Brightshade the Cunning

My friend and I fell that there should be a better term for travel between shardworlds than "worldhopping". Do you?

As everyone knows, the passage of time and space within the physical realm is rigid, as in it cannot be altered. 5 seconds is 5 seconds is 5 seconds (at least within a certain shardworld), and 10 feet is 10 feet is 10 feet (with the same stipulation). This is a fact within the Cosmere, just like it is in real life. However, space is fluid withing the Cognitive Realm. With people having the ability to Elsecall and Worldhop, space must be fluid within the cognitive realm. After all, if what is the benefit of Worldhopping if it takes you the same amount of time to get between worlds in the Cognitive Realm as in the Physical Realm. As to time, it must be fluid in the Spiritual Realm. This is so because Forging works by changing the past of an object or person, and is known to affect the Spiritual Realm. This next bit is entirely theory as I don't know exactly how Hemalurgy works outside of the process within the Physical Realm, but Hemalurgy involves taking the powers of an individual and giving them to someone else. These abilities were given at a certain time, Allomancy specifically is given when snapped. So Hemalurgy could potentially involve changing the past of the individual so that they snapped, thus giving them the powers. This would of course only work while the spike is affecting a person. That's my idea of how time and space are fluid in the different realms, please don't judge me too much on my Hemalurgy statement, Hemalurgy is one of the magic systems I understand the least.

Thanks for the clarification of them being pulled to the Beyond rather than any of the realms after their Cognitive Shadow leaves the Cognitive Realm. However, when Lightsong remembers his vision from when he died the first time (I haven't finished my reread yet), I seem to recall that he didn't see any of the shards when he saw the vision. Also, I have an interesting tie off to my thoughts on the spiritual realm, specifically the passage of time their, I'm going to post this idea relatively soon so watch out for it and give any input you can think of.

Note: I haven't been very active within the 17th shard, and don't know if this idea has been brought up before. Also, this will jump back and forth between several Cosmere works, but will mainly focus on Warbreaker. Now to begin... I was recently rereading Warbreaker when I noticed something interesting. Specifically on page 129 when Llarimar is talking to Lightsong about why he would have returned As to how this origin is specifically is important, in Mistborn: Secret History We also get to see the Cognitive Realm from Jasnah and Shallan's point of views in the Stormlight Archives, essentially a world filled with an ocean of spheres. With the way the Cognitive Realm is shown on these shardworlds, it can be seen that the Cognitive Realm mirrors the Physical Realm and is where people go after dying, but only temporarily in most cases. As to how the amount of time someone remains within the Cognitive Realm affects the origin of the Returned, we know that after a few moments, minutes tops, the soul, or Cognitive Shadow, moves on to the Spiritual Realm. Within Warbreaker, when Llarimar reveals Ligtsong's former life, he mentions that they found him dead, and then he Returned. This means that Lightsong had been dead for a relatively long amount of time, as he had died at sea and they had had to recover his body. Most likely within this circumstance, Lightsong had moved on to the Spiritual Realm, and then Returned. Another reason to support Lightsong's journey to the Spiritual Realm, is the perception of time. As shown in both shardworlds, time moves parallel between the cognitive and physical realms. This means that the future couldn't be seen in either of these. With this knowledge of the realms, anything that does not play into the present status of the Cosmere, must occur within the Spiritual Realm. This is supported within the Emperor's Soul as the magic system, forging, works by changing the past of the person or object being affected, and has also been mentioned as pertaining to the Spirtiual Realm. With this idea in mind, the quote from earlier mentions the future, which is not the present, and therefore would likely occur within the Spiritual Realm. I must now humbly admit that this is a theory, and is simply based upon what was seemingly a revelation to me as I was reading. However, I do ask that you take this seriously, and take whatever thoughts it inspires to new heights, and maybe even offer more evidence to support this theory, or tweak it slightly to make it fit better within the cosmere.

I'm late to this thread but I seriously doubt that all Epics are gifters because of Regalia. She was so interested in making David a water Epic and she made a bomb from Obliteration. For David she had to use Calamity, and it still failed. As for the bomb, she required advanced technology not having Obliteration gift his powers. It seems to me that based on these two points gifters are rare and it's not just that most epics don't use their gifting capabilities.

They are almost certainly exaggerating because we know that they have foods with lots of different spices (hence the extreme difference between the sweetness of women's food and the spiciness of men's food) so anything that is lacking those would already seem bland and tasteless, soulcasting just takes it to another level.

You feel lethargic when you use them Time is like a duck

It could be argued that the energy while powering the gauss gun might also be the projectile in a different form.

While you argument for the increase in power is logical, there are a couple of flaws. First, part of gaining access to certain powers is part of an oath, such as lift being able to use regrowth. While this obviously doesn't affect abrasion as she could use that before the oath, the oath doesn't actually seem to increase the power of a surge, just add new abilities. Second, it appears that oaths increase your ability to use surges (makes it easier) rather than increasing their strength, suchh as with Kaladin speaking the second oath the lashings were the same as before, he just seemed to find it more natural.Also, thanks for the upvote.

Thanks for the warning about the cookies. Coincidentally I also happen to be going to said release party in Orem, it seems like it will be a pretty amazing experience.

This is not necessarily true, as feruchemy and allomancy happen to be able to enhance each other, yet they are different forms of investiture as mentioned in the Ars Arcanum of Shadows of Self,

The energy is technically the ammunition

I'm not sure that the surge of abrasion works that way. We only see it used to affect an individual (i.e. lift). And while it might be possible for the surge of abrasion to help them to escape the whirlpool, the amount of investiture necessary to affect the entire ship is probably well beyond the capability of anyone to use, even with a spren to stabilize them.

So I am relatively new to Sanderson (been reading his works for a little over a year now) but I have read all of his cosmere novels (still missing a few of the novellas) and I have read the Reckoners series and The Arithmatist. I am a huge fan of his and hope to find a lot of interesting discussions here with all you 17th sharders.