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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I think I'm gonna switch to Walin. I feel like maybe he knows there were only 4 Jeskeri to start(I remember him saying we probably only had 1 or 2 Jeskeri left after we'd lynched the 2nd Jeskeri, so he seems pretty confident in that number). I'll admit it's a little iffy, but I don't have a better lead right now. Straw.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I'll pass it to you during the Night then. I didn't really go over anything tonight like I was hoping to, so I'll just put a vote on Straw since I'm slightly suspicious of him. I feel like there's a decent chance one of the Elantrians is evil, and that's part of why there was no Cultist kill a while back. Because if there's a Cultist Elantrian and a slightly inactive non-Elantrian Cultist, the Elantrian one wouldn't have wanted to draw attention to the Elantrian group by killing another Elantrian while the slightly inactive Cultist just wasn't around or something. That's my current theory at least.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
It was actually because of his very first post where he said he didn't know what to say. Felt like a clueless villager rather than an eliminator trying to look village. At this point I don't have a clue though. I've been sick for the last couple days, and still am not feeling great, but I'll try to find a place to put my vote tonight. Oh, and I tried to gift a Seon to Imperial Mint, but he died...so the offer is still up for anyone who wants a Seon(and doesn't already have one ).- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Does anyone want a Seon? Seonid Heired me his, and I really don't need two.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Really sorry about that. I thought you were going to die when Len was lynched. I didn't realize that the Jindo protects from lover-death from a lynch. I was hoping Len would die during the Night so you could survive, but since he didn't I thought it wouldn't matter if I revealed it. Only reason I revealed it was because part of Len's defense was using you as an alibi and I wanted everyone to know it wasn't reliable. Honestly, I didn't think there was any point in withholding this.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Here's the way I see it. There's like, 2 options for who the Odiv could be. First option: the original convert who we never found. We don't have any leads for this player. Second option: You were scanned as Derethi aligned. Steel, the Gyorn, claimed to have given you a Pendant. So you're involved with the Gyorn. The only player who can confirm you passed the Pendant is Wilson, who happens to be your Lover(according to Seonid, and Steel also said he was in contact with Lovers, so it makes sense). So we can't trust her about this. That's more than enough reason to "follow the cop" on this one. Vote tally: Elenion(3): Lopen, CC, Kidpen Walin(1): Walin Could we get some more votes? Walin...not what I was hoping for. xD- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Hmmmm? I'm almost certain Elenion is the Odiv. And yay! Elantris is back! I've been meaning to message one of ya'll and see what's been happening, but I've been very busy the last couple Cycles, so I really haven't had the chance to do much. Now I don't have to! Also, RIP Seonid. Best scanning I've ever seen.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Exactly this. No way would Seonid do all of this if he was the Odiv, and it's clear he's not Jeskeri. Len, it's totally possible for you to be the Odiv. Wilson can't clear you of anything.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I'm inclined to think Len is just being careful in case Sronid is bluffing. He's not, of course, the bluff was about scanning Steel.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Oh yeah. Straw Steel- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Can confirm.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
No news yet. I'll PM them and see whats going on. In the meantime, probably best if we don't solely rely on the Priest and get discussion going. Recapping the suspects: Walin, Straw, Imperial Mint, King Cole, Coop, Steel(Citizen claim, unverifiable), Pryo(same as Steel), Seonid(very unlikely), Mraize(very unlikely), Lopen(only Gyorn if Odiv is Prince), Elenion(similar to Lopen). I think thats it. At the moment, I'd like to hear more from Straw. If he's not the Gyorn or Odiv, I might consider Steel, because I've had a weird vibe from him. Stink is impossible to read. King Cole seems too inactive to be a power role, imo, but that doesn't mean we should ignore him. Walin, eh, not sure what I think about him. Coop, did have a Korathi Pendant, but used it, which would be weird for the Gyorn to do. Pyro feels village to me. Elenion, possible, as he could be using an Odiv Prince's power as a cover(I'm almost always suspicious of Len :P).- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Maybe Straw is the Gyorn? I feel like he's been a little off this game. Reminds me somewhat of the Death Note QF(15) where Straw was a single elim with a convert. I might take a look at that game tomorrow to see if there's any correlation. It just seems like he's less...hmm, how to put it...involved? Like, one line votes aren't too odd for him, but he usually will do more than that in between votes.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I tried to put him on you.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
...Wow, I also tried to Prince Stink's vote, so that may be the issue here.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Sure, that's what I'm doing. My vote will be cancelled as well, since I've also used my Seon.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I PM'd Mraize earlier, and he's been very open with me. I'm confident he's not the Gyorn, but I suppose it isn't 100%. Seonid was scanned by a Korathi Pendant, which isn't affected by other Korathi Pendants. Again, there might be some weird way he's the Gyorn, so it's not 100%, but it's close enough that I'm confident he's not the Gyorn. Wow, lots of claims. Okay. Updated list: Steeldancer - Items: Seon, Shu-Dereth Pendant. Role: CitizenElenion - Items: Seon. Role: Prince Pyro - Items: Seon, Poison. Role: Citizen Walin - Items: Seon? Role : Unknown Joe/Coop - Items: Korathi Pendant. Role: Unknown Straw - UnknownKing Cole - Unknown StinkImperial Mint - Unknown Probably should hold off on any more public roleclaims, so we have some anonymity left for the Priest/anyone else with good roles.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yep, I've got a Seon. It's my only item.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
No, not for sure. I claimed Prince on Day 2 and used my power then, so the only way I could be the Gyorn is if I swore an Odiv N1 and they were a Prince I think. I've been meaning to use my power but have kept forgetting since then. I'll send in an order now I guess, although I'm not sure it does much good.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Shouldn't I get the credit since Wilson blamed me for it? Dalinar. Would have done so earlier but I was on mobile. And now the hunt for the Gyorn and their Odiv! My last few PM's I've been trying to get claims mostly for this reason, and I've had some success. There's still a wide pool of suspects though, so this won't be easy. Here's the group I suspect the Gyorn is in: Joe/Coop - Items: Korathi Pendant. Role: UnknownSteeldancer - UnknownElenion - Items: Seon. Role: UnknownWalin - UnknownStinkImperial Mint - Unknown Straw - Unknown. Fairly inactive, so unlikely to be the Gyorn King Cole - Same as Straw Pyro - Items: Seon, Poison. Role: Unknown. Kind of expect the Gyorn to have a Korathi Pendant, plus I don't really feel like Pyro would be the Gyorn At the moment, I think Elenion, Steel, Coop, Stink, or Walin are the most likely to be the Gyorn. Out of those 5, I wouldn't think Coop or Walin would be the Gyorn, since it would be a little odd for Joe or Honey Badger to leave the game if they were such a crucial role, but I don't think that's reason enough to count them out entirely. I'm pretty sure Elenion isn't the Odiv at least, because he passed the Shu-Dereth Pendant one Cycle after receiving it I believe. @Elenion, @Steeldancer, @STINK, @Coop772, @Walin, @Straw, @King Cole, @TheYoungPyromancer do any of you have information or reasons why we should believe you're not the Gyorn? Not looking for a role claim just to be clear. Just anything that might help us narrow things down. If anyone has reason to believe any of these players aren't the Gyorn, please say so.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Oops. Thats partly why I messaged him, so he wouldnt become a blind spot. That, and I was hoping he'd have a useful power. Sorry for inadvertantly revealing all your info though... He also told me he has no items, so yep, that settles it. But, I'm a little confused. There's another Jindo out there who just protected you?- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yep, you're right. I forgot I included HH in my suspects list, so I thought I just hadn't mentioned the 4 Elantrians and myself(I had 8 Jeskeri suspicions and 7 non-Jeskeri reads, so with 4 Elantrians and myself, I counted 20).- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Nice one! Let's try to keep this going and have a good Day of discussion. We finally got confirmation that there's an Odiv(we were only at 5 converts the previous Day I believe). The Gyorn is not a convert, so they've got 10 unconverted players left to go. 2 converts per Cycle means the max amount of time we've got is 5 Cycles, but probably more likely 3 or 4 to catch one of the Gyorn or Odiv because of the lynches/Jeskeri kills. To narrow down on who the Odiv could be, they'd have had to be converted before N3, because that's the latest they could've been sworn in or whatever. I'm pretty sure that clears me of being the Odiv, as I believe I was scanned by the Priest on N2, and the Priests scan happens after the Gyorns conversion. I'm still not converted, just fyi. I guess they don't expect me to survive that long. Wait...I just noticed that the convert tally only has 19 players and there are 20 living players, so I guess Hero already removed the Gyorn, which means they've still got 11 unconverted players to go. Anyways, I already posted my list of who I think the Gyorn could be, but I've got non-Jeskeri reads on quite a few of them, so my suspicions list is a little smaller I think. Here's my Jeskeri suspects at this point: Steeldancer, Straw, King Cole, Devotary(Dula), Mraize, Kidpen(don't think so, but eh), Imperial Mint, HH. Non-Jeskeri reads(I'm pretty confident in these): Wilson, Coop, Elenion, Walin, Seonid, Pyromancer, Dalinar. No idea about the Elantrians. Has anyone heard from them recently? If not, I might PM them just to see what's going on.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yeah, I was scanned as village. Wilson posted this to the thread before I mentioned it. Not sure you should take that to mean I'm cleared though, since I could have a Korathi Pendant(I don't, but there's no way to prove that). Actually, I'm guessing we've still got 3 Cultists left. 5 out of 26 players is just under 20%, which seems about right, considering we've also got the Gyorn and whoever they convert. I'm almost certain the Gyorn is in this group of players, so I will be keeping my eye on these players: Joe/Coop(had a Korathi Pendant, but I don't think he's the Gyorn) Steeldancer(weird feeling about him) Straw(fairly inactive, so unlikely) Elenion King Cole(same as Straw) Mraize Walin Dalinar StinkImperial Mint I think that's everyone. Maaaaaybe Pyro, but I don't think so. I don't really have any strong leads though, so I probably shouldn't write anyone off just because of gut.- 1185 replies
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Araris being short an item is why I'm thinking the Jeskeri have a different system. I was originally thinking Araris Poisoned Aman, but now that Pyro claimed that action and Drake is revealed to have no items, it seems more likely the Jeskeri are just different. Yeah, that's definitely possible. It's just, in my experience, whenever someone is as adamant about something as Drake was about having a Pendant, there's some truth there. Maybe he was just committing to the act of having one though. I guess we'll find out sooner or later. >> I'm also not on the reads list?! Oh, I must have missed that. Thanks. Nigel looked around, but it seemed this 'Imperial Mint' had mistaken him for one of his servants. Well, having no memory of not being his servant, maybe it wasn't a mistake after all? Just to be safe, Nigel did the best bow he could. "I mean no offence your royalness, but I'm not sure I understand what you mean? Everything that Bob said seemed to make sense to me." (Hope you don't mind me hijacking your RP a bit )- 1185 replies
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