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Bands of Mourning vs other types of investiture
Kingsdaughter613 replied to zpo73's topic in Cosmere Discussion
One important thing to consider, at least with Kelsier, is that he was an allomancer first. That means he’s likely to carry around beads of metal that he’s stored abilities in, allowing him to burn them as needed. Which gives him a lot more leeway on his abilities and stores. Everyone else we’ve seen has been a feruchemist before being an allomancer. A feruchemist thinks in terms of storage; an allomancer thinks in terms of burning. This was noted when discussing why the Southerners use medallions instead of bands. A feruchemist wouldn’t think in terms of easily removed metal; an allomancer would. Even the spearhead is something you can hold AND it doubles as a practical weapon. So odds are Kelsier carries around vials of Feruchemical storage on the off chance he needs them, because at his core he’s an allomancer and that’s the kind of thing an allomancer would do. Besides, if there’s anyone who would find a way to compound in combat, it’s Kelsier. Which, yes, means he could defeat Vin if she held the Bands. Whether or not anyone could defeat him... (Shards not included.) -
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Kingsdaughter613 replied to Kidpen's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
The second! Great job! -
Nowhere, The Lost Metal, and the last Skyward book too.
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Mraize doesn’t need his Aviar to riot; Kell could have just given the GBs allomancy medallions. And why assume it was Mraize influencing Taravangian in the warcamps? Leaving aside the GBs not wanting an Odium victory, it’s far more likely that Cultivation was the influencer here. Even if it was a GB, they have many members aside from Mraize. It could be someone else entirely - if that’s even what this is.
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Alloys tend not to be very specific ratios either, actually. For example, there are many forms of steel alloy - including cast iron! Allomantic steel has a specific alloy, but most steel is just any mix of carbon and iron in varying amounts.
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Kingsdaughter613 replied to Kidpen's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Nope, sorry! This person is avaricious. This person is a traitor. This person is functionally immortal. This person is quite fluid. -
Bands of Mourning vs other types of investiture
Kingsdaughter613 replied to zpo73's topic in Cosmere Discussion
They don’t need to dodge the blade. A Fullborn can theoretically kill a Spren with Leeching. So if the sword hits, it’s the sword that will be hurting. And you can’t summon the blade while being Leeched anyway. And there’s nothing preventing a Fullborn from using F-speed while burning Chromium either. All of which is irrelevant if Stormlight can’t heal beheadings. It still takes time for Jezrian and Nale to act. F-Speed allows someone to move faster than the eye can see. That’s about 1/250th of a second. We’ve never seen anyone perform a lashing with anything near that speed. We’re talking ‘faster than anyone can breathe in Stormlight’ because Marasi was moving so fast the people around her were motionless. And Paalm moved so fast she was invisible. (You breathe about 12 to 20 times a minute, btw. Much slower than the eye processes.) They were moving faster than a human could breathe. Which actually means Radiants are rust from the outset, now that I think about it. A Fullborn will kill them before they breathe in Stormlight. https://www.visiondirect.co.uk/blog/how-fast-can-we-see The above for how fast you need to move in order for the eye not to process you. -
Bands of Mourning vs other types of investiture
Kingsdaughter613 replied to zpo73's topic in Cosmere Discussion
The problem is that it takes time for Windrunners to get up to speed. They’re essentially falling and that takes a few seconds time. Time they don’t have. Especially when you consider that Fullborn also have Bendalloy. And if you paid attention I said a Fullborn would use speed to allow them to Leech a Radiant. And Leeching is instantaneous for most forms of Kinetic Investiture, from what we’ve seen. No Stormlight=dead Radiant. And a Radiant will run out of Stormlight before a Fullborn runs out of metal. Please note that a Fullborn could hypothetically kill a Radiant Spren. You do not want to try hitting a Fullborn burning Chromium with a Shardblade. It would likely be extremely painful for the Spren. Also: does Stormlight heal a beheading? -
The last thing Leras did was point to the Northeast. Cross this with the other time he tried to tell Elend to go there, and you end up in the lower right of the Terris mountains. Maybe there was a Dawnshard hidden there? And Leras did mention a weapon to Kelsier...
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What was in the Terris Dominance? (Discuss)
Kingsdaughter613 replied to Kingsdaughter613's topic in Mistborn
What’s weird is that the ‘fixed’ continent perfectly matches up to the FE one. You can lay the basin on the FE map and it fits exactly. Although TFE was much larger. Still doesn’t explain what Leras was pointing to though...- 28 replies
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Mistborn Tarot: Spoilers for all books (Discuss)
Kingsdaughter613 replied to Kingsdaughter613's topic in Mistborn
Mistborn Tarot: The Survivor Kelsier, Survivor of Hathsin, adorns the card that bears his monicker. Upright this card symbolizes Endings, Transition, Change and Transformation. Reversed it represents Resistance to Change, Inner Purging, and Personal Transformation. This card’s association with Change, as well as the Death imagery often associated with the Survivor, led to him coming to represent this card. The Survivor is pictured before a bloody fountain, stabbed through the chest with an obsidian tipped spear. The mists swirl about him, symbolic of his status as Lord of the Mists. Above him is the symbol of Malatium, the eleventh metal that led to the Lord Ruler’s defeat. In the lower right is the symbol of Lerasium, here representing Preservation, to which the Survivor would briefly Ascend. As always, the spear is symbolic of the deck of Spears. The Survivor’s blue shirt is representative of the blue skies he promised would be restored. When a taker holds both The Survivor and Ironeyes, he can declare the brothers for additional points. If the taker holds The Sovereign, The Survivor and The Cosmere, the Survivor may count as an additional bout. If used in this manner, The Survivor may not be used as part of The Brothers. This is the first entirely new card I created for this deck. It is the thirteenth trump and the fourteenth card overall. -
I do not see a resemblance between Judaism and Vorinism. There are far more similarities to the Terris, especially in Era 2. Nationality and scholarship and communal life are huge parts of Judaism and those aren’t reflected at all in Vorinism.
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What was in the Terris Dominance? (Discuss)
Kingsdaughter613 replied to Kingsdaughter613's topic in Mistborn
The perpendicularity didn’t move; the landscape was changed. So whatever Leras was pointing to, it wasn’t near the perpendicularity. Now I want to know if this aligns with the approximate location of the Sovereign’s Temple. Does anyone have the Era 2 map? Edit: no, it doesn’t. They’re completely opposite points on the map. Also: the Basin is TINY in comparison to TFE.- 28 replies
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Guess That Cosmere Character! Forum Edition!
Kingsdaughter613 replied to Kidpen's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
That wasn’t a betrayal of the Ghostbloods though. He was never part of the coalition, so he couldn’t betray them. I like the GBs boss. -
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Kingsdaughter613 replied to Kidpen's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Nope, and he isn’t a traitor. He’s quite loyal to the Ghostbloods and Master Thaidakar. Like me. -
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Kingsdaughter613 replied to Kidpen's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Nope to both! This person is avaricious. This person is a traitor. This person is functionally immortal. -
He basically describes an alloy exactly there. Different percentages of two different compounds. The thing is, it’s a sapient being manifesting as a metal. Which, understandably, you can’t just pull apart. (Although, technically we do refer to alloys as ‘one thing.’) Harmonium is a completely different element though.
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Bands of Mourning vs other types of investiture
Kingsdaughter613 replied to zpo73's topic in Cosmere Discussion
It would depend on how exactly the surge works, which we won’t know until the back five (unfortunately). That would be a fun question for Brandon: how the RUSTS do you beat a Fullborn’s speed?! -
Which is also a definite possibility! Honor and Cultivation’s godmetals are described as alloys, btw. Harmonium is a completely different element, as opposed to a compound. It’s not an alloy of Atium and Lerasium, but has a different atomic structure. Shardblades are various combinations of Tanavastium and Koravelium, but are not new elements.
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It also creates a unique Godmetal. So I don’t think they can be that unmixed. There are plenty of unstable compounds in the RW. That doesn’t mean they aren’t very different when in compound form. The important thing isn’t whether or not Harmony is a stable compound or if it can return to its component parts. The question is whether or not the current compound is different enough that oaths on the distinct entities Ruin and Preservation do not apply to their mixture.
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Except that Era 2 is primarily foreshadowing Era 3 and Wax didn’t exist in the original 9 book plan. So it’s very unlikely that he has any major, long term, effects on the world going forward. Particularly since - if he’s alive - he’ll be over a hundred by Era 3. And we can be pretty certain there will be no major shakeups on the Shardic level prior to that.
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Thanks for finding those. The fact that they can be split apart doesn’t mean they’re currently the original thing. And the fact that he’d drop Harmony indicates to me that they’re sufficiently altered from their original Shards that the Oaths attached to those Shards may no longer be binding. You can separate an alloy into its component parts, but it isn’t the simplest process. And the properties of an alloy are not the exact same of its component parts. If we consider Harmony an alloy (which makes sense for Scadrial) then I still think it’s no longer Ruin and Preservation enough to be bound by their Oaths. Just like we don’t talk about steel as ‘carbon and iron intermixed’ - even though that is what is - and expect it to have the properties of carbon and iron. The properties of Ruin and Preservation are not the same as those of their ‘alloy’ Harmony. Which doesn’t contradict any of the above, as you can unalloy an alloy, albeit with difficulty.
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Yes, but what actually Preserved him was the Well. Which is what’s important in a mechanics discussion, not the semantics.
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If Sazed died he’d drop Harmony, not Ruin and Preservation. And while they could be split up, it wouldn’t be that simple. I’m too tired to look those up right now though, so if someone else would do it, I’d appreciate it.
