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  1. Orlok Tsubodai
    In the spirit of ongoing discussion, Mage, would you defend your assertion that a strict contribution crusade isn't a bad idea? I'd reiterate that encouraging activity shouldn't be something we need to worry about, this game. With Ruin, the Skaa, Assassins, Coinshots and a lynch all capable of depleting the alive player list, and such a small game anyway, we really need to get the most information we can out of activity. Supporting a crusade draws attention from the game to those players who are inactive. It gives the 'crusader' a place to hide, it doesn't give us information from the targeted player, and it takes focus off those players we should be discussing.
  2. Orlok Tsubodai
    With all due respect, Elenion, I have to say I disagree vehemently with this suggestion. You are quite right that we have a newer and marginally less active player base, and that activity is something we should all try to do something about. However, this is a very small game, and there are two factions with kills, and two potential sources of vigilante kills, along with a lynch each cycle. I firmly believe that if the village has any chance at winning this, we need to get as much information as we can, as quickly as we can. A strict contribution crusade is an awful way to get information. It may keep more players present, but it eliminates the source of information gathering for the village. A credible lynch, based on evidence, forces players to defend themselves, and forces other players to defend them. This allows us to work out ties between players, or to catch contradictions in views. A lynch based on the contribution crusade, on the other hand, requires no more defence than raising one's hand and saying "I'm here, please don't lynch me". It may keep a couple more players around a little longer, but they won't have any information to work with, and with a game of this size with as many kills, I'm not terribly worried about inactivity anyway. The last thing I'd like to point out is that the contribution crusade is an excellent thing to hide behind. It allows a player to appear as if they're contributing to the game, helping the village, whilst actually providing no views of their own, and so not exposing themselves to being caught. As such, I'm going to vote on Elenion.
  3. Orlok Tsubodai
    I have now recovered from my collapse, and with my time at my my gap year job coming to a conclusion, will sign up as Locke
  4. Orlok Tsubodai
    I'm afraid that I'm going to have to pull out of this game. I've greatly enjoyed catching up, and analysing the game, but doing so took me more than 40 hours last week, and has meant that I averaged less than three hours sleep a night. This would have been fine, but I collapsed after lunch yesterday, and had to be taken to hospital by paramedics. There appears to be something going on with my heart, and it's either caused or exacerbated by stress and lack of sleep. As such, ceasing playing seems to be a sensible, albeit sad, decision to make. Thank you all for providing such entertainment, and particularly Meta for running the game.
  5. Orlok Tsubodai
    Whilst I seek to make amends with Wilson and discuss the situation, I think it better that I refrain from continuing to vote for her. Wilson. For now, with the proviso that being sick last night I haven't finished catching up yet, I too will vote for Assassin. The evidence I'd give to support this is as follows (others may well have additional from later days): D4, Assassin doesn't engage in the discussion, voting for Rae without reasoning, and so defending Nyali. Of far greater salience, I'd suggest we all look at Assassin's initial reaction to Arinian claiming seeker, in D5. After opening voting on Rae, and so protecting Nyali again, Assassin's response is to, without any justification or elaboration, question whether we can trust Arinian. He goes on to suggest that Arinian was guilty, and named the entire eliminator team as villagers in a gambit. Scepticism of a seeker can be justified. Such an attempt to discredit a seeker through whatever means, particularly when doing so is an attempt to keep the lynch on Rae, and off Nyali strikes me as extremely suspicious. He continues this approach in D6, questioning why Arinian isn't dead, and accusing him of being evil, despite Arinian having ensured the lynch was on Nyali as opposed to Rae in D5. He justifies this saying he hasn't considered that Arinian was the prime lurching target (potentially consistent with the eliminators knowing Lopen was the only village lurcher, and therefore an eliminator attempt to get the village to use the lynch on Arinian), despite Arinian being literally the most obvious lurching target in the game. In N7, Assassin says that if he dies tonight, the village should kill Headshot, and reiterates his suspicion two posts later. However, 3 post after that, he's now happy to agree not to press for a Headshot lynch if Headshot doesn't push for his lynch. This, to me, indicates a total lack of conviction in his beliefs, most easily explainable by them being but fabrications, corroborated by his eagerness to seize a deal that prevented him being discussed. Points Assassin may raise in his defence include: Voting on Dalinar D2, and telling coinshots to focus on him N2. The D2 vote, though, was well after the Dalinar lynch was condemned, and was entirely safe, if he knew Dalinar had Pewter. Likewise, the call for coinshots to attack him is also safe, knowing Dalinar was protected. He may also suggest that his request for Arinian to scan him on N7, but given this happens to be the night that Arinian dies, it's an easy request to make with eliminator kills already placed. I would also suggest that there was a concerted effort to save Assassin in the D6 voting, and that given his actions outlined above, such a defence materialising is evidence of an eliminator attempt to save him. As a result of the above, I am entirely supportive of Assassin's lynch today.
  6. Orlok Tsubodai
    I'm about 850 posts into my analysis so not up to date, and will get a post up at some point in the next 36 hours, as soon as I'm done. For now, I would point out that Lopen was the only village lurcher, and didn't protect Wilson, who was attacked and saved N1, and hasn't been attacked since, unless it was N7 or later. I am of the view that it was certainly a WGG, as an attack and save would likely result in her later death once discussion of the WGG wore off - Wilson is indisputably dangerous to the eliminator team, when a villager. Other evidence implicates Wilson, but I haven't completed my analysis yet, and will post a complete "profile" when I get to the end of the thread. Significantly more thoughts to come, but don't want to see this day wasted, and think it's getting close enough that waiting until I'm done and missing the day could result in the game becoming unwinnable.
  7. Orlok Tsubodai
    Yep, still here. Getting there, with the analysis, now. Got another few hours done last night. On track to have a post up by the end of this day cycle!
  8. Orlok Tsubodai
    @A Joe in the Bush, @Seonid, @DroughtBringer. I am here, and am working really hard to catch up. I still expect to meet my end of the week target, with a very material post by the end of Saturday. I have a lot of thoughts, but they're all from posts made mid-January and earlier, and want to get to the end of the thread before commenting. I have spent a great many hours on this, this week, along with a really, really busy work schedule, and will be upset, and probably a little angry if I do die.
  9. Orlok Tsubodai
    Thanks to those who summoned me/PMd me. Life has been... Interesting. My sister was hospitalised last week, among other things, and I've struggled to catch up. I've analysed nearly 250 posts today, from D1 (I did N1 a while back), but have a long way to go. I'm expecting to be caught up by the end of the week, at the current rate, but will try to be done sooner.
  10. Orlok Tsubodai
    Exhausted and fever-wracked as he was, Locke was taken aback by the tone El took. Although he should be used to it, given the frequency with which he was taken ill, it was still jarring. Taking a moment to process what she'd actually said, he tried to clear his throat. "It's obvious. I've been a total fool. Allowing myself to be hosted by a Lord I still haven't identified... It's clearly a show of strength." After a moment to collect his thoughts, he continued. "If there's a new player in the game, the logical first move is to destabilise the existing power blocs. Inside his own place of strength, poisoning me would be easy, and would leave a vacuum. It makes too much sense. To be taken ill so swiftly after arrival..." Locke smiled, grimly. He'd survived the attempt, and with El's ministrations, would make a swift recovery. He had wealth, his name, and was established in Tyrian Falls. The next move would be his own.
  11. Orlok Tsubodai
    Locke sighed, resigned to the lack of deference. He would have complained about El's statement of the obvious, but didn't have the energy for verbal sparring today. Clearly he didn't look well. That tended to happen, when a rival lord moved unannounced into your lands, and proceeded to poison you in what was so very obviously an attempt to take power, whilst The Lord Tekiel was incapacitated. Locke muttered about the unknown lord and poison to El, and then cursed to himself. He was barely articulate. Regardless, with medical attention he might pull through, and then would bring his wrath down upon the perpetrator. He was sure that Slight and Sleight: Politics in Luthadel had a chapter on historical reactions to failed poisonings.
  12. Orlok Tsubodai
    Apologies all. Somewhat ironically, given Locke's present state, I got rather sick again yesterday, having got food poisoning from sushi.. I have been working on a post giving analysis of the game. It's taking longer than I had expected or planned, and probably won't be done before rollover, although I'm doing my best. Locke sat up, as El knocked on the door to his chambers. It demeaned him, to not be of health to greet her properly, and were it anyone else, he'd have had his Terrisman take instruction and see him himself. El, though, had seen him in far worse states. The Lord Tekiel had taken ill shortly after arrival to Tyrian Falls. He wasn't sure if it were the environment, or his body protesting the shock. He'd always been shunned by his father, treated as lesser than his younger siblings. An embarrassment to the family name. He could never have inherited, and the pretense of being a second child had become difficult to maintain as he entered puberty. Hiding him away, claiming severe illness, had worked for some months, but as he grew frail from lack of exercise it became unsustainable. He was smuggled out of the city, and installed in a manor house owned by the Fadrexian branch of the family, sufficiently distant from Luthadel that no one would connect his arrival with the sad death of Locke Tekiel, second son of Nestor Tekiel. He received a stipend, channeled through an accounting system so obscure it would take the Canton of Finance years to penetrate, if the current arrangements ever broke down. But he hadn't communicated with his father since arriving. In many ways, he was glad. He had been dead to Nestor since the birth of Solon, Nestor's 'firstborn'. Sometimes, he wished he had been dead. He would never tell anyone of the circumstances of his birth. It would lose him his game against Lord Conrad, and would undermine his status in the village. A bastard child of a Tekiel and Heron...
  13. Orlok Tsubodai
    The Lord Tekiel lay on a bed, cursing the world. Of course he'd catch an illness from associating with a rabble like this. Never should have left the manor. It had been a surreal few days for Locke Tekiel. The discovery of another Lord in the area, and a manor house he was unaware of changed things. He was pretty sure that this was real, and not one of his fever-dreams, but hadn't figured it out, yet. Although now recovering, he had not been in a state for critical thought. And this worried him. It seemed too much of a coincidence. Changing the balance of power like that, and laying the Lord Tekiel low to prevent a response... I have actually been unwell, over the last few days, but have recovered. I have a personal goal of a substantive piece of RP each cycle I'm alive, which isn't something I've ever done in a game before. I'd quite appreciate it if people helped keep me to that? Locke was brought back from a daydream by the sound of approaching steps, in a pattern he recognised. He'd known El for a few years, now - since he'd first taken ill after being sent off to Tyrian Falls. He would ask her for her thoughts on the "coincidence" of his illness, and for an update on the state of the mob downstairs.
  14. Orlok Tsubodai
    Lord Tekiel, or The Lord Tekiel, as he thought of himself here, found himself in his study on that fateful afternoon. Having settled up his accounts (and discovered where his Terrisman had managed to lose the boxings), he had begun to read. His manuscript of Slight and Sleight was... To say "well used" would be overly kind. Barely holding together might be more accurate. He was, therefore, irritated when disturbed by a clattering of footsteps and heavy breathing. The missive, though, was interesting. Lord Conrad's competent Terrisman had come across a most foul sight in the town, and had summoned those of import to discuss the matter. Locke sighed. This would grant Lord Conrad yet greater influence over the council. Nothing could be done, though. Setting up a rival meeting at this stage would be an embarrassment, and would draw no one of note. With regret, he prepared for the journey. It would, at least, be an interesting day. Fury. Outrage. Lord Conrad expected him to share his council with... How dare he. Upon entering the manor, The Lord Tekiel found himself confronted with a... mob. Commoners, the lot of them. It was an insult to the family name. Locke grimaced. He would have to steel himself, and bear theit company. To be seen leaving such a meeting would be worse still. He would engage with the rabble, if he had to. But he would make sure he was accommodated appropriately first. He was not friends with Lord Conrad. Not that Locke Tekiel had friends. But there was a level of mutual respect among the local nobility, and Lord Conrad would not stoop so far as to lodge a nobleman with commoners, if only for the precedent it would set. Apologies, Hero, if your master isn't Lord Conrad. I presumed from Meta's write-up that there were no other local nobles, but am happy to make corrections if you would like.
  15. Orlok Tsubodai
    I shall sign up as Locke Tekiel, a nobleman with holdings in Tyrian Falls. Fourth son of the reigning Lord Tekiel, and so cut-off from the inheritance, Locke is resentful of a society that never saw him as valuable, but fiercely defensive of his lineage to those he sees as lesser beings.
  16. Orlok Tsubodai
    A large part of me is inclined to vote for Joe. Summoning all the players like that is am excellent action as an assassin, should he wish to cover himself. But it's also an action village!Joe would do, so I can't really say anything, there. I suppose it comes down to which of Joe or Sart we'd get more information from, should we lynch them... I don't think I'm qualified to judge that. I'm very minded to vote for Joe, so we can see who tries to swing the tie.
  17. Orlok Tsubodai
    My apologies, all. I'm having a little bit of a breakdown at the moment. I have very little reasoning to justify a vote on anyone. It is interesting to note the speed the lynch train formed, but also that that's certainly not alignment indicative. At this stage in our forum, membership of lynch trains is less somewhere to hide, and more somewhere where scrutiny originates from. I suppose I will support a lynch on the grounds of information, provided it is actually discussed tomorrow. I understand that we have enough of a buffer to allow this, and the impetus for discussion will allow further inferences to be made.
  18. Orlok Tsubodai
    As suspicious as it sounds, I'm not certain I want to vote for Alv this cycle, despite my disagreements with him these last two cycles. He's conceded that there wasn't a specific ground for justification for suspecting me other than metagaming. I've been having issues with work as my project crescendos in the run up to Christmas, so haven't had as much time as I'd like. Consequently, I'm not sure if my suspicion on Alv actually stands up to any scrutiny.
  19. Orlok Tsubodai
    My apologies for the lack of response so far. A lot has gone wrong at work today, and my manager is overseas, so I've had to resolve it myself. Consequently, my thoughts are rather less detailed than I'd been hoping, and I would only ask that Alv elaborate and justify his suspicion of me. As far as I can recall, the only justification he's given for his accusation is a very tenuous attempt to link this game to the QF.
  20. Orlok Tsubodai
    I think Alv's assumption is rather dangerous, frankly. A near identical team would be ridiculously easy to spot, particularly so soon after the last game. I think the lesson that Hael has been trying to teach us is discussion, entirely based on the game at hand, rather than meta-gaming. (Not only that, but our early kill decisions in MR18 were informed by knowing who hadn't died early in recent games, an approach not evident here.)
  21. Orlok Tsubodai
    Archmagister Vanus Galerion died a great many years ago, according to the official histories. He, and the friendly voices the palaces of his mind entertained, disagreed. The journey from Leyawiin had been arduous, but by Auri-El was it a relief to be free of the pond-scum... Stump-Tail was clearly an irritation, but Galerion was determined to ensure he wouldn't remain so for long, particularly inhabiting his basement.
  22. Orlok Tsubodai
    I'll sign up as Galerion, a rather reserved Altmer.
  23. Orlok Tsubodai
    To me, one of the things that makes inactivity a serious problem is that it becomes very difficult to get back into a game. As some of you may have seen, I had to prioritise studying for interviews at Oxford over SE. Unlike MR18, I didn't drop out of this, as I thought it would likely still be going on my return. There is an awful lot of discussion I need to catch up on, that will almost certainly not be helped by Ookla season. That said, I intend to do my best. I would be incredibly grateful, though, if anyone could spare 10 minutes to either send me a PM, or write a post here, giving their version of a summary of the game so far? I loom forward to getting involved in this game once more.
  24. Orlok Tsubodai
    I'd like to weigh in on the exploring conversation. I'm firmly of the view that we ought to continue to explore. Firstly, Wyrm is a very experienced GM, and a cynic. I'd be willing to bet that Wyrm has balanced this game such that individual self interest in exploring won't overbalance the game against us. I also believe that there will be a cap on the number of eliminators - it's too obvious an exploit to continue exploring until 15 players win through being converted to allow uncapped conversions.
  25. Orlok Tsubodai
    I really don't think that strategy is going to work in a game like this. Not only does not posting frequently actively help the eliminators - discussion being our only means of finding them, it also raises you in suspicion in my mind - posting infrequently is an excellent way to avoid attention. Most importantly, though, it goes against the spirit of this game. My understanding is that Hael is running this game with the specific aim of fostering increased discussion and debate among players. Refusing to participate is not the way to do this.
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