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In the Ars Arcanum in the back of the book, it says around 30 breaths is where the color shift would be noticeable to a single breath holding person.
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I believe that if it is possible for Preservation to imprison Ruin, it would be possible for this to happen from other shards. It is possible, however, that the nature of Preservation and Ruin, being diametrically opposed, caused the imprisonment to be far more effective. I also think that it is likely that the pact between Preservation and Ruin to create a world together allowed Preservation to do some things that would not be possible without a 'willing' opponent, so to say. I believe it is entirely possible that Preservation "tricked" Ruin into putting himself in a more vulnerable position so Preservation could trap him. I think this is unlikely to be the case with Honor/Cultivation and Odium. Odium was not involved with Roshar's creation, nor were Honor and Cultivation. We also see nothing similar to the Oathpact on Scadrial, which has been theorized to be heavily involved in the conflict with Odium.
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Double Zinc..compounding storage of mental quickness, as well as the ability to riot emotions. Gain a following easily by rioting emotions correctly, always one step ahead of the opposition, able to talk their way through almost anybody that is opposing them and not as susceptible to emotional alomancy. Basically the ability to do what Hitler, Hussein, Kim Il'Sung, Jong'Il, Jong'Un have done by inciting hatred and anger, fueled by despair and desperation and subjugating those who are a little less likely to succumb to hatred through fear and the loyalty of their followers. We live in a non-magical world, and we have dictators capable of convincing people en masse that they are a superior being through propagandistic education and censorship of information. We also have leaders capable of generating a huge following purely from the fear that dissention will result in death, and any attempt to organize against the dictator will result in being ousted by those who are either genuinely loyal, or fearful for their own death. Imagine this same type of situation, but with the ability to amplify anger, hatred, desperation, fear, disdain, etc. Even if there were an organization capable of resisting the emotional allomancy, the sheer number of followers would surely ensure a wide range of mistings, ferrings, and twinborn at their disposal. All of this while being capable of compounding mental quickness, which would allow them near-limitless ability to plan, predict, prepare, persuade and extensively analyze and revise propaganda material, flaws in defenses and escape plans, essentially this person would be able to have planning tenfold that of any dictator we've had so far, and they would have to trust fewer people due to their ability to do the bulk of the thinking themselves. Edit: Basically TLR's political machinations, without the supreme god-like being. Think how infrequently TLR needed to actually exercise his physical/magical prowess to rule.
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Nightwatcher Boon/Bane (Game)
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Granted, but you can't start time again. I wish to be able to let anyone experience my mind at will, and to be able to experience others' minds as well. -
Szeth in Jah Keved. Szeth vs. Kaladin, Adolin, Dalinar. Sazed holding the gates. Sazed vs. Marsh. Vin vs. Zane
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I thought it possible that, as a lot of people have theorized, the Listeners were a race that was around before the Humans on Roshar, and if that's the case, it is likely that before the Spren ever imitated the Honorblades with the Nahel bond, they had bonded (less strongly) and/or interacted with the listeners. When we're aware that the Listeners had been given forms by some kind of Spren, whether directly tied to Odium or Cultivation/Honor, we're not sure on the details. I definitely think that the Rhythms that the Listeners hear have something to do with the Cognitive realm, and the comments Alethi make on the strangeness of their emotion, or lack thereof, indicate some sort of fundamental difference in cognition and interaction. Perhaps the Listeners, due to being more strongly Cognitive beings themselves, cannot provide the Physical "sustenance" that a strongly Physical being such as a human provides, and as such, the "higher" Spren were not able to cross over as completely or successfully as with humans. Perhaps it is that the Listeners are able to bond more primal spren, such as Windspren, Flamespren, etc, similar to their trapping in the jewels for a fabrial, and due to the lack of Sapience, these more basic Spren could not provide significant surge control, rather providing changes in the physical form and capabilities, slight emotional changes, etc. I have also wondered how much of it has to do with Stormfather, and other "god" Spren, as they openly name Stormfather a traitor in one of the songs, and if I'm not mistaken, Eshonai ruminates on this while heading out into the storm.
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I would agree with Spool here, I think she is aware but prefers to metabolize it. It seems like she can retain Stormlight much better than a normal Surgebinder this way. If you remember the battle with Kaladin & Szeth, Kal pulls a decent amount of Stormlight from the pouches at Szeth's waist, which is necessitated by the fact that they can't hold Stormlight for any lengthy duration. I doubt that the 13 year old has thought it through to that extent, she's simply doing what she's used to, and what's easier for her, but I'm sure Brandon did this deliberately, and we will find her surprising foes and using it strongly to her advantage in the future.
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Thanks for the clarification. It's been a bit since I last read Mistborn. That makes a little more sense in the context of Sazed going to visit the tablet again before visiting the Well.
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Considering the fact that Ruin was able to change anything written, and could 'hear' anything spoken, it would be advantageous to be able to duplicate a memory without needing to tap a coppermind, write it down, store it, then read your memory, which at this point could be compromised by Ruin (or Preservation - though this would presumably be pretty out of character)
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Firstborn has been available on kindle for several years, if I'm not mistaken.
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Good info, thank you. Definite confirmation, that's nice to know, gives a little more info around the spren too.
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Do we know that Ym was a Truthwatcher? We know he had Progression, which means he's either Truthwatcher or Edgedancer, and Wyndle has said that he planned to bond with Ym. If you're basing this off of the differences between his spren and Lift's, keep in mind that Lift has her cognitive weirdness, which makes her perception of spren probably different. Edit: Sorry for double post, tried to edit the previous and it saved a new post..not sure what happened here.
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At this point, we really can't be sure. She is either Truthwatcher or Edgedancer. It's difficult to know, because we don't know a lot about either spren. We know that Cultivationspren is the spren of the Edgedancer, but we also know that Lift is partially within the Cognitive realm, meaning it's likely that she sees her spren differently than other Edgedancers. We also have never seen Renarin's spren, the other Truthwatcher we have seen. I would venture to guess Edgedancer, as, even though Stump was crotchety and seemed like a bit of a hag, she clearly cared for the children she took care of, which would be fitting for the Edgedancer's oath "I will remember those who have been forgotten."
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In 2017, I hope to bench press over 300lbs, deadlift over 500lbs, and squat over 400lbs. In 2017, the person below me will discover their inner passion for glitter-related crafts.
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I'd check out Reckoners series if you are looking for a Brandon Sanderson series to enjoy that's outside of the Cosmere series. I would also recommend that you read Warbreaker, Emperor's Soul, and Arcanum Unbounded, all of which are within the Cosmere. Warbreaker is available free on Brandon's website, and I believe Emperor's Soul is a part of Arcanum Unbounded, as well as a bunch of other Cosmere novellas and postscripts by "Khriss" a world hopper, which give us a little insight into in-world knowledge of the Cosmere by those who are believed to be most knowledgeable outside of shards.
