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And that's possible, but I think the cities/villages were probably built there before the shattering. Once the event happened, people started abandoning those cities/villages, and any buildings left in tact became covered in crem over the years.

Might be an OS issue because I tried Chrome and it's doing the same thing. I'm still running iOS 9.3 since Apple is great about pushing out updates that their older phones can't run well. I think I understand what @Calderis is saying but when I press the large magnifying class, the search menu doesn't open at all. So I'm guessing it's something with my OS.

Here's what happens on my phone. The magnifying glass turns orange but I don't get a drop down like that. Same thing on the left side. If I press the button in the top left, I don't get an extra side menu. I can try another phone browser later as a test.

First of all, the site is excellent. The hours of work put into this must have been immense, and the work is greatly appreciated. This system is so much better than the old one. I do have a question about mobile features. I don't seem to be able to use the search function when viewing the site on my phone. When I press the question mark symbol, it turns from white to orange, but nothing else happens. Not sure if it's something with Safari or not. Just thought I'd ask if the mobile version of the site had the search feature active yet.

Honestly I'd have to go back and look at it too. I'm thinking the city was in the center though, and the shattering affected a much wider area than just the city itself. Some of those plateaus are humongous, so I think some of the plateaus are just fragmented land masses instead of crem-covered buildings.

Missed this comment earlier, but like was said, I'm pretty sure the part of the plains that used to be a city was at the center of the plains. All of the vast landscape surrounding the city wasn't buildings covered in crem. That was just what happened at the city.

I'll agree on that. Don't know if the resonances caused by Stormlight-fueled powers between two orders are affecting chemical bonds or if they're doing something completely different. I'm just not 100% sure on what Brandon's intent on using the term resonance there is.

The word resonance has a few different definitions. I'm referring to the mechanics/physics definition in my theory. The way resonances between two KR orders are described reminds me of the Chemistry definition of the term: two structures joining to create a single, more powerful structure. Resonance can be used to describe a few different phenomena, but I'm specifically looking at the vibrations.

Your theory reminds me of something from Edgedancer:

I always assumed the second part was referring to Kaladin regaining the ability to use Stormlight in WoR when Syl comes back to him. But I suppose it's possible that one death rattle was referring to two separate events.

I think it's possible (though not sure exactly how) that they could be corrupted versions of the Heralds. The actual Heralds are going insane, so maybe they lost a piece of themselves that made them whole? And those torn away pieces became the Unmade? I like it.

I feel like this seems pretty obvious/strongly hinted at. I know some people think Odium created them, but I think what Odium did was take something that already existed and corrupted it. Maybe the 9 were humans or listeners, or maybe they were some sort of spren. But I do think they were corrupted creations, not brand new creations.

@Steelheart I think it seems plausible. I just wonder if the shattering was done with a specific intent or if it was an unexpected reaction to something else. To me, the design seems like a specific intent was in mind, I'm just not sure what that would be.

@Steelheart Gotcha. I would have to look at the timelines of when Tanavast died/merged with the Stormfather in reference to the shattering of the plains. Doubt those exact dates are known, but the general timelines probably are. I went digging through some old threads here on cymatics, and I couldn't find any concrete theories that proved why the plains were shattered. I'm mainly curious as to what kind of force could have vibrated the plains in a way that caused a Chladni earthquake so to speak. It had to have been massive.

I got Jasnah but felt like it was a pretty poor quiz lol. Had quite a few "none of the above" kind of questions.

@Steelheart I do think the Listeners Song may suggest the shattering of the plains was the act of a "god" of some sort. Almost as if, "our gods didn't shatter these plains...but another god did." The timeline of the creation of the Stormfather doesn't match up as @Yata mentioned, but I think it's plausible he could have been involved in the event.

As long as it's close to the center, you'd still get pretty good radial symmetry if the source of the resonance occurred at the Oathgate. Won't be perfectly symmetrical, but you'll still get symmetrical looking patterns. So that might not line up exactly if the entire plains really do experience perfect symmetry. But thanks for the clarification on that one and for the passage where the plate was used by Kabsal.

Well...guess it's good I concluded the same thing that was mentioned in the book? Didn't remember the Chladni plate from the book, but it's been a while since I've read tWoK. Was it in a sketch? I suppose the question left is what kind of assault caused the resonance? I think it could've been lightning from a highstorm, although a magic based attack would make sense too.

I've been tossing this theory around in my head this evening based on this sketch of the Shattered Plains in WoR. Based on this sketch, it's pretty obvious that the Shattered Plains were formed based on radial symmetry. But why? Well, for a while I just wrote this off as, "Roshar is simply a symmetrical system." But why would a land mass of this size experience radial symmetry? Then I remembered this concept from physics. These are patterns of sand experiencing radial symmetry. The device that can create these patterns is known as a Chladni plate. The basic concept is that if you place a vibrating device in the center of a metal plate and tune the device to vibrate at certain resonant frequencies, the sand on the plate will automatically scramble around the plate in patterns of radial symmetry. This works because at resonance, certain parts of the plate experience no vibration at all (this is where the sand sits and doesn't move). The rest of the plate is vibrating so heavily that the sand pushes away from these sections. This idea started forming in my head as to how an entire land mass could have potentially broken up into patterns experiencing perfect (or at least nearly perfect) radial symmetry. If some sort of resonant vibration could have occurred at the dead center of this land mass, then it seems plausible that the plains could have shattered around the center of this vibration with radial symmetry. So, what's at the center of the Shattered Plains? The Oathgate at Narak. I got this info off the Coppermind. At the dead center of the Shattered Plains, we have an Oathgate sitting atop of a plateau. Does this have anything to do with how the Shattered Plains originated, and if so, how? According to the old Listener Songs, their gods (presumably of Odium, maybe the Unmade even), did not cause the plains to shatter. But, does the song seem to insinuate that some god did shatter them? If so, I have a potential idea based on my resonant frequency theory. The Stormfather. See Schumann resonances: If lightning discharges have the ability to produce resonant frequencies, Roshar experiences frequent highstorms, and there is an Oathgate sitting atop a plateau at the center of the Shattered Plains... I believe the plains shattered when lightning struck the Oathgate. Now, it's very plausible that the phenomenon could be more related to Stormlight than lightning, because according to Navani's notebook, Stormlight appears to take on the form of symmetrical patterns inside of fabrial gemstones. I've pretty much narrowed down my theory to a lightning strike or some sort of Stormlight surge in the Oathgate itself causing the shattering. In conclusion, I believe the Shattered Plains follow a Chladni pattern based on their radial symmetry. The pattern of the shattering was formed based on a large force (maybe lightning or Stormlight) producing a resonant frequency at the Oathgate in Narak. If you would like to see some of the power behind natural resonances, check out the history of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse in 1940. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge_(1940)

Shallan also had 3 more chapters than Kaladin. My memory is probably a bit skewed on this one though because Kaladin's longer chapters happened early in the chapter releases. Haven't read a Kaladin PoV in a few weeks, and the last couple PoV chapters for him were shorter than his first 6-ish. Not complaining or anything, but I feel like Kaladin got less focus in Part 1 than both Shallan and Dalinar. But part of Dalinar's focus was the flashback chapters, so Dalinar and Kaladin were probably about even if you don't count the flashbacks.

Some of the Kaladin chapters had super short word counts though. Dalinar/Shallan really dominated the first section of the book imo.

Think I've read some ideas before that the tertiary character that is heavily involved in Part 2 could be Moash. I'm personally hoping Part 2 kinda picks up where Edgedancer left off, but I feel like that storyline is just going to take place in Interludes. Based on how the story has gone so far, I feel like Kaladin would take the back seat in Part 2. Shallan has just been doing too much recently to abruptly stop at the end of Part 1, and I don't see Dalinar's story ever taking a backseat in this book. He's the main focus this time around.

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It takes me a while to get through a book of this size and actually enjoy the read. If I read too fast I miss too many details. I spent about 3 weeks on tWoK and also about 3 weeks on WoR. I'll read a lot over Thanksgiving break while I'm off work (I work at a college), so I'll probably finish this one in about 2-3 weeks like the other ones.

Can't remember the exact wording, but I like when Szeth is rambling about how he's reached the point of madness, and Lift's response is "Oooooookay." It's almost like Brandon was making a parody of his own writing lol. There are a lot of humorous moments. Like when Lift is trying to bargain with Wyndle to get him to read every single document in the library.