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GET THEE GONNE. In other news, a Splinter of Survival actually makes sense: the Magic Jar, the Phylactery, whatever you want to call it. Investing a self-splinter in a planet you're not even on would be a great ace in the hole for surviving what you cannot beat. Like Odium.
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Tineyes, Windwhisperers and the 9+ Physical Senses.
Pechvarry replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Mistborn
Well, I figure either the steel lines aren't stored at all, or they are their own sense. If the prior, then can you burn steel while tapping your sightmind to see metal sources a mile away? Inquisitors make me lean towards the latter, which would indicate you would tap your uhh linemind?- 24 replies
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Perhaps it's strange in light of my comments earlier, but I'm still hesitantly in the "Life Sense to detect" category. You have a system with an unanswered question (how does an Awakened object perceive without sensory organs?) powered by a vehicle which which also provides Life Sense when it's inhabiting you instead of an object. The most efficient solution is the Life Sense gets passed on. That said, Breath also enhances your senses. Perhaps "defines" is a better word. Given that you must give up both (life sense and increased senses)to awaken an object, perhaps the answer could come from Column C: yes. Why not both, just like the Awakener?
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I liked the story, and after reading the first page of this thread, I wonder if it's just because I read absolutely zero allegory into the wrapping of the bird wings. I couldn't help but make mental comparisons to Shadows for Silence, just because of the feeling of constant danger and frontier setting. Dusk could've done more than "look back at the island" to realize his hope-speech, but it wasn't terrible for a short story. This is the sort of situation where we simply cannot see long-term resolution. The best we can hope for is "at least we can prepare and make things hard for them." People are mentioning about how we only see 2 powers, but no one is mentioning the myriad of other powers we see: nearly every other denizen of the archipelago. The native Aviar shelter all minds near them automatically, just like a coppercloud. So this is technically a selfish ability (which everyone else just happens to benefits from), just as surely as predators hunting by detecting minds. Sak is the real and true exception, here, not "the birds" categorically. One thing I keep fixating on: the question is asked time and again "what gives these birds talents?" and the solution was simpy "it's the worms." Why isn't anyone asking the follow-up question: "what gives these worms talents?" This makes me wonder if the bond is what's important. The parasites are bathed in Investiture all their lives and maybe that's enough. But maybe it just grooms them to the task of becoming spren that don't take no for an answer. +1 @Outis for drinking game. Edit: Weiry, I keep feeling like you're overlooking the notion of bad Scadrians. Harmony or no, there is no getting around a simple truth: we have at least 7 more books of Scadrian antagonists.
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I think Trell and his brother might be Shards
Pechvarry replied to BreathTaker's topic in Cosmere Discussion
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Heh. I guess I don't have much to add but want to mention you make a good point about identity and realms: by assuming the Shadesmar beads represent Identity in their entirety, I neglected the possibility of it being a product of several realms.
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Ah. Yes. I believe the reason Stick says "I am Stick" is the most fundamental part of the Cognitive (and perhaps this is unwitting headcanon on my part). Not to beat a non-sentient Stick, but the very statement and repetition of "I am Stick" tells us something of what the Cognitive realm is actually built to facilitate: what you are. Perhaps you're right and this isn't Identity at all. But it seems to me that what you define as Identity is better described as Sentience. Consciousness, self-awareness, sentience. Whatever you want to call it, it gives minds flames in Shadesmar instead of beads. This is the core of our disagreement. The only word I can use to describe for how a stick understands itself as a stick is that it Identifies itself as Stick. I wasn't talking about using Breaths to power Soulcasting. I mean, imagine if from the start, Brandon came out and said "Soulcasting relies almost entirely on Spiritual power." It doesn't change the fact that it would still use the Cognitive realm for its effects. Incidentally, I'd say Stormlight is at least as Spiritual as Breath, so this is actually a pretty firm example of my case: when you said "Breath is largely Spiritual, so the Spiritual Realm seems more likely to be how it perceives," I reacted against the idea of the power source of the system having anything to do with its operation. Though, once again, that's out of context. You never actually said "because Breath is a Spiritual power source" so I'm still in the wrong for acting like you did.
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First off, my apologies if I came off confrontational. Not my intention. I probably read more into that 1 sentence than you ever intended, to boot. But nevertheless, it brings me to a simple belief: No matter how strongly tied a system is to one realm over the rest, it will use the assets it has. I just realized this isn't the Cosmere Theories boards, so I will keep this brief and put it in Spoilers: Stormlight Archives analogy Moving onto other things... well, no. My mind is changing. I do believe Nighblood understands identity, and I would not be surprised if he were using Cognitive Identity to do this. But the more I think about it, the more I want to fixate on my 1-line, edited-in counterpoint from before: Life sense probably tracks Spiritual Connection, and it is my strong belief that Lifesense from Breath is passed onto the Awakened Object created. This could potentially feed into why it only takes 1 Breath to create a Lifeless, but so many to awaken a human-shaped cloak (complete with hair bits and cut-out features to emulate your form). It needs a LOT of life sense if you want it to intercept punches, whereas Clod already has eyes. Self-counter-counterpoint: inorganic matter. Were the bolts fired at Vasher wood-hafted? Does this dead-but-remembers-life feed into Connection? Or are these just flying Sticks and your cloak "hears", on the Cognitive level, some object careening your way screaming "I WAS STICK BUT NOW I'M ARROW" and decide it should catch it? I'm just muddying the waters of this thread, aren't I? Well, put me in the "somehow Life Sense is all a Type 3 needs" camp.
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Tineyes, Windwhisperers and the 9+ Physical Senses.
Pechvarry replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Mistborn
I considered mentioning that one and then I was like "Outis will pick up the slack." In fact, if I ever ended up in a Cosmere cross-over campaign of some sort with you, I would be very disappointed if you were not something along these lines. At least the First Heightening too.- 24 replies
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As a lover of auto-hypnosis concepts, I really like this. Some streaming observations: All Returned start their new life the same way: by forgetting. I find this important in the context of this thread. I'm just not sure how. When questioned about some other processes that should've taken color, (don't remember much. Sorry) I believe Brandon said the awakener's blood gave the color. This could be the same with the girl. If a pint of your blood turned grey and the rest remained red, would you notice?
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Tineyes, Windwhisperers and the 9+ Physical Senses.
Pechvarry replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Mistborn
A) this can only happen if Brandon reads these articles. was always disappointed that "sense of balance" went to pewter instead of tin, but I guess that could be part of the whole pushing/pulling thing. C) do you realize how disorienting "realworld!scientist" is for anyone who spends their time looking at computer code? D) we had a thread a while back about storing Cosmere stuff like Life Sense. I'm still intensely interested in seeing what an {Allomantic steel or Allomantic iron}/Feruchemical tin twinborn could store.- 24 replies
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I know it's a small thing, but I don't like this line of thinking. Everything we know about realmatics is 3 realms and their interplay. No matter how spiritual a given system is, Stormlight Archives shows us Identity is a very important building block of the Cognitive. Having a Spiritual equivalent is, frankly, redundant and inefficient.Essentially, I think it's wrong to view 3 "realms" like alternate dimensions, planewalker style. They seem intended to be 3 layers to explain the entirety of reality, which means overlap is largely meaningless. Self counterpoint: spiritual connection instead of cognitive identity. But see below. All of that said... Nightblood doesn't simply notice people, and it's certainly not visualizing commands like where keys may be. He regularly identifies unique individuals. Yes, he's practically a small shard. But I see no reason to assume he operates on a fundamentally different level than an awakened curtain. He obviously understands identity. Thus, Awakened objects should also be able to (even if they lack discernment i.e. "all humans look the same.") I can't help but mention Life Sense, here. It makes a certain kind of sense (heh) that the system which allows non-physical detection is the same system which needs a way to impart sensory capabilities without adding eyes, ears, or even a brain.
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I need to chime in, here. This is NOT a proven and infallible rule. Shallan has been soulcast on, as was mentioned earlier, but she wasn't holding stormlight at the time either. The big thing is, while we know Investiture blocks Investiture, we don't know enough about how the effects interact. Example: in Mistborn, a Thug can be Rioted just fine (though we know that's a low-investiture system, that goes for both sides of my example). I'm not saying you're wrong -- you're likely correct. But we can't be sure yet.
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Why not? Investiture loves trumping relativity anyway. I like the idea of Trueself Tim giving a command "become like my arms and move as they do" but the object mimics Andy's arms instead because Tim must ghost his identity just to use. Even if Tim is now back on Scadrial. Have it perform sign language and you have quantum communication.
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Three White Sand Comics from Dynamite, First in 2015
Pechvarry replied to Argent's topic in General Brandon Discussion
Watchmen approach would be really neat (err, at least the all-in-one version I read. I don't know the details of how it was originally published) where, between chapters are in world articles and such that explains all sorts of world detail. Less in-character exposition frees up some space for better dialogue and such. I'm sure most of the comic book world disagrees, but I'd be happy with a book on every left page and accompanying picture(s) on the right page. -
Many apologies, Aether, but you weren't kidding when you said "Assaulting." I even unconsciously started reading your post in my Evil Church Inquisitor voice. He is speculating, and he's not claiming false WoB. Not every theory needs rigorous citations. Btw, I believe Teft mentions the first Oath to most of Bridge 4 in tWoK. Moash gets all religiously offended, iirc.
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Unless I'm forgetting something important, I don't think he has Feruchemical iron. Seems like that would've changed his final fight with Elend pretty dramatically.
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Perhaps I'm very strange, but what I really want most is all Brandon Sanderson Q&A stuff (sans WoT and general/writing questions if possible) in a single plain text document. Does anyone happen to have something like that?
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New life goal: build a Cosmeric Mentat.
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Now look at Endowment. Not only is it uncontested, but it seems (to me) to be the Intent most likely to create a planet-wide paradise. Or at least attempt it. I can only come to 2 conclusions: 1) There is a hard-fast rule about affecting the physical realm, and it has nothing to do with conflicting shards. 2) Endowment already Endowed itself as much as is possible. I believe we have WoB that it's not Shattered and not dead, but perhaps there's some similar bind a shard could put itself in, particularly with such a sacrificial Intent.
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Hoid is using his bead of Lerasium as a Metalmind
Pechvarry replied to Kadrok's topic in Cosmere Discussion
The footsteps were in the snow of the original ending posted on his site. For the new ending, the annotations state that, as soon as he overheard the well's actual location, he shadesmar-ported there. -
My opinion doesn't seem to be popular, so far, but I need to point this out: there's simply no way Inquisitors lack Allomantic copper. Just because they know it can be pierced doesn't make it a worthless tool, and I'm sure we've seen evidence that they burn copper just in the first book alone. They need it to do their jobs, and if they have it, so does Marsh. Perhaps this isn't a response to my post that was directly above it, so I apologize if that's the case, but this is only the surface application of Hemalurgy. It also makes "Hemalurgic Creations" and even Inquisitors apparently have physiological differences from Scadrian humans. There's a belief that a certain amount of Preservation's Investiture is enough to make a mistborn, and I believe Brandon mentions in the annotations that the difference between normal humans and Allomancers is the amount of that innate Investiture. However, we have no idea what happens when we add a crapload of Investiture to a Misting. I'm not saying I'm certain of it, but I wouldn't discount the concept that X number of spikes in very specific places could emulate a functional, Mistborn spiritweb.
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You know, mistborn themselves aren't 16 spiritwebs. I wouldn't be surprised if Marsh has a configuration that simply turns him full mistborn, instead of simply the sum of his spikes (like blessings giving sentience, or Koloss being more than just 4x strength spikes).
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I seriously doubt he had 2 Allomantic bronze spikes, as he was already a seeker. He also almost certainly has duralumin. Vin burns it after snatching his vial at the end of her imprisonment, iirc. I'm also dubious about double iron/steel, but they were probably very old spikes anyway. Finally, Feruchemical atium seems more convenient than plot-savvy. Either he doesn't have one at all, or he received it post-ascension.
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I meant as Adolin's... Liege?
