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My pro tip? Hold down the top, dark bar of the quote until something pops up saying cut, then click that.
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@The Young Bard, so what was Magestar?
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In case the eliminators can only kill someone on their own planet and they decide to choose me for their target, here is a list of everyone who I began on Nalthis with, in descending order from who I am currently most suspicious to least. Keep in mind these are all Cycle 1 reads, so they aren’t founded on much and thus likely inaccurate, but if my theory is correct, I'd bet it's one of the first three before the rest (though dow and Dalinar are just a hair from being tied). Although our PM didn't have much discussion, I’ll include some notes I took based on things people have said. TheMightyLopen: Lopen agreed with a comment I made about Sheep’s vote being the most suspicious from the bandwagon on Stink. This is the only player relevant thing he commented on in the PM; the rest of it is mostly small talk and discussion about mechanics. Most of my reason for suspecting Lopen is because he's been so quiet and has yet to let anything slip about himself yet. Not necessarily alignment indicative, but I try to make it a habit of trusting the person who I know nothing about the least. I_am_a_Stick: Stick hasn't really say much of anything, though in the beginning he thought Nalthis began with 10 players and then assumed the others had 6 each (he was counting the GMs and a Cognitive Shadow, I think… honest mistake or deliberate misdirection? Likely the first, given how new he is). Also asks about the inactivity filter at some point, but comments on nothing else regarding the players and the game. Ultimately I'm suspicious of him for the same reason I am Lopen, though naturally I've given him more leeway because he's much newer to this. dowanx: Dow wanted to lynch Mage for information. Said that if he was evil Joe should be cleared. Also said he wouldn’t mind lynching Stink despite him not thinking he was evil, due to his play style. I then pointed out that role and alignment is not learned on death. He said he misunderstood that aspect of the rules and mentioned information being the primary reason he wanted to lynch Mage, but did not explicitly state he changed his mind about lynching him. Regardless, he never voted; generally I find it suspicious when someone says they want someone to die but won't vote for them. Said he would read the rules more thoroughly when he had the time. Dalinar Kholin: Dalinar says he doesn’t believe Stink or Sheep are evil because of how much attention they drew to themselves this early. I can see that with Stink, though I don’t really get how what Sheep’s done can be perceived in the same way. Earlier Dalinar had posted something in thread that made me lean village read on him, but this makes me wonder if he was attempting to dissuade Lopen and I from looking at Sheep disfavorably (which would imply them being members of an open faction, of which there’s only one I’m certain exists… Rayse’s). Silverblade5: Silverblade believed Joe and Mage were sharing a faction. Conflicts with my own read of those two players, and I don’t really understand how he reached the conclusion. Not sure if he still thinks it or not. If it's true, Silverblade might have access to more information than he should. Otherwise I don't think he is evil (he seems to not be playing much differently than LG24), but I would not rule him out entirely. Conquestor: Similarly to Lopen and Stick, Conq has been quiet, but what he did say, he did so too early in the game for me to believe it was a ploy, and it was significant enough for me to believe he is not a member of Team Odium, at the very least.
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I figured it came to that or Sel, and I was leaning Taldain. For the record, there's a few players who plan on remaining here in Nalthis and keep track of who comes and goes, so I've decided to worldhop back to my homeworld like I planned to initially.
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Well, I believe Magestar belonged to a faction other than the Children of Adonalsium or God's Own Hate. He also said he believed PK was the same faction, who openly said he is on Scadrial. On top of that he said he wasn't a member of the 17th Shard, but that I was was the closest in interpreting a third party win con. I recall him implying his home world was one of the ones we can access too, but I'm less sure about that. Therefore I THINK I know what his affiliation is and thus his home world. I've also theorized that a vast majority of people started somewhere they weren't originally from, which leaves only two places left he could be.
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That's fine. Not too important for me to know, but I just had an odd thought I felt like exploring. Pretty sure I figured it out anyway.
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That was quick. Hmm. What world?
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Can someone on the same world confirm this information?
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He was referring to MR10. Good times, good times...
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There was no manipulation. Just Bard changing his vote from Ecthelion to Magestar mere seconds before the sun descended beyond the horizon.
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Just ran through all the votes again to make sure this is accurate. (6) Magestar: Araris Valerian, The Only Joe, AliasSheep, STINK, Straw, Ecthelion III, (6) Ecthelion III: The Young Bard, Doctor12, Magestar, Paranoid King, luckat, Arraenae, (1) STINK: Elenion, (1) The Only Joe: Silverblade5, (1) Amanuensis: Darkness Ascendant, (1) Silverblade5: little wilson, Mr. Sanderson and I tried, but no one supported it.
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...Bard was referring to Kyla, not Jonly.
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I am willing, as it doesn't really make a difference to me so long as no one dies. Ecthelion.
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...seriously people, who the braize is Aman?
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Tie.
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It seems I didn't hear Gladium. Carry on, then.
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Magestar, the idea here isn't to "firm a lynch" on someone other than you. It's to prevent an unnecessary death. You do realize this vote breaks the tie, yes?
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In my opinion, Ecthelion is a much better option than Odin. And he already has 2 votes...
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Just confirmed with Elb. This is how long we have left until the end of the turn. The countdown timer in the OP is for when the night begins. @Nyali, Elb asked me to ping you.
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Finally decided to get my lazy self out of bed. Lily brings up a good point. If Rayse can truly attack anyone he pleases, regardless of their location, then a lot of the tactics I've suggested are pointless. I still believe we should implement ways to mitigate the damage if that isn't the case, but we should also consider the alternative, or else we might end up running ourselves off a steep cliff in the pursuit of false leads. I really do think that ensuring no one dies today is the best course of action. Even if someone openly declares themselves able to discover information about the dead and is willing to share that information with the thread, there's no guarantee that it won't be lies to cover up Rayse's schemes. Also, on the subject of vote manipulation, to the best of my comprehensive ability, it seems the relevant common powers require advanced notice; as in, you must declare what you're going to do the next day, during the night. So in other words, we shouldn't have anything to fear right now regarding that. I've noticed a few others who would prefer to not act rashly. If you agree with Lily and I, please help instigate a tie. There's only four and a half hours left before the sun sets, and personally I'd rather us not shed any blood with so little evidence to support it and potentially no information to gain.
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Not confirmed, just speculation.
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Which investiture system has that? I don't recall seeing that before.
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I could see Taravangian or perhaps Lirin with an ability like that, the first because of his hospitals and the second due to him being an experienced surgeon. Perhaps Susebron too, if his massive number of breaths could somehow allow him to sense investiture, or a Bronze Savant... are there any Seekers of renown in the Mistborn Saga?... though I suppose those last two would be more like role scanners.
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Don't be discouraged! It's something you'll develop the more you play. Just keep in mind for the future that neutrals seldom help the village, at least not in memorable ways, so they have a tendency to be targeted by villagers to prevent betrayal. Outright saying you're open to take sides like that, especially before and after you said you'd help the village, isn't a good sign of honesty or integrity.
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