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This may not be necessary as it could be an inherent aspect of all the Shards.
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Devotion and Dominion were the first Shards to be killed, we don't know exactly when but we can safely assume it was a long time ago. We know that Odium has been on Roshar for comfortably more than five thousand years (the time of Aharietiam, the earliest firm date we have) and he'd been stuck in the cycle of Desolations for probably thousands of years before that. But yes, Devotion and Dominion's power was stuffed into the Cognitive Realm by Odium and that's what makes up the Dor. All indications are that this remains the case as of the start of Stormlight Archive and it was definitely the case at the time Khriss wrote the essays in Arcanum Unbounded. Galladon as an Elantrian is indeed immortal. Brandon has mentioned that their power will sustain them and they have no physical limitation on how long they can live, but it's also a more exhausting to be immortal that way than other Cosmere examples. Brandon has also said that an Elantrian distant from the city (whether on or offworld) will still be an Elantrian (and thus immortal) but they'll lose the visible signs of it and they won't be able to use AonDor.
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Nightblood Taught Odium How To Kill Heralds
Weltall replied to Leuthie's topic in Stormlight Archive
Actually, just prior to the battle Odium threatens one of the Fused that if he doesn't fall into line, he'll withdraw the power that keeps him alive. They're clearly kept around by a process Odium understands and is chosing to maintain. Also, Hoid's discussion of what Odium would do to him if he was caught tells us that Odium already knows how to damage souls beyond repair. There's absolutely nothing about this that requires knowledge of Nightblood. Also, Brandon has described the dagger that killed Jezrien as using similar fundamentals to hemalurgy, which is not the same as what Nightblood does to Investiture. -
[OB] Where did the Listeners acquire their shardblades
Weltall replied to SzethIsBadAsHell's topic in Stormlight Archive
For reference:, a conversation between Jasnah and Shallan in Way of Kings: So they clearly had Shardblades and were familar with their use long before they and the Alethi stumbled into one another. As for where they got them, Narak/Stormseat is the most likely. We know they have weapons of far finer manufacture than their apparent level of culture suggests, some inscribed with writing that look like glyphs (which we know have evolved over time) and one that Kaladin examines had an engraving of a Radiant. Some Radiants during the Recreance could have chosen to break their oaths there, at a location that reminded them of the dangers of Surgebinding and one of their reasons for their oathbreaking. Alternatively, the listeners found their shards en route to the Shattered Plains as they fled from wherever they were originally based, around the same time as the False Desolation and the Recreance. -
The Ire fortress is located within Scadral's Cogntive 'space' and exists entirely there, it's not some kind of dual-Realm structure. Silverlight is an entire functioning city which exists entirely within the Cognitive Realm. @rhaiynebow Have you read Oathbringer? Because that book is where we get our knowledge of Akinah from and it also makes it clear that we can't rely on Dalinar's memories as a perfect understanding of what the Purelake may or may not contain in the present day. Setting aside that of course, a lot can happen in the two thousand or more years since his 'newest' visions and the present era without having to posit worldhoppers. Also, the Ire device does not have to possess any relation to Rosharan fabrials; other 'mechanical' methods of using Investiture exist. Scadrial has medallions right now and machines powered by harmonium and they'll have more sophisticated ones later, Sel had 'standing Aons' and there's a country somewhere on Nalthis that uses Awakening to power machines. What we see in the Ire fortress probably operates on the same fundamentals as a warning fabrial but that doesn't mean it's from Roshar.
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Does Lift ever need to poo? Serious question...
Weltall replied to StarrFall's question in Cosmere Q&A
My guess is that 'hunger' isn't something subject to healing. We see Hoid eat and we know he's got ridiculously powerful healing that he has to actively 'switch off' when he doesn't want it. We also have Miles in Alloy of Law who notes that he still needs sleep even though he's got gold compounding that's almost as insanely powerful and he's constantly tapping his stores. The various symptoms of sleep deprivation are as physical as those caused by hunger but F-Gold healing apparently doesn't work on those, just like it doesn't work on aging. Relatedly, while it's only a single application of Investiture we see with feruchemy that nutrition and healing (and sleep as well) are treated as discrete things under that system, needing different abilities and thus metalminds in order to store. -
Nope, it's definitely Yolen. One other thing Hoid brings up is lands that meet and gods that have died. Both of these describe Yolen
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It's derived from the Hebrew word Adonai
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Does Lift ever need to poo? Serious question...
Weltall replied to StarrFall's question in Cosmere Q&A
I think that if the process that lets her convert food to Investiture worked on anything a human couldn't normally digest, Lift could just eat rocks and convert that matter to Investiture, then let the actual food she eats do its nutritional thing without needing to use it as Awesomeness-fuel. However, we've seen that she needs actual food, so the process should exclude undigestible matter within her food in the same way that it excludes stuff that just isn't edible period. Though this does raise an interesting related question, if a Horneater were to have the exact same power as Lift could they get Investiture out of things that she can't owing to Horneaters being able to metabolize the shells they eat? I'd say yes and it's keyed to the individual. -
Does Lift ever need to poo? Serious question...
Weltall replied to StarrFall's question in Cosmere Q&A
Jumping into this illumaniting discussion, there's also the fact that there are things that humans can eat but can't actually digest like cellulose in plant matter. Anything that Lift eats that contains it is going to be useless for purposes of becoming Awesome because she can't metabolize it normally. So, even if Lift could perfectly convert digestible food to Investiture and not starve to death while doing it (which is what would happen) there would still be things that need to get removed from her body. So, she may belch rainbows but she's not so storming pure as to never need a bathroom. -
What's up with Nale's Skybreakers? [Edgedancer spoilers]
Weltall replied to rjl's topic in Stormlight Archive
The Heralds have thousands of years of experience and can reincarnate but no 'powers' per se beyond that. What they used to have was a direct connection to Honor's Investiture that let them Surgebind without needing a source of Stormlight and gave them a raw power that the Radiants couldn't match, but the bond between their blades and them isn't as deep as a Nahel Bond so their healing isn't as effective and they also don't get squires, their blades can't transform and anyone using Honorblade-granted Surgebinding in the present is far less efficient with Stormlight than a proper Radiant. -
[OB] Dalinar Referred to Szeth as Szeth-son-son-Vallano
Weltall replied to NiceBleach's topic in Stormlight Archive
He learned that the Stone Shamans were wrong to have named him Truthless but that doesn't change that as far as Shin society is concerned, he still is Truthless and his father would be shamed by association. This might change at some point in the future, depending on whether and how Szeth carries out his stated Fourth Ideal. But for now, he keeps calling himself that for the same reason he did throughout the first two books. -
What cosmere character would you like to see as a knight radiant?
Weltall replied to Ark1002's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Well, there's the Edgedancers for one... -
What cosmere character would you like to see as a knight radiant?
Weltall replied to Ark1002's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Depends on what he swears to as his Third Ideal; if he swore to 'follow Wyrn' specifically (which would make sense given how Shu-Dereth works) then he'd never have been able to do what we saw at the end of Elantris without breaking his oaths, though that sort of thing could work as its own form of dramatic tension. But under less extreme circumstances I think he'd make a very good Skybreaker. And Kelsier would probably make for an absolutely terrifying Dustbringer... But I'd love to see Wayne as a Lightweaver. He's got plenty of truths he could tell for actual progression purposes and when he's not doing that, he could make a Cryptic's head-glyph spin with all the 'lies' he tells. Also, Khriss as an Elsecaller because 1) She seems to fit the mold as we understand it, 2) this would put her in a position to maybe meet Jasnah (which I would love to see) and 3) their power set seems like it would be a good match for Khriss in terms of granting teleportation and I'm sure she could do neat things with Soulcasting and her wider knowledge of things Investiture-related. But mainly, anything to get her and Jasnah in a room together and talking. -
The Warbreaker characters are more prominent simply because they play a bigger role in the story and they have very specific reasons for being on Roshar. For example, Vasher is there because it's easier for him and less distasteful to get Stormlight to feed his Divine Breath than it is to feed on Breath every week. But we've seen characters from every major world on Roshar as well as some mystery worldhoppers we can't currently identify. All of them have reasons to be there even if we're not certain of them yet; the Seventeenth Shard trio for example is looking for Hoid and Nazh is doing field research for Khriss.
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Brandon has said that you could use a tiny bit of a lerasium bead and it would still work, you'd just be phenominally weak.
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Yeah, all Cosmere books have been 'translated' into English for our convenience. We might be told what a given local language is called and get some words in it but nobody in the Cosmere is actually going to be speaking a language understandable to us.
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It's possible so long as the necessary Intent is present and the spike hits in just the right spot. He might not even need to be tapping health as he's being spiked, just survive long enough afterwards to start the healing process before his Spiritual age catches up with him. Though currently nobody knows how to do hemalurgy where the Spiritual damage doesn't outright kill the victim, so that's more of a theoretical possibility.
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There seems to be a missing step here: Why would you assume that a Shardblade on Scadrial would manifest as an ordinary metal? The system that's 'designed' to make Shardblades has them be made of the godmetals of Roshar and if you could turn a Seon or Skaze into a blade (which is possible) they'd presumably be the same since they're Splinters of Devotion/Dominion. The only one we know of that isn't a godmetal is Nightblood, whose creation has many unanswered questions. We know that just dumping a lot of Investiture into a metalmind wouldn't work for the Metallic Arts and we aren't certain that there even is a way to make a Shardblade out of those systems. This also kind of nixes the idea that a 'Scadrian Shardblade' would function like an unsealed metalmind; rather what you'd get if you tried to make one that way would be 'a metalmind that just happens to be sword-shaped'.
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We're not certain, no. However, Brandon loves messing with us and will sometimes say things like this when he could have given a straightforward answer, just to keep us discussing things. For example, Brandon would frequently frame any and all discussions of the man who showed up in the WoK epilogue as 'the man calling himself Taln' and implying that he may not be Taln... until he suddenly was. No obvious reason to give us the runaround except to screw with our heads for a bit. For Vax as a planet specifically, Khriss mentions it in the same context as a number of other planets, in the same sentence as Taldain and just a short while after she called out Sel as being unique for one's birthplace being the determining factor in what Investiture you can access. Nothing in there suggests Vax is anything other than a planet.
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You can get the necessary 'Investiture permeation' to become a Cognitive Shadow before dying (it's why the Shades exist on Threnody) but by definition a Cognitive Shadow has had their Physical connection severed and is persisting in the Cognitive Realm and not passing Beyond because of that Investiture. What we see of Wax in Bands of Mourning (and can assume happened to Szeth in Words of Radiance) is as close as you can get to having an out of body experience short of Physical death. You'd still have Connection to your body capable of restoring you to 'normal life' but for a short time your consciousness would be detached from it. But if you've got to the point of being considered a Cognitive Shadow, you are Physically dead, or have at least 'died' once in the case of shadows able to re-establish a connection to the Physical Realm a la the Returned and the Heralds.
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For reference, I haven't found a WoB that says the Shattering happened on Yolen directly but we can infer it from the following two: Frost knew all of the Vessels, inhabits and has not left Yolen and claims that Rayse is 'what we made him to be' (emphasis added), ergo the Shattering happened on Yolen. Also, the Vessels were all from Yolen which is pretty suggestive as well, and we know that Dragonsteel will be set on Yolen and is going to feature the event itself. So plenty of reasons to infer that Yolen was also the location of the Shttering even in the absence of the above WoBs. On Vax, my own guess is that it's the (new) name for the planet that Aether of Night takes place on and that Brandon is going to have Preservation and Ruin have played some background role there, since we know through Peter that Brandon cannibalized an entity from that book into Ati/Ruin and it would be a cute nod towards that. There was also speculation that it might have been the setting for The Dark One, before Brandon definitively pulled that one from the Cosmere.
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Siri 'likes colors' because she's as rebellious as her position in Idrian society allowed her to be, while Vivenna was brought up to be a good follower of Austre and so she has the prejudices against things that are 'colorful' stemming from that. Neither Siri nor Vivenna are Returned but they're descended from Returned and so they have a tiny fragment of the Divine Breath (not a whole one) which makes the Royal Locks work and could do other things if they knew about it and had the opportunity to practice. PS, I find your current title hilariously appropriate, considering the topic we're discussing. xD
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Actually, what's said is that she has a very strong Breath, singular. There's a difference in 'vibrancy' between the Breaths of the young and the old, which is why the Returned generally get their weekly Breath from children. It's also why the numbers of Breaths needed to reach a given Heightening are all approximations. All the line is saying is that Siri's single Breath is a particularly healthy example. At that point, Siri already knows that the Pahn Kahl are the perpetrators and it's not just skin color but height that she uses to confirm it. Lightsong had to figure the whole thing out on his own.
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[OB] Ashyn isn't the Tranquiline Halls. Roshar is.
Weltall replied to Overlord Jebus's topic in Stormlight Archive
Bear in mind that we already have confirmation that Braize is known on Roshar to be another name for Damnation; Kaladin says so in Words of Radiance. It requires no great leap to assume that the Tranquiline Halls are likewise another planet, with the facts having been judiciously edited at some point in the past. I wouldn't put too much stock in the whole 'the Voidbringers drove us out' thing as evidence that the Halls must be somewhere on Roshar since we know that wasn't the real story. Oh, and that 'Pending Review' thing? Go to the actual entry on Arcanum and you'll notice that it has a link to a recording where you can hear Brandon himself saying those words. So yes, it actually is confirmed.- 21 replies
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