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The latter part is certainly true, but why would the Ghostbloods want Dalinar in power? I think Mraize fits almost all the angles of the profile of the Second Murderer - we know he's in Urithiru somewhere, was talking to Shallan not long before Adolin went off to explore the upper levels and bumped into Sadeas, he's cold-blooded enough to kill a random Alethi just to cause confusion, and skilled enough to mimic the execution exactly based on Sadeas' death. That strongly suggests he not only saw the body before anyone discovered it, but that he witnessed the killing from some hidden location. And it doesn't appear that Adolin is exactly grateful for it. He seems pretty angry that a presumably innocent man has been killed, in a way to ensnare him even deeper in his hidden crime. The only question is, why would Mraize bother to shift attention about Sadeas away from Adolin? Is it a ploy to gain leverage on Shallan, or something else?

He had it on his shoulder when he arrived by Oathgate at the end of Words of Radiance, and that was the last we've seen of it. Presumably it's in Dalinar's custodianship. Hey, I wonder if an Honorblade would operate an Oathgate as well as a Shardblade would.

From the title and the sub-forum, I was sure this was going to be a request for an Artist's Rendition of "The PUNCH"

I find the idea of Adolin investigating a murder kind of funny, even if it weren't for the fact that he himself is the murderer he's looking for (one of them, anyway), because of his exchange with Kaladin in planning for handling another visit from the Assassin in White: Words of Radiance, Ch. 58: Adolin as an interrogator would spill more secrets than he extracted.

I almost forgot about Aesudan's decadent and corrupt rule triggering the riots in Kholinar, before the Evenstorm. Almost. I wonder how this will shape up in Elhokar's story arc. Not only is he clearly feeling overshadowed, usurped, and sidelined by Dalinar, Kaladin, etc., but his authority cannot even shield his own wife and child, and his hometown is in open rebellion against him. How can he possibly leave that to Dalinar to address? He's going to have to Do Something Himself About That to have even a shred of self-respect.

I think it's more about the pacing of the narrative. Too much information too quickly can turn a story into an info dump. Kaladin did hear his father refer to the apprentice by name, "unless [Roshone] thinks Mara is ready [to take over for him] after only a few years of apprenticeship" or something like that, and didn't react, so I don't think it's someone he knew (by name) from his childhood in Hearthstone.

What's particularly compelling about this angle is that neither of them has ever seen the other. Kaladin is aware of Jasnah Kholin, of course - she's famous, as a heretical scholar who's the sister of the King, and Kaladin was present when Shallan brought news of her death to Dalinar and Navani - but Jasnah has no inkling of Kaladin's existence or connection with her family. If Hoid/Wit were still traveling with Jasnah when they encountered each other, that'd be even more fun.

Right, I meant it doesn't happen that way with any or even most lighteyed/darkeyed unions, while on Roshar we've seen or heard mention of "one-eyes" as a routine or at least very likely outcome of an infrequently seen union. It is a prerequisite for it to happen at all, of course.

I think it was meant to be "obviously" Jasnah, who was "killed" on the boat with Shallan but instead spent months in the Cognitive Realm with the spren and possibly worldhopped as well (she can't exactly get a backpack, bandolier, and a glove in the Sprentown Market). Which of course is why it isn't Jasnah. But like I've said before, I'm done trying to guess the author or meaning of these chapter heading quotes. Whatever Brandon's setting me up for, I'll walk right into with my eyes wide closed. It's... Better that way.

Oooooooohh I like this, a dirty plan on so many levels. Even if she didn't suspect or know it was Adolin, an interesting way to draw out the murderer.

I look forward to Dalinar asking Adolin for status reports on his investigation into "the murders". The most obvious reason for the copycat murder of poor Vedekar Perel (other than the "despairing fan of Sadeas - copycat suicide" theory) is that someone is setting up yet another person as the murderer, with the idea that Sadeas' murder could then be pinned on the same person due to the identical MO. Which "murderer" would conveniently die while getting captured before interrogation, or be discovered dead with a trail of blatant clues. Since Adolin doesn't seem to be the guy to have arranged this, who could it be and why? The Ghostbloods, to get in further good with Shallan by "saving" her beau with a cover story? The Sons of Honor, to blackmail Adolin directly?

Dalinar has only done the Second Ideal, too, right? And all Orders have Five Ideals to become fully realized? So if a Level 2 Bondsmith can commandeer another Radiant's Surgebinding, imagine what a Level 5 one could do, yeah.

Huh. Given the description in the Wikipedia article, I guess simply being aluminum coated wouldn't help at all, since it's a surface-to-surface type of problem. Tell me, does this also eliminate the possibility of literal "silver bullets" of the type often depicted as ideal ammo to use against the undead?

I'm hoping there will be some mention of Tezim having a strangely constant emission of saliva that will cause most of this board to go AHAHAAAA!

Well, let's not jump to conclusions. Maybe this guy was just a huge Sadeas fan, despite being from Sebarial's camp, and just committed a copycat suicide in despair.

What a great way to start, a terrific wrap-up for Kaladin's homecoming to Hearthstone. So Kaladin can "feel" his eyes going light now. Interesting. So there's something about Bondsmiths can invoke "command performances" of other Radiants' powers?! Whoa. I can't believe I didn't see that coming: Dalinar appointing Adolin to investigate Sadeas' murder. WHOA. And a completely unrelated murder, of an ostensibly innocent person, in a style to suggest some kind of serial killer at work in Urithiru? WHOAAAAAA. [Ghostbloods in da house? But why?] Is this anywhere close to where Adolin ditched Oathbringer, the Shardblade most recently bonded to Sadeas? Renarin the self-named Truthwatcher seemed to recognize Dalinar's description of Odium's champion... But isn't seeing the future something of Odium? Does he "see" that Adolin killed Sadeas?

I meant that the child of a darkeyed person and a lighteyed one isn't how heterochromia happens. I'm fully brown-eyed and my wife has light green eyes, and we have three dark-eyed children, so I know this firsthand.

Also of interest to the how "light eyes" is part of the Rosharan sDNA, possibly inherited from the original Radiants, is that we've seen several instances of a lighteyes/darkeyes union resulting in a "one-eye", i.e., someone with one dark and one light eye. Moash mentions that his friend Graves (who he evidently valued over Kaladin... Grrr...) is a lighteyes "who doesn't care about eye color", marrying a darkeyes and who has a son who's a one-eye, and we also saw a Highprince with a "one-eyed" bastard son (presumably gotten on a darkeyed woman) who was sent to the Davar household to investigate the charge of murder. Just so you know, that's not something that happens in the real world, or any other Cosmere world we've seen. There's something about eye color on Roshar, indeed.

I also don't think A-tin by itself particularly helps one "avoid danger" - only danger of a specific kind one is already looking out for, and thus where burning tin would alert you as soon as possible. Like looking out for a specific (dangerous) individual from a crowd, or listening for the sound of a trap triggering in a silent room, where a sudden flash of light or loud sound of any kind could be damaging to the allomancer, as well. A-tin is just not a particularly combat-oriented ability (which is why I find Jak's threat to some koloss of "an Allomancer enraged" so funny), not unless paired with pewter, which as Spiked Spook discovered is a very nicely balanced pair of abilities.

I brought this up somewhere earlier, but yeah, A-electrum seems underutilized... Ha ha, in fact it appears to be one of my very first posts here on 17th Shard! - Allomantic Electrum: Underrated? Wherein @Kurkistan provides two excellent WoBs to that effect: and: So if an Era 2 Oracle burned it frequently from an early age, enough to be a savant, I think they'd be as close to an atium-burning whirlwind as one would see in that time.

Well, if you go down that line of thought... What would an unkeyed goldmind (with corresponding medallion) do to a koloss? Can tapping gold heal hemalurgic damage to one's Spiritweb? After all, in Mistborn: Secret History,

I agree that Lin Davar is something of a tragic figure who gradually turned dark after starting having mostly good intentions, but are you referring to anything specific in terms of saying that "Odium gained influence on him", or using that as a general expression of his descent into violence? (Which can happen all on its own)

Good, I hope you're right, because by his own admission, he's a terrible cook!

People who put ketchup on their chouta. He's not Herdazian, but c'mon, man!

Kaladin before he became a Surgebinder? Because as a Windrunner, traffic is Something That Happens To Other People. He could fly over the traffic, Lash the other cars upwards and out of the way, or do both. The only Radiants who'd be less bothered by traffic would be the ones with the Surge of Transportation.