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TheMightyLopen

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  1. Y'know, I didn't really cover this angle before, but it could be that Aman is a Cultist but didn't plan for Wilson and Jaime to protect him and his buddies just targeted him as a WGG of sorts and so they could take out Magestar and Elodin and the fact that Wilson and Jaime targeted him was just lucky for them. Although someone may have brought this up before. I don't know, I'm really sleep right now, so I can't remember and don't want to go through all the posts again. Anyways, just a thought. I don't really feel comfortable with the Ren lynch, since everyone is basically accusing him for exactly what I said and thought and I know I'm village. Sart, hm. I don't think we should lynch Stink. I personally believe his claim of Neutral and I don't want to ruin his fun when it's not even really the best idea anyways. We really should be focusing on lynching a Jeskeri, not killing people that could potentially hurt us later on. At least that's my opinion. One thing I do know. I'd like it if more people weighed in on the situation. @Burnt Spaghetti, @Aonar Faileas, what do you think about this Aman v. Ren thing? I'd ping the other quieter players, but I can't even remember who they are. Oh wait. @TheSilverDragon We need everyone to be fully participating in discussion if we want to have a legitimate chance at winning this people! Also, I'll be gone for most of tomorrow, so don't expect PM responses any time soon if you PM me. I will almost definitely get back with you before the end of the Day though.
  2. Yes, I know he is the one who suggested it. I was just saying that it was due to Elodin agreeing to target him that made Wilson and Jaime target Aman(in the case where Aman is telling the truth at least). I think Magestar just wasn't really sure who was suspicious at that point, so he suggested someone who he knew was being protected so that he could confirm Elodin did have a kill role available to him. Oh, sorry, the fact that I didn't remove my vote might have made my stance unclear. I'm no longer assuming Aman is Jeskeri. I still believe it's possible, but, I'm not so sure now and am leaning towards him being village. Aman. About Ren, I think he could be a Cultist, but I thought almost exactly the same things he did when the Cycle's results were posted, so I can't really condemn him for that opinion. I was even quite sure about Aman being a Cultist, I just said so in PM's rather than the thread like Ren did. So I don't know.
  3. Okay, so, her last message to me was at 2254 CST on Wednesday, which I think is almost exactly 24 hours before turnover for Day 3. So your messages were the next day I guess? I don't really understand the timing of those messages though. I live in CST. Her message to me about her claiming to you and stuff included her suspicion of Rae and was at exactly 2225 CST(or, 10:25pm Wednesday night). I responded about 20 minutes later to each point she said, including that I was mildly suspicious of Rae and wasn't sure I believed her claim of Neutral(since then, with all of the stuff about her and Silverblade, I'm leaning more towards villager). After that, she said she was going to bed and that was her last message to me. Anyways, that's probably irrelevant. I'm still having a hard time understanding how both Wilson and Jaime would protect you over themselves or Elbereth, the scanner(only Wilson knew about her I guess, but still). It was fairly clear that Magestar had arrested you. I just don't really know what to think at this point. If you actually are village, my thought would be that Wilson was getting upset at people and was like I'll just leave things to Aman or something, so she protected you just in case you weren't protected and then Jaime, seeing Elodin said you were getting attacked and thinking it was unlikely she was gonna get attacked and, not knowing Elbereth was a scanner, didn't really want to protect her, so she just wanted to take the 'safe' action of protecting you. But...dang. Is that really plausible? Or a better question: Is that more likely than you being trusted by all of those players and getting them all to target you? Of course, I'm also trying to figure out how the Philosopher knew to kill Elbereth. You knew about El, so I was assuming you were Jeskeri and were at least in contact with them if you weren't on the same team and told them that you'd gotten all the protection to target you so El was open to attack, but, I'm also finding it hard to believe that you could do all of that without Wilson being suspicious. So, hm. I'm leaning towards believing you I suppose. I honestly thought you were gonna just reveal yourself as Jeskeri. So I guess, in the scenario where you were Jeskeri and managed to manipulate all of that into happening, you'd be likely to just take the victory of having gotten 4 villagers killed(or 5) and have your fun as a revealed eliminator again. Probably. I think. :/ If you're telling the truth, then that was one of the biggest(and worst) coincidences I've ever seen. Basically, I wish Elodin hadn't said all of that completely weird stuff and (maybe) getting Wilson and Jaime to target you(and killing himself in the process, because I did attack him). Who knows how things would have gone if he hadn't done that? Why would you do that Elodin???? I'd prefer to assume that Elodin was manipulated somehow rather than being a troll(Elodin, seriously, if you were just being a troll like it appears you were, I'm really really not happy with you), but that doesn't seem very likely to me. Anyways, my thoughts are still pretty jumbled right now. Current thoughts: Aman is telling the truth and it was due to Elodin's "reveal" and attack of Aman that Wilson and Jaime chose to protect him rather than him manipulating them all to protect him, and the attack on El was either coincidence, or the Philosopher is working with the Cultists and they somehow figured out that El was the scanner(I will admit to having guessed that El was the scanner and did tell her that I thought she was, but she denied it, although I think she did tell Wilson that I guessed).
  4. Hmmm. Well, that's not what Jaime implied in my PM with her. Earlier, I'd said I'd had some gut suspicion against her, so she came to me last Day Turn and was asking about that and said she was a good village role, and if it was any consolation to me, she'd claimed to you and that you and her(she worded it as "we," but given the context, I am assuming she was discussing this solely with you) had a plan that should hopefully prove her role. She told me I could ask you if I wanted confirmation, but I generally just believe people when they say stuff like that, so I didn't think to ask, given I wasn't really that suspicious of her to begin with. So, to me, it sounds like there was more coordination going on than you imply. That's not to say that I'm certain you made this grand plan to kill all those protects, I'm just going through everything there is to try and figure out exactly what happened. I'm gonna try to list everything I know about this situation in just a moment. Right now, I'm gonna eat lunch.
  5. Welp, here's my reads so far. Generally I only have villager reads, because too many people are being quiet. So everyone who's being quiet, if you're a villager, you really need to speak up more, so that the people who do in depth analysis(not really me, although sometimes I do. I basically just get my reads from my initial reaction to posts, combined with what they've said previously) will have more to work with. Villagers(my best guesses, anyway): Arraenae, Aman, Elenion, Bard, Magestar, SilverDragon, Jaime(weak read), Araris(very weak read), Emerald(weak read), Kipper(weak read). Neutrals: Stink, Elodin(Neutral-Evil, but whatever). Eliminators: Renegade(weak read), Eolhondras(like I said, I wouldn't mind if he was killed by a ChayShan), Sart(although I don't think him and Eol are teammates, so likely at least one of them is village), Orlok(so quiet, even during the Day), Elbereth(mostly paranoia. Could be the head Jeskeri(not a guess based on Elodin's "slip-up")), Burnt(still mildly suspicious), Conquestor(depends on who attacked him really, but I was leaning evil before he was attacked because he's been extremely quiet this game and has mostly just joked around when he has posted(though I haven't looked over all of his posts in a long time)). No read/reads are too conflicting: Aonar, Wilson(although doubt she's Jeskeri and she was scanned as non-elim, so leaning Neutral or village, more Neutral, tbh), Alvron(no read, though if one person is evil, leaning village on him). Really though, I have no idea who the eliminators could be at this point. I feel extremely lost. The first few people in my villagers section I feel a bit confident about, but most everyone else is really still a mystery to me.
  6. Well if the Jeskeri are being all nice and friendly then they'd have to convert all the Neutrals as well. Or at least, the ones whose goal it is to survive. I don't really like the plan anyways. This game has too many unknowns and like Wilson said, all we've got is Elodin's word. I don't know that we need to kill Elodin, but I would like to make certain that there are Jeskeri in the game and that should let us know. Ah, ninja'd by Elenion. Not a terrible idea, assuming there's an inactive Jeskeri. Elodin, got any inactives we could take out? @The Only Joe, when they die, will the write-up differentiate between Neutral and Neutral-Evil players?
  7. So it turns out that Magestar isn't the Poke Trainer I'm looking for. Hm. I'm good with using the lynch on inactives. Sart. This way, someone that's been active during the game will be the victor.
  8. Well, I'm assuming I was only attacked once when it happened, because I got Confused and then took 1 damage. It sounds like you just took 1 damage from both attacks and one of them Confused your Pokemon. I suggest sending in the order to Train your Pokemon. It gave me some great results. (Just kidding, the Confusion basically forces you to attack or something, so that order doesn't do anything. You can try it if you want to though. ) I'm curious why they'd attack me and then you. There appears to be a pattern emerging where those who have names that start with "The" and have 3 words in them are being attacked one by one and Confused. The mystery deepens. Could it be that Magestar is the culprit?! Wait and find out tomorrow when he's around I guess.
  9. Vote tally, based on Aman's previous one(hopefully it was right ): Araris(1): Jaime Kipper(1): Wilson Silverblade(3): Arraenae, Bard, Elenion Elenion(2): Stink, Sart Arraenae(1): Silverblade Aonar(1): Lopen Jaime(1): Araris Why is Sart worrying about being lynched if he doesn't have a vote on him? Edit: Dangit Aman, you missed Bard's vote on Silverblade...and the vote on Jaime, lol. @Sart, why did you say you didn't want to be lynched when you don't have any votes on you?
  10. Well I'm Confused. Or rather, my Pokemon is... How dare you use an underhanded attack on my Pokemon like that! Fiend! Show yourself! My goal is now to hunt you down and fight you face to face.
  11. I thought Araris explained himself fairly well. I will say that I had an initial village read on him when he defended himself from Eol on N2, but other than that, I'm not too sure. Rae, my evil read on Orlok isn't much. It's basically a mixture of gut and someone else I was talking to in PM's stated a bit of suspicion of him. I'm not at all confident in that read. Like, using Wilson's scale, he'd probably be like 47. So it's mostly nothing.
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