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@bo.montier, yes I would still consider that to be someone "connected" to the sword though. Such a book would presumably be written by someone relatively close to the person' it's about. My problem with Jasnah isn't that she's not "close enough" to the sword. She's a great guess as far as that's concerned. My problem with her is the line about other people being smarter. @Isaiah Zayth Taravangian is an interesting guess... Though I don't like him because of the heretic comments. Taravangian could come out as a heretic for sure. So there's plenty of potential. But right now he plays along with Vorinism and the ardents. It's a bit of a leap to assume this might change I think. @Alderant Yes, this is a good point. Some connection to the blade that will be meaningful. As I mentioned towards the end, I think it's a bit of a hurdle to imagine the book being written after the story. I'm not trying to absolutely cut people out. I'm just saying that these are my opinions of the best candidate with the knowledge we currently have. Re: "near-death experiences"... I'm specifically referring to something like what we have seen in other cosmere books. Where a character may die, appear in the cognitive realm, and then come back for one reason or another. I believe that's what the epigraph is describing. Something about the wording. About the emphasis on death, and about other people thinking this person is dead. This isn't what happened with Jasnah. At least, not in the specific instance we're talking about.

I disagree, in this case. I think you have to claim responsibility for Sadeas if you claim the Blade. You can't say, "I found this and I'm keeping it, but I didn't kill him." This isn't a battlefield, where death happens and the first person to pick up the Shards is the winner. Assassination is different. I think Ialai would make a claim that they don't belong to you, and I think she would have enough support that your only options are to turn them over or have them forcibly taken from you.

Amaram's not greedy. Amaram's a psychopath who will do whatever he thinks will usher the Heralds and return power to the Vorin Church. For the good of mankind, as he sees it. He's really quite selfless, I think. Just... selfless with a bad, misguided purpose. I suspect Adolin doesn't want to look for the sword because it would be suspicious. There's no reason to think that the murderer wouldn't keep the blade, so he has no great excuse to go digging around on balconies below the crime scene. Plus if anyone finds it they'd be obligated to return it to Ialai, I think. Adolin is probably just hoping someone else finds it and runs away with.

Based on what we know now, the author is: a widely known Vorin heretic old enough to refer to their "youth" writing a book called Oathbringer had a near-death experience which let him/her glimpse Shadesmar and which others are aware of I think it's got to be somebody at least loosely connected to Oathbringer the Shardblade. It's a notable, famous name. You don't write a book with that title unless you intend to for your audience to make a connection there and unless you have the connection for people to say, "Oh, yeah it makes sense for this person to write a book with that title." Especially given the book is so blatantly controversial in nature. "Oathbringer by Shallan Davar? Who is this girl and why is she writing a book with that name?" Nah... The only exception I can see to this is if it's the Sunmaker and the book name isn't directly based on the Blade. I don't think it's Adolin or Renarin because they're too young to refer to their youths as a thing from the past. I don't think it's Jasnah because of this line: "I have no doubt that you are smarter than I am." I also tend to think the writing isn't quite as eloquent as Jasnah would make it. I can see an argument for Evi, but it's not very strong. Her heresy was not particularly outspoken or surprising, from what we've seen. I can only see two great options: Dalinar and the Sunmaker. Navani might also work, but I don't see anything compelling to suggest her. The most peculiar part is the one about the near-death experience. I really don't see any character who fits this. I believe some argue that it's Jasnah because of this, but that doesn't fit at all. That wasn't a near-death experience. That was Stormlight healing and Elsecalling. And the bit about "some who saw further" just doesn't make any sense. At the same time, I don't see any other characters who fit this. Szeth is the only one, and he doesn't fit for several other reasons explained above. So I think we're either reading something from the Sunmaker (whose past will be revealed and become relevant soon) or something from Dalinar (or Navani?) that comes a bit later. Biggest problem with Sunmaker is we can't see how his story would connect at this point. Biggest problem with Dalinar (& Navani) is that I'l be a little surprised if Brandon does ANOTHER "resurrection". Plus, with the Desolations returning, how the heck is there time to write a book?

They're also here: http://www.coppermind.net/wiki/Oathbringer/Epigraphs (side note, please don't put other Oathbringer content on Coppermind at this point)

Starla, yes this is exactly the other half of the problem I can't figure out. I wanted to do the math again thoroughly, but you made the point very succinctly. The time zone difference from Yeddaw to Hearthstone should be considered. I have that as about 4.5 hours (about 80 degrees longitude). And for no axial tilt, sunset should happen at the same time. So the Everstorm hit Yeddaw 4.5 hours after sunset Hearthstone time and then Hearthstone at noon the next day. That gives about 10.5 hours of travel time. There's a bit of wiggle in that. Exact time it hit Yeddaw is unknown, and Kaladin's comment about noon doesn't mean noon exactly. But it should be correct within a couple of hours. So 10.5 hours to cross 80 degrees longitude gives under 48 hours. Less than 2.5 days to circle the planet. The math is a bit more complicated if you consider the Everstorm travelling a great circle path rather than moving a constant X degrees longitude per hour. But it doesn't yield wildly different results, I think. It's possible that the latitude/longitude numbers I've got are wrong. I'm assuming the map has 180 degrees of latitude and 360 degrees of longitude. They could theoretically use a different unit of angular measure. But one of our other maps has the latitude numbers marked, and I don't think this is the case. But then... I guess slower speeds over the ocean doesn't have to be inconsistent with that interlude observation I referenced, if their data is based solely on the arrival times at a single location.

I wondered about that, but I think it's got to be the same day. Putting my thoughts down for anyone else wondering the same thing. It's noted that the Everstorm moves slowly, relative to the highstorm, and it takes maybe 2 or 3 days to cross the continent. I've always gotten the sense that highstorms take less than a day to cross the whole thing. Even if it takes a day or so, it shouldn't take more than a few of hours to travel from the coast to Alethkar. The meeting with Ialai happens in the afternoon in Urithiru, which is about 3 hours behind Alethkar. That would mean the highstorm took maybe an hour or two to travel from New Natanan to Alethkar. If you assume Shallan's chapter was late afternoon and Kaladin's chapter is late afternoon the following day, that means the highstorm took nearly a day just to go from New Natanan to Alethkar. I don't think that fits with what we know about them or with them being faster than Everstorms.

Welcome to the forums. Yeah, the link to a specific post is shown in the little share button on the top right, or if you use the timestamp button on the top left. And yeah, I've wondered about that size number as well. I think it's a safe assumption that she's referring to radius/diameter. That's a more directly useful number and it's easier to measure. But yes, it could be referring to volume. Hmm... We did just get a map of Roshar with longitude and latitude shown. Perhaps it would be possible to take some known distances and see what radius those would imply. The problem is we don't know how Rosharan units of measurement compare to our own... But they might help support one interpretation or the other. Something to look into... This is all something I've been stewing over for a while. Just finally decided to say something about it.

Aw, you didn't be to go through all that unfortunately. The math looks right, but I think the mass estimate is wrong. Where was that number from? This whole thread is pretty put of date. I don't think it got serious attention after WoR, and Arcanum Unbounded gave a few ore tidbits. AU canonized the 0.7g gravity and told us Roshar is 0.9 the "standard" size. (i.e. Earth). So the radius is 5740km. From there we can use that equation to calculate the mass: m = 0.7g (5740km)² / G = 3.389×10²⁴ kg So 70% surface gravity, 90% Earth size, 57% Earth mass. I think that comes to 78% Earth density, which is reasonable. We can almost calculate the semi-major axes of the orbits, now that we know the mass of Roshar, by using the equation for the orbital period. Got to make a guess for the length of a day... I think there's a bit of ambiguity as to how long it is, but the error in assumptions ight be small enough not to really matter. Need to check. And if someone really wants to go the extra mile, we might be able to use Peter's comments on how long they're in the sky to get a rough guess of their apsides (high and low points of the orbits). That'd be a bit trickier to do, but I think there may be enough for a respectable guess. All of this thanks to a single number in AU. I searched through WoR and there's a lot of good references I'm there that haven't been picked up as well. Particularly more insight on their "phases", sizes in the sky, and rise/set times. Though at this point perhaps it's best to wait for Oathbringer before doing a deep dive...

The map that Brandon tweeted in the Oathbringer dust jacket confirmed some suspicions about the size of Roshar. The bulk of the continent spans about 140 degrees longitude, meaning it wraps more than 1/3 of the way around the planet. We know that Salas appears just after sunset on the Shattered Plains, and this got me thinking... When do the moons rise for people in the far West? The sun doesn't set in Shinovar for another 1/3 of a day after it does in the East. Wouldn't they be rising when it's still daytime? Care to comment on this observation @PeterAhlstrom?

EDIT: Leaving the original post beneath, but wanted to note some changes... Updated analysis in comment post below: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/61693-ob-everstorm-timing/#comment-645602 Some comments about this original post: With Oathbringer out, we now know that the Everstorm (typically) comes in precise intervals. I got word from Peter via PM that the precise interval they used is 9.1 days. I also got word that the 10-day number referenced below (concerning Shallan's night at the bars) is probably in error. Lastly, the map below has some errors. First is that the latitude/longitude lines on the dust jacket map are scaled wrong--the digital version on Brandon's website is supposedly more accurate. Second is that the lines do not indicate degrees (i.e. 360 degrees/circle). Peter has confirmed that there are 200 "squares" horizontally and 100 "squares" vertically in the online version. All of these points should explain the confusion raised below. ORIGINAL POST: I started another topic that got into this topic, but I think it's time for a fresh one now that we have a few key pieces of information. I'm having trouble seeing how all of this fits, so I'd like to see if anyone else sees the solution. First important piece of information is the second passing of the Everstorm in Alethkar that we heard about in Chapter 23. The second is this map, which I've marked with latitude/longitude and a few notable locations: I've put together this timeline of events: Day 0: Everstorm summoned on the Shattered Plains in the afternoon Day 3: Lightday Day 8: Everstorm passes Yeddaw around sunset, Everstorm passes Urithiru after sunset Day 9: Everstorm passes Hearthstone around noon Day 16: Everstorm passes Alethkar (time unknown) I feel pretty good about these dates. The Battle of Narak was 3 days before Lightday. Sadeas's body was discovered 6 days after the battle. The Everstorm arrives in Urithiru 2 days after that. (6+2=8) Kaladin left 2 days after Lightday and the Everstorm hit at noon on the 4th day. (3+2+4=9) Shallan's night as Veil was 10 days after Sadeas was discovered (per Peter, and it fits with other numbers). The Highstorm was the next day. And Kaladin says the Everstorm came again the day before that. (6+10+1-1=16) Other than Peter's comment, all of these are straight from the text and don't leave much room for interpretation as far as I can see. (all sources located here) I've been assuming that the Everstorm moves at a constant speed, and I've recently recalled that one of the no-yet-released Interludes suggests that this is the case. One of those which Brandon did a reading of. I'll put details about this in spoilers, for those curious: As you can see above, however, the timing above doesn't appear to be consistent. Hearthstone is about 1.5 hours behind the Shattered Plains when you consider time zones. Put it together and you see it took >9 days to circle the planet once and 7 days (plus or minus half a day, we don't know precisely when it hit Alethkar the second time) to circle the second time. The problem goes even deeper when you look at travel time across the continent. You can see some of the math for that in the other thread I linked. (need to look at those numbers again with this new map, but the one I had before was pretty close) Any thoughts?

We got mention of the Everstorm passing again in Chapter 23, so I wanted to update here... I've got this laid out in my timeline. The Everstorm hit Alethkar the first time around noon on week 2 day 2. That's 6 days after Lightday, about 9 days after the Battle of Narak. Maybe more like 8.75 days depending on the time difference (haven't had a chance to revisit those since the dust jacket map was revealed) and the exact times that the storm spawned and hit Alethkar. The Everstorm hits Alethkar the second time on week 3 day 4. That's 7 days after the last. We don't know exactly when it hit. Could be at the end of the day (7.5 day difference) or very early in the morning (6.5 day difference) assuming the first one hit exactly at noon. In any case, I unfortunately think it's pretty clear that the time is somewhat variable.

There are two possibilities for how all of this works, and both of them have an explanation for this: There is no "correct" model. They are merely two ways of thinking about it. Windrunners who subscribe to Model A aren't performing subconscious Lashes. They are doing things exactly as you describe. Windrunners who subscribe to Model B would have to perform upward lashes, yes. They would do so consciously. It all comes down to their understanding. The two groups are actually doing different things to accomplish the same goal. This is essentially what @Calderis was arguing on Discord, I believe. ...or... One of the model is "more right" than the other. This is what you're assuming. If it's true AND if Model B is the one which is "more right", then you are correct. I am assuming that Model A Windrunners perform subconscious Lashes upward. I don't see a problem with this however. I don't believe that the Lashes are as precise as Szeth's language makes them out to be. Brandon is very kind to give us nice, clean whole numbers to work with. But I don't think it's always that clean. Consider my example in which you wish to fall at 1/2g sideways. I find it incredibly unlikely that Szeth mentally calculates the precise angle and magnitude of the Lash required to do this. His actions would be intuitive. They would be a result of practice. So a WIndrunner's actions are ALWAYS going to be filtered through some measure of Intent. They don't think about the physics. They think about the end result that they want, and naturally manipulate the Surge accordingly. Szeth's mental explanation is nothing more than that top level of user input. What he's actually doing is more complicated. The weird thing here would be Stormlight usage. Under Model A, Szeth uses 1 unit of Stormlight to accelerate upwards at 1g and 2 units of Stormlight to accelerate upwards at 2g. Under Model B, Szeth uses 2 units of Stormlight to accelerate upwards at 1g and 3 units of Stormlight to accelerate upwards at 2g. If one model is "more right" than the other, then we will measure the same amount of Stormlight being used, no matter what model Szeth believes. Unfortunately, we don't have enough information from the books to determine what's happening here. I personally find it highly likely that Szeth doesn't have a precise idea of how these actions compare. Most people don't have a sense of a "unit" of Stormlight. He'd just be eyeballing it. He's not thinking, "Hmm... I'm going to need precisely 3 diamond chips worth of Stormlight to perform this action." He's thinking, "I've got a full diamond mark. That'll be enough." And on top of all this, who's to say Szeth hasn't noticed a difference? Maybe he realizes that the second upward Lashing takes less Stormlight, and he just explains it away. ("Well of course the first Lashing took more. I had to escape gravity with it.") Therefore, either way I think this problem is explained. I think this is all answered above, implicitly. But to elaborate... In one case, Szeth is merely doing precisely what he believes to be doing. It works that way because he expects it to work that way. Someone else might have to describe and do things differently, simply because he understands things differently. In the other case (the one where Model B is "more right"), Szeth is simply explaining things in his own words. His own "notation" as Brandon referred to it in the WoB. What he is actually doing we can only see from the end result. So yes, his Lashings may involve subconsious aspects concerning the precise vectors required. I see nothing wrong with this. The only measurable difference would be the amount of Stormlight being used. And I don't think we have enough data to argue solidly either way. IF Model B is "more right" then I would suspect that Szeth either (a) doesn't have a precise sense of how much Stormlight he's using or (b) Szeth realizes the "first" Lashing tends to take extra Stormlight and he just hasn't spoken about it. (I don't think there's enough in the books to assert that "one Lashing" correlates to a precise amount of Stormlight.)

So there's two ways of looking at this that I can see. We'll call this Model A and the other Model B. For simplicity, I'm just going to use "g" to represent the acceleration of gravity on Roshar. I'm also going to refer to "units" of Stormlight--we need information to determine how much that would actually be. Model A How it works: Your body is, by default, "Lashed" to the ground at 1g. When you Lash yourself, you overwrite that default Lashing. One Lashing overwrites the default Lashing on your entire body. Multiple Lashings after the first have nothing to overwrite--they just add on top. Partial Lashings only partially overwrite the default Lashing. (i.e. 1/2 of a Lashing only overwrites the default Lashing for half your body's mass) Each Lashing adds 1g of acceleration. Each Lashing costs X units of Stormlight. Support: This is the model Szeth uses. This is the model Khriss uses in the Ars Arcanum. Model B How it works: Your body is always Lashed to the ground. That is, gravity is always acting on your body. When you Lash yourself, you simply add another acceleration vector on top of everything else. There is no absolute definition of what constitutes "one Lashing". For simplicity, let's say each Lashing adds 1g of acceleration. Each Lashing costs Y units of Stormlight. Support: This is, I think, how a technically minded person with no understanding of realmatics would view things. This WoB, which suggests that more technically minded individuals would object to Szeth's terminology: (spoiler tag for length -- no spoilers, WoB is from 2016) Simple Comparison This first set of examples demonstrates how the models behave similarly. I want to fall into the sky at 1g: Model A uses one Lashing. One Lashing upward will overwrite gravity and accelerate me upwards at 1g. Model B uses two Lashings. One Lashing upward will counter gravity and the second will accelerate me upwards at 1g. I want to be weightless: Model A uses 1/2 a Lashing. One half of a Lashing upward will overwrite half of the default gravitational pull with 1g of acceleration. Half my body being pulled down at 1g and half of my body being pulled up at 1g balances and I'm weightless. Model B uses one Lashing. One Lashing upward counters gravity and leaves me weightless. Note that both models could achieve the same thing with additional Lashings (one up and one down in Model A, two up and one down in Model B, etc.). These are simply less efficient uses of Stormlight. I want to fall sideways at 1g: Model A uses one Lashing. One Lashing sideways will overwrite gravity and accelerate me sideways at 1g. Model B uses two Lashings. One Lashing upward will counter gravity and the second to the side will accelerate me sideways at 1g. I want to reduce my weight by half: Model A uses 1/4 a Lashing. One fourth a Lashing upward will overwrite 1/4 of my mass with 1g of acceleration. This balances with 1/4 of my remaining mass and I'm left with 1/2 my mass pulled downward at 1g. Model B uses 1/2 a Lashing. One half of a Lashing upward added to my existing 1g acceleration down leaves me with 1/2g of acceleration down. Noticing a pattern here? In all of these simple cases, Model B requires twice as many Lashings as Model A. But don't get caught up on the terminology there. This doesn't necessarily imply Model A is twice as efficient, because we have defined "one Lashing" under Model B somewhat arbitrarily. In the WoB above, Brandon himself emphasizes that the wording is a matter of notation. What really matters is the Intent of the Surgebinder. What Szeth says is "one Lashing" another may consider to be two Lashings. So how do we make a more tangible comparison? We need to look at Stormlight usage. There are two key interpretations here: Interpretation 1 Every 1g worth of Lashing uses 1 unit of Stormlight (i.e. X = Y = 1). Under this interpretation, in light of the examples above, Model A is twice as efficient with Stormlight as Model B. This makes sense because we can directly compare the number of Lashings involved. Interpretation 2 It's not the amount of applied acceleration that matters, but rather the end result. We're effectively using Stormlight to create potential energy, or two warp spacetime, and so a given amount of Stormlight should produce similar effects in each model. Under this interpretation, in light of the examples above, Model A and Model B use comparable amounts of Stormlight. We would say that X=1 but Y = 1/2. Or perhaps it would be preferable to say X = Y = 1, but go back and redefining "one Lashing" under Model B to produce 2g of acceleration (as Brandon did at the end of the WoB). Again, this is arbitrary. The point is that similar amounts of Stormlight produce similar end results. I personally don't like the first interpretation, because it implies someone with a technical mindset is going to need twice the Stormlight to do anything. That's a significant difference. But I'm also biased in that I subscribe to Model B, and want it to work as well (or better than Model A). The only way to test these two interpretations would be to study two characters in the books who follow different models of thought. See how much Stormlight they require to do similar things, under their own models. Right now, we don't have this and can only speculate. Complex Comparison I keep saying that the models behave "similarly" because it turns out they actually diverge under more complicated examples. Using our original terminology, the 2-to-1 ratio breaks down. In each case I have studied, it breaks down in favor of Model B. Let's look at some examples: I want to fall into the sky at 2g: Model A uses two Lashings. One Lashing upward will overwrite gravity and accelerate me upwards at 1g. A second to increase acceleration to 2g. Model B uses three Lashings. One Lashing upward will counter gravity, a second will accelerate me upwards at 1g, a third to accelerate me upwards at 2g. Additional acceleration continues this trend. (i.e. 2:3, 3:4, 4:5, etc.) Equal numbers of Lashings are required as we approach infinity, so to speak. I want to fall sideways at 1g: We looked at this before, but under Model B there are savings to be found if we Lash at an angle. Model A uses one Lashing. One Lashing sideways will overwrite gravity and accelerate me sideways at 1g. Model B uses 1.4 Lashings. Instead of two orthogonal Lashings we perform a single 1.4x Lashing at a 45 degree angle. The net result is 1g upward (to counter gravity) and 1g sideways. That's a 1:1.4 ratio. I want to fall sideways at 1/2g: The math required for Model A gets hairy with this one. Model A uses 5/8 a Lashing. The math on this one gets a little hairy, so I won't dive deep. 5/8 a Lashing at some angle up and sideways will give 1/2 a Lashing sideways and 3/8 a Lashing upward (to counter the remaining 3/8 default gravity). Model B uses 1.12 Lashings. That's the resultant vector of 1 Lashing up and 1/2 a Lashing sideways. That's a 1:1.79 ratio. Conclusions Both models are totally consistent and valid explanations of what we observe in the books. The characters tend toward Model A, but the characters also aren't physicists. Brandon has confirmed that Model B is valid and will be addressed as such (however briefly) in Oathbringer. Intent and understanding are key. Two characters can perform different Lashings to accomplish the same thing, if they approach from different understandings. The important comparison to be made between these models is a matter of Stormlight efficiency. Under "Interpretation 1" we see that Model A is twice as efficient with Stormlight usage under basic cases. Model B makes up some of that difference in complicated cases and becomes equivalent to Model A as the number of Lashings approaches infinity. Under "Interpretation 2" we see that Model A and model B use equal amounts of Stormlight under basic cases. Model B is slightly more efficient under complicated cases and becomes twice as efficient as Model A as the number of Lashings approaches infinity.

Please post any Oathbringer typos you come across in this thread. Give a clear explanation of what the typo is along with a reference of where it can be found. This thread will be unlocked on November 14, 2017. NOTE: Oathbringer Preview chapters posted by Tor contain typos that are NOT in the final version of the book. Do not post typos which you have found anywhere prior to the full release of the book.

We don't have a glyph for Thalath I think? And last I checked, nobody had cracked which highprince glyph was Ruthar's. (There's a guess, but no clear confirmation)

Yes, that's how it's shown in the artwork. e.g. https://brandonsanderson.com/beta/wp-content/gallery/stormlight-1-art-gallery/twok_navani-1-webres.jpg

Oh oh! Yeah... I'm not sure of there's a better solution in this format. Problem is you'd need to tie the error to each event rather than next to the date... Hmm... I couldn't think of a good way to do that before, but now I'm wondering... I could insert a carriage return between events, references, etc. rather than spaces/commas. That would visually separate them. Then I could do the same for errors. I'll test this out. Might not be so hard to implement. Edit: @DiamondMind What do you (or others) think about this? I made it put blank lines between separate events. If nothing else I really like this because it reveals which event(s) are connected to which chapter(s) and reference(s). And then it also let's put multiple error numbers in. The alignment isn't perfect. Don't know if it can be done better this way. Turning off line wrap would fix it, but then event info would have to be limited in length or the cell would be impractically wide. The error numbers are particularly out of alignment because I have them a smaller font size... but it would take some convincing for me to make them bigger. They look too distracting to me otherwise. I could, alternatively, move the error columns further to the right I suppose. But I think I'm happy with this?

So far it's been pretty good. Shallan and Dalinar have been a little vague, but not terribly so. And yep. I mean, some of that is intentional. If event X could be moved 5 days later and event Y is one day after X, then it can also move 5 days later from where it is. Someone might think X can shift while Y stays in place, putting them out of order. But that's their fault for misinterpreting. The problem comes when, for example, there's a fixed event Z a few days after X which we know happens after Y. This throws an extra limit on Y's error (or even on the date itself). This isn't terribly difficult to handle, if I write the error range as a function so that it automatically adjusts. I did this on a few occasions. But that limit also flows uphill back to X's error, and that's not an easy thing to pick up. I'll get to it eventually.

Thanks! The first was supposed to be the interlude before. Just forgot to update the text.

Yeah, it can still go there. I do have a separate spreadsheet for that. Though, I'm also not sure how much further that can go. When I get a chance to look closer at this new map inside the Oathbringer cover I may compare that with the map I was using. I suspect what I had was pretty close. Which is to say that there's some unknowns concerning the Everstorm path/speed that we just can't answer yet.

Great question! I'm probably going to put those in. I almost did today, but I need to do a thorough scouring of the last 6 chapters anyways. So I figured I can pick those up when I get a chance to do that. Since there's so many other big things going on over the same days... I might leave out the first (less notable) murder, and just include the copycat case. Will have to think about that. The first two books aren't quite that detailed yet, but one day I will probably add small things like this in those as well. (Those timelines aren't as compact as Oathbringer has been so far, so there's probably less of that kind of thing.) I will say that I probably won't include small things like this if we don't have an exact day. For example, if the murder happened "several days ago" and it's not a significant plot point then I'd probably leave it out. Seems silly to put approximate dates for random events with little relevance. (especially if there's other meaningful stuff already on the same dates)

Yes! Please let me know if you see anything that looks different!

I wanted to put together a detailed timeline for Stormlight. After a few weeks of lunch breaks, this is what I've got to show for it! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lhDsguAXEFT8hxHDrJ7wr8ht7GV35RbHxKX9qkD6bHM/edit#gid=2005334307 There's a really good timeline for Words of Radiance out there, but nothing that pulled in events from ALL the books into one place. The main reason for this is simple... The Way of Kings chronology isn't nearly as detailed or ironed out! Many of the dates in this timeline are based on a LOT of assumptions. Don't take them at face value. I've done my best to speculate on how much error is possible, and you'll see that listed next to the dates. But those numbers could easily be wrong as well! The goal wasn't to figure everything out perfectly, however. That's just not going to happen. My real goal here was just to do the best I could with the information we've got. And if new information comes to light that paints a better picture we can incorporate that! Ultimately, my hope is that this is a fun and useful tool. For the most part, it will help you get a general idea of how events fit together. Again, just be aware that it's probably got lots of errors. It's still a work in progress. The whole thing needs to be reviewed and cleaned up. If you have comments or questions, please feel free to share them! If you'd like to help me check the whole thing over in detail then let me know. I'd like to add a bit more functionality as well, concerning dates that are dependent on one another. But this is more or less the final form. Well, sort of... I'm making a separate thread to the FULL version, which includes Edgedancer and Oathbringer spoilers: Special thanks goes to @WeiryWriter. He put together the incredibly detailed timeline for Words of Radiance. A lot of that work is captured here and it was the basis for my own work. He also put together a list of TWoK timeline notes, which I used extensively. Other people may be have involved in that WoR timeline effort as well. Thanks to all of you!

I wanted to put together a detailed timeline for Stormlight. After a few weeks of lunch breaks, this is what I've got to show for it! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zq5bJoKE83ggDCjH43i1hZi0CIpB2iAx7v37zQPVFK0/edit#gid=856252766 There's a really good timeline for Words of Radiance out there, but nothing that pulled in events from ALL the books into one place. The main reason for this is simple... The Way of Kings chronology isn't nearly as detailed or ironed out! Many of the dates in this timeline are based on a LOT of assumptions. Don't take them at face value. I've done my best to speculate on how much error is possible, and you'll see that listed next to the dates. But those numbers could easily be wrong as well! The goal wasn't to figure everything out perfectly, however. That's just not going to happen. My real goal here was just to do the best I could with the information we've got. And if new information comes to light that paints a better picture we can incorporate that! Ultimately, my hope is that this is a fun and useful tool. For the most part, it will help you get a general idea of how events fit together. Again, just be aware that it's probably got lots of errors. It's still a work in progress. The whole thing needs to be reviewed and cleaned up. If you have comments or questions, please feel free to share them! If you'd like to help me check the whole thing over in detail then let me know. I'd like to add a bit more functionality as well, concerning dates that are dependent on one another. But this is more or less the final form. Special thanks goes to @WeiryWriter. He put together the incredibly detailed timeline for Words of Radiance. A lot of that work is captured here and it was the basis for my own work. He also put together a list of TWoK timeline notes, which I used extensively. Other people may be have involved in that WoR timeline effort as well. Thanks to all of you!