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  1. Yeah, I can confirm that Bugsy claimed to be the Wolf-Brother about 2 Cycles ago to me. Mailliw also claimed Wisdom to me about 2 Cycles ago, which I took as confirmed when Stink said he scanned Mailliw and saw that Mailliw targeted someone(Bugsy, I think) on a Night that no one was Corrupted(I think it was Night 2 that he saw that happen?(which means Stink scanned him on Day 3)). So, as far as I can see, Aman and Aonar are the only suspects for Fain left. @AliasSheep, can we get confirmation that you're detaining someone please?
  2. Meta, my thought is just that I'm pretty sure that Aman and Aonar are the only 2 possibilities for Fain at this point, and I've had a village read on Aman for pretty much the whole game, although I will admit that I wasn't happy about him only being the cover for Conq's role. Still, I have a village read on Aman and I couldn't get a good read on Hael the whole game and now Aonar claims to be a Viewer(which makes people want to keep him alive), with scans that don't prove anything, so I have more reason to suspect Aonar than I do for Aman. Well, mostly it comes down to gut I suppose, since both of them haven't really played a major role in things so far. I guess, maybe we could lynch Aman, in case I'm wrong(which, I'll admit, happens regularly ), Sheep Detains Aonar(in case Meta is wrong and Aonar is Fain, so the detainment would stop another conversion), Stink Thief-views me(although I'm 100% cleared of being Fain, so I guess that's to clear me of having made the DF kill?) and if Aman survives the lynch, we attack Rubiks with the Wolf-Brother kill(or we could just, not attack anyone, in case one of Jaime or Joe is Corrupted and redirects the attack)? Would that work? Because if Aman survives, that means he is Aiel-Blooded(unless this game is secretly being run by Alvron and the conversion role has a passive extra life ), meaning Aonar is Fain and Rubiks is at least Corrupted(unless Joe is the Corrupted one, like I said earlier), so we'd kill Rubiks(maybe), since Aonar would be detained and so would be untargetable until the following Day. I think that plan works pretty good and is basically what Aman was asking for earlier when he realized he couldn't get the lynch off of him. So, whatever, that can work. Hopefully I'm not missing something terribly important though. :/ Aman. Aonar. So, @AliasSheep, could you Detain Aonar please? I know that means that he won't be able to scan if he actually is a Viewer, but I think it's worth it considering the risk of another conversion if Aonar is really Fain. @STINK, I guess you need to scan me. Maybe you'll finally believe my claim after that.
  3. Are you worried the lynch will move to your evil Corrupter Aonar because of this delay? Huh? Are you? So, on a more serious note, could some more players comment on the lynch? Every lynch is very important. Do you believe Aonar's claim of Viewer or do you think it's a delaying tactic? Do you think it's worth killing him to get the info that Rubik isn't a DF and Aonar isn't Fain if Aonar is telling the truth? Or do you think we should lynch Aman and test his claim of Aiel-Blooded? Or should we lynch Rubik to test Aonar's claim? Or do you think someone else more suspicious? Sorry this is kind of last minute, but tomorrow I'm gonna be going out of town and I'll be gone for about 2 weeks I think, so I'll only be able to use mobile and may not have much time to devote to the game. This trip was supposed to be about 2 weeks ago, hence me picking a lurking character at the start of the game, but it got delayed until now. So don't expect many more long posts from me for the rest of the game!
  4. The Day is over according to Gamma's rollover time and Hael's countdown timer at the beginning of this Turn. It ended about 28 minutes ago.
  5. Not sure how the lynch adds up right now, but Aman is getting lynched huh? Well, can't say I agree with that. Not sure why Meta is so insistent on him over Aonar, when Hael hasn't really done anything much to prove himself all game. Aman hasn't really either I guess, but I don't see Aman as being any more suspicious as Aonar. And as for Aonar(or Hael) knowing when Mailliw was protected, he could have tried to Corrupt him and failed. I'm not sure how you didn't think of that Meta. Plus it's not even confirmed that Mailliw was untargetable.
  6. I can't tell if he's lying or not. I think he is though. Those scans could easily be faked, since none of them can prove anything, and at this point, pretty much any of his scans can't prove much, since most players roles are out in the open already. If we lynch him, and he is a Viewer, we'd know that Rubiks isn't a DF at least. That would narrow down who could be Fain and a DF a lot I think, although we would have just killed a Viewer. I do think he's Fain though. Bard apparently targeted Mailliw on Night 3, according to Stink. So Mailliw may have been Mask of Mirror'd then, although I don't think we can confirm that since Bard just died. So like I said, his scans can't prove anything. It's Day 5, and there's no scans that can be proven? Yeah, I'm gonna have a lot of skepticism about that claim.
  7. Okay, here it is. And to answer your question, I'm confirmed not to be Fain because I was Detained by Conquestor(a now dead villager) when someone was Corrupted(Night 1). As for me being a Darkfriend or not, I'm not cleared of that, which is why I listed myself. I helped lynch Sart and Gunshy, but I did think Seonid was village, like Aman said. I actually defended him from Meta and Aman a bit(whoops). And I'm Aiel-Blooded, which means I can't take an Action to clear myself of using the DF kill. Here's the basic list. Hopefully I haven't forgotten anything too important: 1. Mailliw - Confirmed not to be Fain by one of Stink's scans. I know what role he is, and I don't think he's a DF. We don't have confirmation of his Action for the previous Night. 2. Aman - Aiel-Blooded(claim, no proof). 3. Joe - Ta'veren. Claim by Nyali(who Joe is pinch hitting for) and it's pretty much 100% proven by...stuff. 4. Sheep - Scanned by village Viewer(Straw) as village Whitecloak(confirmed). He's our top cleared player, except he may have just been Corrupted I guess. 5. Elodin - Claimed Dreamwalker(very likely) on what, Night 1 I think? He was attacked by a Wolf-Brother(confirmed by a contact) to confirm his role. Since it appears there are no DF Channelers, that claim is almost certain, though his Action for the previous Night hasn't been confirmed. But, he's not likely a DF in my opinion and he's definitely not Fain, because he was Detained on Night 1 by Sheep. 6. Aonar - I don't believe Hael claimed to anyone, although Joe redirected his ability to Rubik apparently, and Hael confirmed he did target Rubik with something(although if Joe got Corrupted, it might all be a lie and Rubik isn't Corrupted even though both Joe and Hael claimed his action was redirected to him). So - Unconfirmed role. 7. Meta - Claims Dreamwalker(very likely). Targeted by Seonid on Night 1(supposedly), which failed. I'm pretty sure he got targeted by someone else, but can't remember at the moment. Will come back to this, but I think it's almost certain he's a Dreamwalker. Plus he was just Detained by a confirmed villager(at the time of Sheeps order he was cleared at least), so we know he's not Fain or the DF who killed someone just now. 8. Winter - Claimed to me. I don't think I need to reveal her role because she wasn't online during the time when someone was Corrupted and a DF made a kill. So she's close to being cleared without her role being in the open. 9. Bugsy - We haven't gotten confirmation of what his role is, but supposedly he was redirected by Jaime, so I'm assuming he didn't make the DF kill at least. 10. Lopen - Aiel-Blooded(claim, no proof). I don't think anyone has even targeted me with anything this game, except for my Detainment on Night 1, so I cannot prove my role without getting attacked(which, I'd rather you not do). 11. Rubiks - Aiel-Blooded(pretty likely). He just got attacked, but survived and unless you(Aonar) protected him, he's confirmed to be Aiel-Blooded I believe. No proof for his Actions though, so I suspect he's the DF who made the last attack. 12. Stink - Claims Thief-taker(very likely). Pretty good proof as well, IMO. We know all 3 of his scans, 2 of which were on living players. Meta on Night 1 - he didn't target anyone. Mailliw on Night 2 - he targeted a player who was not Detained(relevant to prove Mailliw is not Fain, because there was no Corruption that Night). The 3rd one was supposedly on Bard. @STINK, could you tell us the results of that scan in case it's relevant somehow?. Thief-taker is a village only role. 13. Jaime - Claims Ta'veren(very likely). Unless you want to be very paranoid, her claim is most likely the truth, IMO. She claims to have targeted Conquestor at some point, and said it was successful, but that was only because Conq had a Day Action role, so he didn't target anyone during the Night, but her Action went through, so it came back as "successful" in her GM PM, so we mislynched Conquestor. It seemed very genuine to me. She defended Sart(in a very blatant way), very helpful in lynching Gunshy and I think she was suspicious of Seonid as well. I think that's it. Whew. I'm loving the new site right this moment. I just accidentally erased this post, but it was saved, so I don't have to type that out again. I'm fine with lynching either Rubik or Aonar at this point. I think Rubik is a DF and supposedly Hael targeted him with his Action during the Night, so that could give us information about whether Aonar is Fain, or if he is, whether Joe is Corrupted too. It could also give us information about who made the DF kill, if Rubik isn't a DF.
  8. Aonar, once I get back to my laptop, I was actually planning on doing a very detailed list of what we know of each players roles and how likely it is that they're telling the truth(and what proof there is to back up the claims). There's fairly good proof for most players roles though. Me, Aman, you, and Winter are the only really unaccounted for players, I believe. Edit: Maill, it's a pretty sure thing that Meta isn't Fain at least, right? Oh, and if there's only 4 darkfriends, Meta can't be one because he was just detained by Sheep.
  9. Thanks Stink. So who do you think we should lynch? It's almost definitely gonna be Rubik or Hael(Aonar).
  10. I think we should lynch Hael/Aonar, and then let Stink use his thief-taker power on Aman and Sheep Detains Rubik(if they're around right now?). Or the Wolfbrother kills Rubik. Rubik is my top suspect for Darkfriend at the moment, I think, with Haelaonar as my top suspect for Fain. I'd suggest Stink uses his power on Rubik instead of Aman, but since players seem to want to lynch Aman, I'd compromise. I'm getting a village read on Aman still I think. Edit: I'm on mobile which is why my post is short. I'm probably not gonna be on again for the rest of this Day Turn. Edit2: Uh, okay, nevermind. Didn't realize we still had 30 hours left. O.o I should be back in 4 or 5 hours.
  11. Okay, from what I can tell, Bugsy's list is accurate except Nyai was replaced by Joe, so she should be removed from the list and Rubiks is most likely Aiel-Blooded(unless Haelbarde protected him?), which I think should mean he can't be Fain(though it's not completely certain). If Winter could send in an order from a doc, she's a suspect as well. Otherwise, only Haelbarde and Aman are possibilities. I personally think Hael is Fain. If he is, that would be hilarious, since he was a coversion role in the last LG as well. Aman is still just as possible though. And I think we can practically narrow down who made the DF kill to either Rubik, Aman, myself, Mailliw, or Haelbarde. Well, actually Haelbarde was redirected to Rubik, so he's off that list. Stink, I think you should target one of these players. We know that Haelbarde targeted Rubik with something, so scanning him would be a waste. Edit: Rubiks did claim Aiel-Blooded to me.
  12. Fine, if you guys don't agree with me on Zas. Mckeedee. I have a village read on Bard and Sart, so I don't want to lynch either. I've also got a village read on Elodin as well, due to him revealing he got two items when he didn't have to and his frustration sounds more village, IMO. Edit: Sart, I'm gonna go over Bards posts real quick and see if I still think he's village. Edit2: Yep, still very much read Bard as village and Zas as evil. I don't suspect Mckeedee quite as much, but since no one agrees with me on Zas, I'll keep my vote on Mek.
  13. Darn it. Well, at least I won't be pushing to lynch Hellscythe now... :/ What I find interesting is that I think we can narrow down on who made the Darkfriend kill a bit. Winter wasn't online and so couldn't have made the kill and I know of some players Actions I think. Sheep detained someone I guess, so we know they didn't do it. Aman was last online about 17 hours ago, so it's a bit more unlikely he'd send in the kill, unless they'd decided really early, which, I guess is possible. Joe is almost definitely a villager(or at least started as such), IMO, so he's off the suspect list. At the moment, Haelbarde, Aman and Rubiks are my top suspects for having sent in a DF kill or Corrupting someone. Although, if Rubiks is Aiel-Blooded, I guess he wouldn't be a suspect for Fain? Jaime and Joe, did you learn anything by using your powers?
  14. Okay, I know it's unlikely I'll die, but just wanted to note that Hellscythe is my current top suspicion by quite a large margin.
  15. How does that make him soft cleared??? Obviously, if there's enough items, he's gonna make a plan so that each player gets an item, regardless of alingment, since anything else would be seen as suspicious. However, since passing items happens after kills(I believe), all the eliminators have to do is kill someone with an item(or 2) and it allows for an player or two with no items. And all of this is moot if we make it so that everyone has an item, because we still have to actually kill an eliminator, so we have to lynch someone for something. It's not like we're winning the game by giving everyone an item. Also, Mailliw and me don't have items I don't think, so I'm not sure how that factors into the plan. That means that 2 players won't have items even if everyone was able to pass their items and no eliminator made a kill I think. Although I'm not exactly sure about that. I'm kinda just leaving the item passing to you guys. I suggest that everyone post who they're passing their item to and when they send in their order. This way, no forgetfulness will occur. Send in your Action early and post right after you do so! People, we need to discuss the lynch! Last Cycle's lynch was pitiful. There's only 9 players left right now. There can't be that many suspects at this point. Zas is my top suspect, with Mckeedee close behind. Then, I think I'd say Mailliw, Joe, Elodin, winter(she can't have made the previous kill at least, so I don't think we should lynch her), Bard, and Sart. I'm the 9th player. So, who out of the 8 players that aren't you do you suspect most? I want every single player to answer this. Please.
  16. I gave my item to Bard. So I don't have an item anymore, since no one passed to me(I don't think anyone was supposed to though). Okay, if we believe Joe and Elodin about forgetting to pass their items(which I do. I just read them both as being honest. Joe because of the real life mention and Elodin because his apology sounds genuine.), then since Mailliw and me passed items(Joe confirmed Mailliw's pass and I'm waiting on Bard to confirm my pass) we can narrow down who made the eliminator kill down to 4 players: Sart, Bard, Mckeedee, and Zas. I have a village read on Sart and Bard and an eliminator read on both Zas and Mckeedee. So I suggest we lynch one of those two and the village Shades target one of those four as well. Only problem with suggesting that is that if I'm wrong about both of the eliminators being in that group, the kill could still be made. But hopefully most players can explain their Actions. So, I'm not positive about this, but Zas. I'm willing to lynch him or Mckeedee, and I'm not sure who I suspect more at this point. Zas, I realize you can't explain your Action and plans are nice, but you didn't even try to narrow down who made the kill just now, which is what the plan is for. That just adds to my suspicion of you.
  17. Okay, seriously, now I'm even more suspicious of both Mckeedee and Zas. Everyone, please reveal what Action you took. I passed my item to Bard. I did not receive any items. Edit: Everyone was online at a good enough time to send in the Mutineer kill except Winter. She was never online for the past Cycle. So her and I are cleared of having made the kill. Can anyone else prove themselves? Mckeedee conveniently can't, seeing as Elbereth was killed. So I believe either Mckeedee is being framed or he's a Mutineer. Sart, Bard and Zas can't prove themselves either, since they didn't have any items. I'm assuming everyone else can prove themselves though? Who got Elbereth's item? Oh, also, villagers who have died, please help us out by putting the Shade kill on one of the players who can't account for their Action please. This is a very helpful mechanic for the plan as it is.
  18. Okay, lynching Bugsy and passing my item to Bard. If Bugsy turns up village, Mckeedee looks more suspicious to me. I still suspect Zas. I'm lynching Bugsy to get more info about Mckeedee and because he doesn't have an item and hasn't been participating much lately.
  19. Mckeedee. Just so you know, I don't expect anyone to do a big mega post with a list of how they feel about each player, though it certainly is appreciated! Mostly I was just curious about what players you had opinions on. Thanks for the list though. Oh, and Elbereth, you say you have a fair amount of reason to be paranoid of me. Really? How come? I'm gonna pass my item to Zas, seeing as winter hasn't confirmed she's willing to be a part of the plan. And then there's the lynch. Sigh. I don't know who to vote for right now. I'm gonna go with my gut here, even though I'm really unsure about this. Zas. My main points against you is your vote against Aman, which doesn't make sense to me, because there were 2 players up for the lynch, Aman and Conq. Aman hadn't been online and only received a poke vote and a vote to tie the lynch(rather than a player being actually suspicious of him), but Conq had received actual votes, so, IMO, we'd get the most information from lynching the player who'd actually received some suspicion on him, rather than a complete inactive. And yet you state that you were lynching Aman for the information it could give us? That's why I initially read that post as suspicious and even though Aman turned out to be a Mutineer, I still think it's suspicious. Regardless of the outcome, I think how players reach their conclusions for their votes is just as important as whether they're right or not. Next, you cast suspicion on me, SD, Conq and Elbereth last Cycle. SD and Conq are revealed to be villagers, I know I'm a villager and I believe Elbereth is one as well. So I find it suspicious that you'd cast suspicion on 4 (probable) villagers like that. I have some reservations about that post, because apparently the eliminators killed Conq and you helped lynch SD, so why would you cast suspicion on 2 players that were going to die and be revealed as villagers? But my theory is that you knew Conq was dying, so you thought along those same lines and decided it could get you some trust because surely an eliminator wouldn't cast suspicion on the player they're about to kill at the same time they're lynching a different villager, right? Anyways, that's my top theory right now. Hopefully I'm not being overly paranoid here. I thought about voting Joe, but I'm just not sure about him. I've had a slight village read on him for a while, although it hasn't really ever been very strong and I could see him being an eliminator. Edit: Ripple, when does this Cycle end? I think we've only got about 45 minutes left guys. We need more votes people! Vote tally: Winter(1): Joe Joe(1): Elbereth Bard(1): Sart Bugsy(2): Mckeedee, Lopen Zas(0): Lopen Gah, fine. I'll force a lynch.
  20. Honestly, I still think Jaime is more likely village, even with this happening. I think this clears her of being Fain as well. I mean, there's also the fact that apparently she's Ta'veren and the Mutineers had one, so it's more likely she's village based on role as well. Rubiks, I suspect you a bit. I was gonna lynch you last Day Turn after all. I don't suspect you a lot, but I'm having trouble getting any really good suspicions at this point. I think Hellscythe is my top suspicion at the moment, although Bard seems to really trust him for some reason. Still, I don't have a reason to trust him and I've been getting more of an eliminator vibe from him pretty much throughout the game.
  21. My thoughts on why Fain only Corrupted 1 player is that either it was a fairly new player that wanted some advice early, or, the more likely option in my mind, it's a more experienced player that decided to Corrupt 1 player early so that they could work together to get information about the rest of the players and then Fain won't use an Action and risk outing himself until more information roles are dead and his Corruptions can hit more desirable targets while there's not as many players left. It's just the way that I personally would do it, so I can't say if that is the case or not. At this point, I'd like to remind everyone that I cannot be Fain or Corrupted(yet, at least) because I was Detained by Conquestor(though it was Aman who told me about it) on Day/Night 1. Oh, and Aman is now a suspect for Fain/DF again, since...he's not actually a Whitecloak apparently. :/ He's actually in a perfect position if he is Fain, since he's not a target to the eliminators since he's only focusing on finding Fain. So I'm much more worried about him now.
  22. Okay, I'll work on finding a more reasoned out vote tomorrow, when it's not so late. For now though, Mckeedee, could I get some sort of list or something that has your suspicions and players you trust at this point? I've been leaning Mutineer ever since that lie to Joe, but really, I'm not sure what to think of you at this point, so I'd like to hear your thoughts on the game. Oh, I'd like to say that even though I don't trust Elodin or Mailliw very much, them revealing they received items is a villager-y thing to do, IMO. Especially in Elodin's case, since I don't think of him as as much of a trickster, like Mailliw can be. Also, I think I'd like to pass my item to Zas, so he joins the item passing circle, because I have some paranoia about him. Will that work? Or will it just complicate things? I'd like to get all the suspects items so that we're more likely to have them all covered in the plan. And I'd like to hear a bit more from Bugsy as well. I think he's been pretty quiet lately.
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