in WoR we learned that Shallan can anchor illusions to Pattern AND give him stormlight to fuel an illusion. I agree that there would be problems with the illusion acting autonomously... But if the illusion was actually just her disguising someone else (Gaz perhaps) as herself, then presumably it could walk around and perform minor interaction without falling apart as long as Pattern is there to feed it Stormlight... should probably be able to talk too, but Shallan hadn't figured out how to incorporate sound in her illusions yet, right? As far as your point about Radiants needing to be in close proximity to use their abilities... What proof do we have of the range of this? The only thing I recall is Syl saying she might lose herself when she left Kal for a time, but that was still a fledgling bond. And she didn't lose herself by leaving... I'm not convinced that Shallan would lose her surgebinding as long as she and pattern were still both in Urithiru. This ruse still seems pretty unlikely though, given that they're running really low on stormlight... Though I suppose I could see Shallan trying it as a test to verify she could maintain her two personas simultaneously.

Not a WoB as far as I'm aware, but there is this from edgedancer: Since that description doesn't sound like a cultivation spren (like wyndle) it is presumed that she is a truthwatcher. Edit, description of Ym's spren in WoR: Seems to match pretty well with Stump's description

Yeah, that was mostly a joke... But let me ask you, what would be the point of adding a toddler surgeon to the story? Its not believable and I can't see how it would add anything valuable to the narrative.

Well... all the surgeons in our world wear gloves. I am surprised that vorin sensibilities allow for a female surgeon, perhaps she's also a member of the ardentia? But, I can't imagine that a biological child of Hesina and Lirin could possibly be old enough to have been considered an apprentice for "a few years"... maybe they adopted, I could see that... Personally, I'm expecting some part of the revelation that Hesina was about to make to be about some of her family being in Hearthstone, maybe she's a niece... But my only real evidence that she could have anything to do with Hesina's family is that we were teased about her family in Kal's flashbacks and never got an answer.

I don't get what summoning the shardblade would actually solve... Right now he looks like a dangerous, possibly unstable, vagabond who just clocked their city lord. Someone explain to me how summoning what is essentially a rosharan weapon of mass destruction will result in a peaceful solution... I get that Alethi Shardbearers are automatically of the fourth Dahn, but Kaladin sure as heck doesn't look like an 'upstanding lighteyed citizen' right now even once his eyes change color... So even if he summons Syl they're not going to believe he has any actual authority unless he has some documentation to back him up. And if that documentation exists, I don't think he needs a shardblade to subdue a couple of inexperienced guards. and I fully expect that Kaladin WILL have some form of writ since it specifically said at the end of WoR that Dalinar's scribes were going to draw up paperwork for Kal to requisition the Gemstones, and that he wanted Kal to continue on to Kholinar after Hearthstone... Surely they didn't expect him to be capable of doing much good there if he was unable to prove his legitimacy.

As I alluded to in my other reply, summoning a shardblade to prove his 'superiority' and gaining control of the situation by terrifying everyone in the room, likely including Lirin and Hesina, would read more like him becoming one of the arrogant lighteyed a-holes, than a controlled Radiant... Justifying his actions by declaring himself the highest rank in the room seems exactly like what Kal has been fighting against.

I don't think anything that's happened so far can be seen as out of character, coldly decking Roshone in place of a greeting seems perfectly reasonable to me. But summoning a shardblade in front of a group of terrified townsfolk, after he's already recognized that he must look like dangerous vagabond to them, does seem out of character for a Kaladin with his rage under control... and he seemed in control while slugging Roshone. If he does go that route I imagine his reunion with Lirin will take a sour note...