Mirdrim

That, or presumably, be a fullborn Feruchemist and eat a Lerasium bead.

Sazed was definitely my favorite in the original Mistborn trilogy..his mannerisms were always interesting to me. Wayne in era 2, the way he seems like an idiot so frequently, then makes puns and plays on words that more 'intelligent' characters don't pick up on.. the way he masterfully manipulates people by talking circles around them. His 'borrowing' accents, 'trading' things, the hat being a costume for the brain...he is just a hilarious character that always handles things that Wax would never know need to be handled. The way he and Wax work together is just too cool. Really loved him in BoM Rock is my favorite from SA, he is a really cool character. I can't wait to see the point where he is inevitably forced to fight. I think it will be similar to the scenes in WoT when Loial joins the fray.

As far as Odium destroying worlds, it seems like Roshar is an exception in this regard, I think the only reason he wants to destroy the planet in this case is to destroy the civilization upon it, which has become involved in the conflict between shards in some way. The Oathpact has something to do with his being bound to the Roshar system, I believe, and Humans have become embroiled in this through the KR and the Nahel bond. I don't particularly think that Odium is interested in destroying planets, but in the case of Roshar he sees it as necessary in order to shatter the Oathpact fully and escape. We do have to consider that all we know of Trell and Harmony's current conflict is not only in-world, but on-world, meaning we have no perspective of the situation at a shardic level. All we are seeing is what's happening to Wax & co. I think it's fairly likely that most of what's happening *on* Scadrial is intended to be a distraction. Sazed is not as far removed from his own humanity as other shards, and as such, I would think he has a more vested interest in the planet itself. Though he does not act, partially through a decision of his own and probably also partially due to the nature of the shards he holds, he seems to have spent a good bit of his time just trying to learn from his experiences as a shardholder. In his conversation with Wax, he explains the mistakes he made in reforming Scadrial, which makes me think he hasn't spent much time observing or attempting to discern what's happening outside of the Scadrial system. Edit: I hadn't considered the possibility of Trell being Odium's new vessel, though I find it doubtful. Personally, I think people are too fixated on Odium as the only possibility of a 'bad guy' shard. I really do think that with 16 shards (less those splintered and not held) we will not see so much recycling of characters. Absolutely, I think Odium is involved with more than just Roshar, but I don't think anything shard-based that is malicious or antagonistic is him.

I've wondered this before as well, but less specifically. I've wondered what Hoid's actual ultimate goal is, because it has been written that Cephandrius had declined to hold a shard, and Brandon has confirmed that Cephandrius was one of Hoid's earliest names. Well, a shard is just a massive amount of investiture, so why would Hoid want to gather all of this investiture when he'd had the opportunity to be a shardholder and have a tremendous amount of investiture immediately. Did Hoid know that Rayse would conspire to destroy and splinter the other shards, and that he wouldn't be able to stop him with a shard? Does he have some plan to amass huge amounts of Investiture from different sources in order to be able to ascend to a shard of his own, without a previously set intention? I tend to think that Hoid's previous denial of a shard comes from the understanding that shards intent will affect the holder, and they will be in some ways bound by their shard's intent. Maybe Hoid wants to find Kelsier to be able to better understand feruchemical storage of Investiture, which could possibly be a way for him to amass enough investiture to be able to impact things on a shardic level. Admittedly, I haven't read much of WoB and other extraneous information, I'm sure at least a couple of my theories could be discarded from things Brandon has said, but I think it'd be interesting to see if Hoid's story played out like this.

Agreed, and I think it's more likely some indirect manipulation, rather than a different shard working 'on behalf of' Odium. Ultimately, by this point, I think most of the shards that aren't newly held are well aware of Odium's intent, which would lead them to b less than keen on working with him. I don't think it's inconceivable that Odium could act in such a way as to concern other shards that Harmony is a potential threat, or that he had managed to convince a newly held dual-shard into working with him, causing another well-meaning shard to try to disrupt Harmony's work. The second half of that is maybe a little flimsy, as Trell's actions definitely seem malicious, but of course we are watching from in-world and have a limited scope of the situation.

I personally loved the scene where the Thaylen merchant and his apprentice went to Shin. It was super cool to see the Earth-like part of Roshar for the first time, and realize how immersed I had become in the story. I felt like Shin was such a strange place, the "stupid" grass, the strawberry and the chickens that shouldn't have been able to survive on the planet. All things I have seen in real life, and I thought it was strange. As far as action, I thought the arena duel scene with Adolin, Renarin and Kaladin was awesome. I always really enjoyed Szeth's scenes, as seeing his mastery of lashings was so cool. I have to mention the scenes in Mistborn when Sazed uses the majority of his metalminds up fighting off the Koloss. When he gets huge and holds the gate, so badass. I also loved the scene where he squared off with the Inquisitors.

As far as the Trell being Odium theory, I can see that, but I personally subscribe to the idea that Trell is a different shard either acting on behalf of Odium, or being manipulated by Odium. There was a longer thread with a bunch of people discussing it, and, though I don't think either option has been satisfyingly and conclusively proven, I do think that the fact that there are 16 shards leads me to believe that we will see another shard rather than Odium himself, though I do think Odium will be in some way involved, at minimum exploiting the conflict between Trell and Harmony.

Absolutely, this is why I have such a hard time sort of explaining why I like one story over another. I feel like Roshar just has that truly epic fantasy feel, where there is a massive overarching story that transcends the characters themselves. Mistborn absolutely has some great aspects of the same feeling. I do enjoy the shorter nature of the Mistborn series, and the pacing is awesome, but I came from Wheel of Time, Saga of Recluce, and other, similarly huge series. I have very little issue with reading a backstory, flashback, or a somewhat boring introduction and character building, because I know the importance of the characterization and building out the traits that will influence their use of the magic systems, and what not. I absolutely love Mistborn, but I always find myself so engrossed in Stormlight.

I would agree with that. The magic system on Roshar is the most intriguing to me, and, though I loved the Mistborn magic and the creative methods they could be used, especially in era 2, I think we will see some very cool things with Roshar. The nature of plate and blades, the Listeners and their nuances are very interesting to me as well.. Though there are a ton of secrets with Mistborn, I find myself a little more sated with them after the original trilogy and Secret History...of course...Secret History just opens up a world of questions in the greater Cosmere. It's good to have you, I look forward to wild speculations

Hello, welcome to the Shard. What has your favorite Sanderson novel been so far? Asking that question makes me realize that I would probably list off over half of his books if I was asked the same. Good luck answering.

Hey Stick! Welcome to the Shard

I would say welcome, but instead I guess I'll say RIP. What other Sanderson work have you read outside of WoK?

Hello, welcome. Your English is great, and reading and communicating is an excellent way to improve in those ways you may be slightly deficient. Given what you've read, I would recommend checking out Emperor's Soul, and the second era Mistborn series is excellent. I also really enjoyed the Reckoners series, but it is not set in the Cosmere.

I think this is pretty plausible. There is certainly room for Helaran to have survived. At minimum, I think we'll see more about Helaran through the Ghostbloods or through some flashbacks. I think it would be an interesting twist to see that Helaran was indeed a member of the Ghostbloods, just like his father, which could conceivably have contributed to his conflict with his father, as Helaran could have been more dedicated to the Ghostblood's "actual" cause, while their father seemed like he was only trying to use the Ghostbloods as a means to become more wealthy and influential in Jah Keved. Overall, a very interesting theory. Like I said, I believe we'll see more about Helaran, at minimum I'd hope to learn a few hints about where his original shards came from, and whether he was given them by the Ghostbloods or by some other organization.

As far as the reference to "the element" I thought he was talking about the chain/black gemstone that Szeth took from Gavilar. The only reason I thought of it right away is because I hadn't heard anything else of it. It seems like it might be a stretch that Hoid would give the thing to Gavilar and know that eventually Szeth would kill him and be given it for safekeeping. Regardless whether this has anything to do with Hoid, it is an interesting little tidbit that I had forgotten until my second readthrough of WoK. It's interesting that Gavilar trusts Szeth, as his killer, to keep it safe and deliver a message to his brother.

Yeah, I have read just about everything in the Cosmere. I did check out the White Sand excerpt, but I think that's all that's out at the moment, unless you request the novella from Brandon. I checked out the Wax & Wayne series and was very surprised that I liked it as much as the original series. I have never found an author I so uniformly enjoyed as Sanderson. The only work from him that I haven't read is Infinity Blade, Alcatraz & Evil Librarian series, and Firstborn. Thank you for the warm welcome. Fortunately for my soul's health I am on a diet, so no cookies. I wouldn't want to Ruin my fantastic physique..

Hello, fellow Sanderson fanatics! I am Mirdrim, and I enjoy philosophical ramblings, psychology, literature, the occasional videogame, and strength training. I began my addiction to Brandon's work with his completion of Wheel of Time, and was thoroughly impressed with his completion of such a long and detailed series. I began to consume his own work at an alarming rate. First came Elantris, which I loved for it's unique magic system and interesting pseudo-zombie illness. I picked up Mistborn, and, fortunately for me, read it straight through, as the original trilogy was fully released when I started reading it. After finishing Mistborn (which I absolutely loved) I read Warbreaker, which I also loved, then moved on to Emperor's Soul, which was absolutely phenomenal, and probably one of the best shorter novels I have read. I was shocked by how much I loved this story, given the synopsis and seeming "lameness" of the storyline. My favorite series is definitely Stormlight Archive, followed closely by Mistborn. I also really enjoyed the Reckoners series, but I find myself craving more Cosmere content. Aside from Sanderson, I enjoy reading L.E. Modesitt Jr., Patrick Rothfuss, George R.R. Martin, Brent Weeks, and occasionally philosophy. I look forward to discussing Cosmere theories with some bigger dorks than I. Edit: I just finished Arcanum Unbounded, and was a little disappointed that I had read all but two of the stories contained within. However, I was extremely impressed with Edgedancer and Sixth of the Dusk. I really enjoyed Lift's new story, and thought Brandon did an excellent job of bringing a character that seemed silly or frivolous fully into the story. I am interested to see how things play out for her in the future novels.