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  1. Amanuensis
    I am rather amused myself. I've decided to just keep pushing my luck, see how far I can last against the dice. I would rather the two Physickers came forward themselves, but I see no harm in Jon and Alv's fields being revealed. At this point in the game we need as much info as we can get. If both Burnt and Arin are honest about being blocked, then they both, at least, are not the Skindancer responsible for driving one of the students insane (unless both were random), so that means for now we can probably ignore them as evil. Likewise, we can probably ignore the Physickers too, at least until we catch whoever used the sabotage. I haven't studied anything, so I'm incapable of taking actions (I don't really plan on doing anything in my GM PM but banter), so I'll never be confirmable. However, if villagers are comfortable telling us what action they made this previous turn, that could be very useful (although really only if someone can corroborate it). Ah. Hm. Honestly we don't really have many active players left. This really shouldn't be hard to figure out, since I doubt Straw, SB or Eol did anything. I can only post mobile right now so I really can't be bothered to check the last time they were online, let alone @mention the- oh, nvm. @Straw, @Silverblade5, @Eolhondras: y'all alive? Hm. So that leaves Steph, HH, PK, Stick, Cluny, and BR as the potential sabotagers, minus whoever the Physickers are.
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    Still alive o.O Does anyone know what Jon and Alv were studying?
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    Just going to chime in to say that unless there's a chance PK went insane due to whatever he's studying, he's probably confirmed village, so voting on him is weird >> I also wouldn't be surprised if Alv was evil. With Stink and Aonar on his team? Yeah, I can see it. Has anyone even bothered analyzing those two players posts, particularly STINK? I'm pretty sure I remember STINK making it obvious he was evil when he tried to make up excuses for Aonar when PK originally announced he was a confirmed Skindancer, so I wouldn't be surprised if he slipped somewhere else along the way What else was I going to say? Oh yeah. So, given that Aonar and STINK studied Naming and Linguistics, I would bet that anyone else who aimed for those fields is soft-confirmed good as well. Can maybe use that to narrow down suspects (I think Arin said he was going for it and Stink got upset? Could have been distancing but my gut reaction doubts it. Is Arin still alive / sane? If so I'm concluding he's probably village.) Also I'm kind of suspicious of Stick, honestly. I'm barely paying attention to this game, just occasionally skimming it when I get bored with whatever movie I'm watching with my parents, but I'm not getting good vibes from her.
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    I'm not. Though I honestly might put one in now. Actually, nah. I want to test my luck. If I don't get Merc killed by the time my vacation finishes, I'll get involved.
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    I'm amazed too. Guess even the Mercs are afraid of Chandrian. If this keeps up I might be able to play the tail end of this game >>
  6. Amanuensis
    Sadly, you're right. I don't want to play this game. ... ...... ......... ...... ... So I won't. I will spectate, though.
  7. Amanuensis
    @randuir, I want to thank you for all the help you've given me in PMs. I hope it didn't cost you too much tuition, especially since I don't think it's going to matter that much in the end. I keep thinking I'm going to have time to sit down and catch up, but the days are ticking down and becoming increasingly overwhelming, so at this point I think I'm just going to accept my fate and bow out. At everyone else. I think that Rand is village. Shortly after the game began he sent me a PM. In it he has helped me by simplifying the rules I didn't and still don't have the time to sift through and figure out on my own, particularly things like tuition and lodging. Naturally this makes me lean good-aligned, but I wouldn't discount the possibility he's doing it on purpose to get on my good side, since as a Skindancer he'd know I'm not. I would not vote on him any time soon, if I were ya'll, but I want this information out in the open so that if / when I die, it won't die with me. I'm in the process of another big move across timezones, with a pit stop in the US for some training and a quick visit to my family, and as the date gets closer I keep getting busier and busier. Therefore I've decided I'm just going to stay on the streets tonight and if I die, I die (if this happens, @Elbereth, I request that you just have my character vanish, like I said she's prone to do in the sign ups). If I do not die, however, for everyone who wants to get the tuition reduction for voting, feel free to lay them all on me next term. I don't exactly know what the consequences of accumulating everyone's vote is, but I reckon it should be enough to remove me from the game. Since I'm relatively sure nobody has caught it, Esuan is one of the Chandrian in disguise (if you've heard the rhyme, you should be able to figure out which one by the specific Chandrian's sign and name). I was planning on gradually revealing this over the course of the game via RP but I won't be able to manage it. So, if you guys want to give your players an RP excuse for voting on me, use that. Maybe one of you, in the dead of the night, can discover Esuan being visited by Cyphus (for the blue flames) and overhearing some things, than said character can involve a few others and the witch hunt can begin. I dunno, but I think it could be fun. Of course, for lore reasons I request that no one succeeds in killing or imprisoning Esuan. I think it'll be ideal if she uses some crazy magic to escape or if her fellow Chandrian rescue her before it's too late. And that's all I have to say. Good luck and have fun, everyone.
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    Like I said after we killed you, I really wish we could have gone for someone else. In retrospect, leaving you alive wouldn't have been a problem, but we were concerned about you telling people Lopen gave Mint the assassination specialization. I'm glad you'll be sticking around for another game! We could definitely use more consistent players. I hope we both end up village next time, so I won't feel like I have to step on eggshells around you.
  9. Amanuensis
    Good game, everyone! I told Jon this in the PM I made with him, but the elims were honestly concerned with how the village would act this last night, For a while we believed that Joe had been figured out and the villagers were feeding him wrong information, but thankfully they believed he was good :] I really wish we could have converted HH in the end, since he was the only villager who took the "right" side, but I'm perfectly happy with Jon joining us for ironies sake. There's a lot more I could say about this game, but I think I mentioned everything fun / important in the elim doc, anyway. For the record, I decided to keep up the lies until the very end mostly for practice's sake. I will not be surprised if I end up evil in the Championship qualifier. Speaking of, for anyone who wants to spectate, message me on Discord! There's going to be a discord chat for people who are watching the game, and like me playing, it would be a great opportunity for everyone to meet new people.
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    I just want to say thank you @Hemalurgic_Headshot and @A Joe in the Bush for choosing the right side. Unfortunately it didn't matter in the end, but I appreciate it all the same. I also want to thank Mint for not trusting me, as it at least provided evidence that I was telling the truth, even though Orlok and Seonid don't seem to agree
  11. Amanuensis
    Or maybe it's not a charade and you're falling for the people whispering in PMs
  12. Amanuensis
    Ah. I was hoping you were going to say lynching a villager. Suppose you can guarantee it ends by killing one of two probable villagers while you're at it. Well, good game Forgotten. By the sounds of it, this is going to end with not one of you dying, a villager being converted, and one or two villagers left, depending on who the Assassin decides to hit. I'm taking off for the night. I'll be back on tomorrow to say "I told you so" in the aftermath thread
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    Which revelation?
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    I'm sad to see this, but I guess it doesn't really matter Sigh. I had roleplay pretyped, but unfortunately I lost it, and I really can't be bothered to redo it. Oh well. (C5) Votes: Thus Far (5) Amanuensis: Jondesu, Elenion, randuir, Seonid, OrlokTsubodai, (4) Jondesu: Amanuensis, Hemalurgic_Headshot, Frozen Mint, A Joe in the Bush,
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    Well of course that's what you'd say it fits the narrative you're trying to sell. EDIT: Unfortunately it appears that the only player who knows the truth is me (and Mint, I suppose, but she's completely MIA. If anything I think that's also a point in my story's favor, since you'd expect that if an eliminator teammate was going to risk giving themselves up, they'd say a lot more than two lines in the process, or disappear for 18 hours). EDIT2: Because I have the feeling Orlok is about to take the Forgotten's side, too, I just want to point out one thing. If I was an eliminator this game, why, of all people, would I fight it this hard? How many games now have I been caught evil by actions and I've accepted it? Came forward and began to troll people? Relish in being evil and everyone knowing it? Compare past games when I've been in scenarios like this to ones where I was a villager. Look at LG22 for when a confirmed village Meta decided to lynch me over Padan Fain, and how hard I fought that until the end, and how upset I was by it. Right now, I'm feeling the exact same way I did at that turning point in that game. Helpless and desperate to be heard.
  16. Amanuensis
    There's nearly a 24-hour difference between those two posts. I had not thought about why I was specifically chosen as the target until Rand brought it up himself. At the start of this turn, I was entirely focused on the fact that someone was lying about my action to begin with. I came to the conclusion that since the game was still on going, there were five villagers and four Forgotten, as otherwise the play would be far too risky. After seeing player's actions and doing the math, it appears that I was right in that assumption. It's at that point that Rand comes in with the "why you" of all people. So I listed several reasons that came to the top of my head. How can I reconcile it? Stream of consciousness. I'm only one person. I can't think of every angle and every scenario, which is why discussion is important. EDIT: So I looked up the word reconcile and I think I misunderstood the definition. Seeing it now, I'll also say this. It's a win win either way, Orlok. If you didn't show up and vote, then it's a tie no matter what. Even if every villager votes on Jon, they'd be able to stop the lynch by voting for me. On the other hand, if you did show up, there's a greater possibility that you'd choose Jon's word over mine because you personally have been burned by me in the past. I don't think the two pieces of logic contradict each other at all.
  17. Amanuensis
    I disagree I'm reaching. I laid out the perfect scenario for what's occurring, and I'm confident it's exactly what happened. Besides, are you implying that villagers can't reach? Because I don't know what else a villager can do when he has no contacts and he's being ganged up over an action he didn't use. I really fail to understand how anything is pointing at me. Jon said I used Vigor. I said I warded. Mint says I warded. There's been no indication that Mint and I are working together this entire game, and there's two things we know for a fact. Someone in PMs was trusted enough to know that HH was protecting Brightness and Seonid was protecting Lopen. Guess what? That same person would have to know that Lopen is a Non-Rithmatist. Why in the Master's name would I try to make Lopen look bad on C3/C4 if I knew that he was confirmed village by multiple players? If you answer that I anticipated being put into a scenario like this... than wow. You're giving a lot more credit to my intelligence and foresight than I deserve. The true answer, in this scenario, is the easy answer. The Forgotten have been planning to frame someone like this for several turns, and have been preparing themselves for it, so that they can pull off a clean sweep of the village. Meanwhile I didn't have access to nearly as much information as everyone else and now I'm being sacrificed for it.
  18. Amanuensis
    Yeah, that's the point. I, beyond a shadow of a doubt, know that Jon is lying because I know my alignment and the action I took last night. I'm not trying to convince you, since it's clear to me that you're Forgotten too. We both already know where you're vote is going to remain. My analysis of Jon was for the sole benefit of the other villagers, who need help deciding the right choice. As for Mint. Can anyone else who's not Forgotten confirm this? Because it's news to me that Mint was involved in PMs at all.
  19. Amanuensis
    How isn't it? On C4 Jon voted for Ecth saying "If Ecth is village, Len is rising on my suspicion list." Instead of using a Line of Making on Len, he does it on me. Where is the logic there. Until this cycle, Jon hasn't even mentioned being suspicious of me, just wary. Furthermore, look at Len's vote. Granted the same could be said about Mint's for mine, but his reasoning for voting for me over Jon isn't well thought out. You say that it's dangerous, but that's exactly what Mint did, except she actually followed me, and yet people aren't changing their votes. If I was the worst person to target for it, then why the heck is it working? Oh right. Because 3 of the 4 people voting for me are Forgotten. This is exactly why it's a good tactic. Without every single player voting for one person or the other, the lynch is either tied or goes in the eliminators favor. And unlike me, the Forgotten have had cycles to plan something like this and lay the pieces. It doesn't really matter who they chose. I think the main reason I was chosen is because a lot of discussion was focused on me the previous turn, which has clearly left some players impressionable enough to join your side of the argument. Plus, I'm historically known for lying through my teeth. If Orlok is a villager, than I'm the perfect choice for this, as he'll probably get flashbacks to the game where I claimed to be a Seeker who scanned him and found him Spiked just to save myself from being lynched. Furthermore, if I wasn't targeted, I would be the player least likely to follow the Forgotten's lead, as I have a tendency to question everything and doubt everyone. A villager should be wanting to shout loudest in a scenario like this. Although we should all be playing this game to have fun, I don't think anyone enjoys losing. So yes. I'm going to fight tooth-and-nail until the end, because giving up is not in my character.
  20. Amanuensis
    @OrlokTsubodai, @Seonid. You two are the players closest to being confirmed village, as far as I know. Unless you're on a team with Jon and Rand and I've been wrong about Len this whole time, there's no other explanation. To clarify the situation so that you aren't mislead, this is what I believe happened. Forgotten!Artist scanned Lopen C1, discovered he took no role and had no specialization. Forgotten!Artist kept that information to themselves for a cycle to discuss whether or not they should keep it a secret or confront him. The Forgotten decide to approach Lopen for hopes of earning his trust and gaining a Specialization. Because of Sart's clarification that Non-Rithmatists are hard-cleared village, at this point it would be suspicious if they said they scanned him C1. So, Jon pretends to have done it C2 and approaches Lopen C3. On C3, the Forgotten!Artist scans me, discovers that I'm a Sentry who used a Line of Forbiddence. Meanwhile, they find out through PMs that PK is an Artist, and decide it would be better to kill him than me, since my role couldn't be used to prove that Jon isn't an Artist, or that he's been lying about what cycles he's been using Lines of Making if he is. C4 comes around and Lopen begins to suspect me, although I alleviate most of his concerns and contact him, and that's when they decide to make their move. Either they began the game with an Assassin or Jon / another Forgotten succeeded in getting the Assassin Specialization from him, and they use this to attack Lopen and Brightness, the only players able to point a finger at them after the fact. The fact that both Seonid and HH were Forbidding those two players means that for both kills to succeed, Vigor had to be used on them. That means someone in the trust group was compromised (Hello anybody. Jon? Len? Rand?). This also means that since the Acid-Specialists power was used up, one of the two Sentry's claiming to have Warded is lying. Rand or myself. Rand is connected to Jon. He twists the logic of the scenario to fit Jon's agenda in getting my lynched. This is exactly what he'd do if they were teammates. Len as well joins the vote on me, and it only considers a single possibility. It's impossible for them to not have a 4th player, considering both Lopen and Brightness died, and therefore it's got to be either HH, Mint or Joe, since Orlok and Seonid have accounted for each other, unless I'm completely wrong about Len and they're teammates with Jon and Rand. As for the last member it can't be Mint unless her telling the truth about my action last night is some kind of eliminator mind game. That leaves both HH and Joe, who are voting for Jon, so either way they're messing with us. In conclusion, there's two ways I can see the teams right now. Option 1: Jon, Rand, Len, (Mint, Joe or HH) Option 2: Jon, Rand, Orlok, Seonid @Elenion, @Seonid, @OrlokTsubodai, please consider your votes carefully. Considering what occurred last night, if you lynch me, the game is over. I guarantee it. I hope you make the right choice. @Frozen Mint, @A Joe in the Bush, @Hemalurgic_Headshot, one of you have to be evil, but that means the other two are guaranteed village. I beg you to please keep your vote where it is. Otherwise there's no chance of the village coming back from this. (C5) Votes: Thus Far (4) Amanuensis: Jondesu, Elenion, randuir, Seonid, (4) Jondesu: Amanuensis, Seonid, Hemalurgic_Headshot, Frozen Mint, A Joe in the Bush,
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    It's exactly those kinds of broken odds I'd expect a Forgotten to sell
  22. Amanuensis
    I mean, flipping coins is how this game started. Might as well end it that way On a serious note though, I would like to avenge all the villagers that have been killed and are watching this game on the edge of their seats. So I think you should keep your vote on Jon
  23. Amanuensis
    If this is true, then Rand being Jon's teammate is the only explanation. Mint has verified that I used Warding, so that means Rand was one of the two eliminators using a Line of Vigor, or, potentially, is the killer or the Assassin. This matches him joining the vote on me, and the potential distancing I mentioned from Jon's vote C1.
  24. Amanuensis
    Finally! Thank you. As ecstatic as I am to have someone supporting my side of the story, however, why did you decide to use a Line of Making on me last cycle? Of course you'd say that, and I guess I can't really blame you. I'd so the same thing. But come on. I think I said this already, but just in case, I'd like to apologize you for anything I said that inadvertently insulted you.
  25. Amanuensis
    Well considering that I'm not the one lying, this is pretty pointless to respond to. But for the record I did not blame the issue on the GM. I asked you a simple question, if you were sure it wasn't a mistake, because from my perspective there's only two possibilities. You're lying, or there was an error. I dismissed the error being the explanation after Sart's lack of response because he was present for the posting of your initial vote. The only thing I mentioned later was that you might be waiting for a response to delay further conversation on the matter. I'll even go back to find the relevant quotes. Here I just ask the question, as a reasonable villager would like to have confirmation on whether it was a mistake or whether the player is just lying. Here I say it's been over a half hour since it was brought up, so that the information you "received" is probably accurate. Therefore the only conclusion that remains is that you're lying to get an indisputable lynch. Here twelve hours have passed and I'm specifically responding to you wanting to delay the conversation due to a lack of response. When you bring up how that could be insulting, I sympathize and apologize, but that doesn't change the fact that I know what action I took, which means your claim of using a Line of Making on me from the start is farfetched. EDIT: Blaming something on the GM doesn't even make sense from an elim perspective, either. Like, there's no other way that can end besides the GM answering and the elim looking bad. All I did was ask you a reasonable question because I was baffled that you were accusing me of something like that, and you took it further. Note how in every post I made after that, I never once used the GM making a mistake as a reason for you being suspicious. I ran with you being evil, because I'm confident you are. EDIT2: I feel it necessary to point out that while I was typing my analysis of you, you mentioned me saying you were holding off on analyzing me until you heard a response. It's only because of that post that I mentioned the GM at that point.
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