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Ah. No, I don't think that's possible It's possible the inquisitors were wrong about how to use atium since they thought it only stole allomantic temporal powers and weren't aware it could take anything, but personally I don't think Mistborn is a single power, but rather a collective set of a number of powers, since you can remove the powers individually. No, I'm a spool.
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Stormlight Archive Things
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Yeah, I don't see how harmonium hemalurgic spikes would work since it requires blood contact. All hemalurgic spikes steal a piece of a the spiriweb. Atium can steal any attribute. Are you talking about naturally? Naturally, being a fullborn, possessing all the powers of allomancy and feruchemy is impossible. The gene for allomancy interferes with the gene for feruchemy. Using the Well of Ascension however, Rashek (TLR) turned himself into a fullborn, and other methods, such as hemalurgy should theoretically make it possible to create someone analogous to a fullborn. Inquisitors were probably the closest we had.
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It would probably explode upon contact with your saliva or any aqueous membrane you have internally. And since it has the volatility of cesium supposedly, that would probably kill. So swallowing it as a metal wouldn't work, you would probably need some harmonium piercings, but if you sweat or someone throws water on you...
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Sadly, God says you're wrong.
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discussion An interesting WoB on Sel and Threnody
Spoolofwhool replied to Rasarr's topic in Cosmere Discussion
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Some Quick Cosmere Thoughts [possible spoilers AU]
Spoolofwhool replied to Zinnny's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Okay, thanks. I'm not sure who can change Theoryland though. I think I saw someone say that WeiryWriter can? -
Some Quick Cosmere Thoughts [possible spoilers AU]
Spoolofwhool replied to Zinnny's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I can't remember what the maps look like, but there's a WoB that says they are. So either the maps aren't showing the complete picture or Brandon changed his mind. -
The way I see, it seems like Honorblades function by physical contact bonding when materialized, and a more regular bond dismissed. So you have to be actually physically holding it in order to gain any abilities from it, unless you've dismissed it. It seems supported by the fact that the moment Szeth dropped his blade, all the stormlight fled from him, like he had lost the ability to surgebind and hold stormlight. A point against it though is that Nale did comment that the bond between Szeth and his blade had been severed, implying that there was more of a bond that what I suggested. WoB has it that Nale is using his own Honorblade. Possibly. Edgedancer Things
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It's called Cognitive Shadows and it's already a thing. I wouldn't be surprised if Kelsier does that. On the other hand, I'm fairly certain we're not going to see people back from the Beyond.
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Gyorn in Emperor's Soul
Spoolofwhool replied to The Unhallowed's topic in Elantris and Emperor's Soul
Good call. Never noticed that or made that connection.- 12 replies
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Question on a metal (minor spoilers for 2nd Era)
Spoolofwhool replied to Shqueeves's topic in Mistborn
It's weird though because looking at the dates of the release of BoM and this WoB, BoM was January 2016, and this was said May 2015, which means that BoM probably would've been basically done first draft, or already into revisions for release. -
Well evil is subjective so... I personally dislike using it. Now then, is the premise of the Diagram wrong? As you said, it's a moral debate. The pragmatist says the premise is right, that the survival of humanity must be ensured, no matter the cost, as by all accounts everyone might die otherwise. The "Journey before Destination" person says that it has a bad premise, since he asked for the capacity to save, not protect. Costs outweigh any benefits. Where am I? I'm not too sure. I'm more in favour of the costs to make sure the goal is reached, but the Diagram does appear to be too extreme. However, I can't disagree with its premise. Important things require someone to step up, take charge and make the hard calls, and saving a sample of humanity is no exception. Taravangian is taking the greatest burden of all, the burden of choice, and he is paying for the weight of that decision, as every drop blood that is spilt is on his hands, and haunts him until he dies. Based on what I've seen, he will never forgive himself for doing this. In any case, don't confuse that giant post I made previously to me agreeing with murdering people of low IQ or the Diagram. That was just me arguing against an argument people commonly used against the Diagram because I disagree with it. Also, I disagree with your assessment that he's wrong. What he has suggested while smart is logically valid, just morally sketchy.
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I like the idea of the Beyond, the fact that it's been set as that undeniable border where once you're past, you're gone. It gives us that understanding and mystery that if we don't say someone has gone to the Beyond, it possible that they can come back, and that if they have, then we know there are truly gone and it puts discussion to rest. Yes, in-Cosmere people are going to try to investigate the Beyond, but I'm fairly certain, based off of what Brandon has said, we're not going to see anything come of that, and definitely no one will come back from the Beyond.
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How I feel whenever people bring up the "Taravangian can't figure people when he's smarter, how can the Diagram be any good?" argument is that there is a fair gulf between Taravangian when he is a lot smarter than average, and when he wrote the Diagram. I don't see it as being too cold and calculating, because he could do a lot of good things when he's smarter than norm. No, what is the real problem is a form of naivety. It's the naivety a smart person gets when they understand something, then turn and explain it to a less smart person in a logical manner (for the smart person) and the less smart person just doesn't get it. I understand what it is, because it happens to me. It's a matter of being too focused on the bigger picture, that you miss the smaller picture, of those below you. However, the Taravangian of the Diagram doesn't have that naivety. He understood that he wouldn't be able to just go before people and tell that they would have to surrender their freedom to him so that he could save the world. Instead, he understands that those people with the smaller picture wouldn't understand and wouldn't accept, so left instructions to cut them out of the equation altogether. To create an example. Let's take a look at two cases, one in-Roshar, and one in real life. The Roshar example is where the Taravangian got the idea to raise the population average IQ by killing the people with low IQ. The RL example is that I'm working on a group project and I figure out how to do the challenging last part while the rest of the group doesn't. The smart Taravangian thinks he can solve this problem easily by just explaining it to the people, convincing them with logic, but never taking into account how they would feel about it. As such it doesn't work, because he could never logically convince people to commit suicide, especially since they're lower IQ and may not understand logic as well (I once discussed with someone that if he had used a religious approach, it might've worked). Analogously, in my project, I'm a nice person so I try to explain how everything works to my group. Unfortunately, I'm bad at explaining, in part because I can't understand where they're having trouble since it seems so easy to me (true story), so I'm wasting a lot of time, and unfortunately miss the due time for the project. Now on the other hand, the Diagram Taravangian understands that he would never be able to convince the people, so he doesn't bother. Instead, he probably just goes for the direct approach and figures out a way to execute everyone below the IQ threshold. Analogously, I understand that I probably wouldn't be able to properly explain how it works to my group, so I just go ahead and finish the project myself and submit it. In both cases, the problem and the reason for solution can be explained afterwards, though, I think it applies a bit better to the RL case. Anyhow, this was really spur-of-the-moment, so if I'm missing anything important, please tell. Or just downvote for all the errors.
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Question on a metal (minor spoilers for 2nd Era)
Spoolofwhool replied to Shqueeves's topic in Mistborn
Chromium destroys the target's burnable metals, any that they possess, either ingested or at least somewhat internalized. I'm not sure about metals just on the surface of the body. There's a WoB on the matter where if you used chromium on misting with piercings of their metals, the piercings would burn off. -
I don't think being a fullborn is an ability, it's just a term applied to people who have a specific set of abilities. If it were, or even being Mistborn was, then you could probably steal the entire set hemalurgically, which we know it can't, indicating that all powers are separate within the spiritweb, separate attributes.
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A single piece of nicrosil can store the ability to be a Fireheart ferring and a Skimmer ferring simultaneously, as separate charges. It's possible that that was possible because it was two different ferrings doing the storing, but isn't it believed that the Bands of Mourning were made by a Mistborn, and it appears to be a single piece of nicrosil woven throughout. That appeared to be the case with the medallions.
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He could already have pewterminds with stored charges. Also, he would still have some muscle mass. I don't the aluminum annihilating all muscle mass. True. But I feel like if multiple feruchemists can store charges in the same metal, and the nicrosilminds of the medallions could store two abilities concurrently, I don't see why you couldn't compartmentalize a tinmind and store different senses in the same metal.
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You can store multiple sense in the same tinmind, just like how a single piece of metal can store separate charges from multiple feruchemists. The charges are all separate but still count towards the limit of the metal. Aluminum coated weaponry would work, except you would have to cripple him in the first shot, otherwise he would be able to enact a large number of counter-measures. I don't think gold compounding causes no pain, it's just that Miles had undergone pain so much because he was so careless as a result of being able to compound gold that his body just lost the ability/need to feel pain. Even so, he might not feel pain naturally because he has gone through a similar experience as Miles, where his body has just naturally lost the ability to feel pain. In any case, even if he does, two spears through him didn't faze him, one bucket might not, especially since he can quickly mitigate the pain through feruchemy and allomancy.
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If he has pewterminds he could probably do a compounded tap and break the shell. Also, as I pointed out, it operates on the assumption that you could actually get enough aluminum poured on him, since all he would need is the first bucket before he locks down everyone around him with emotional allomancy.
