StormingTexan

Finished Wrath of Empire. Really solid second book excited for the last. Was glad to see my favorite character show up in the end wish he had more screen time though. Also finished a re-read of the Kingkiller Chronicles. This is the first time I have re-read TWMF. I loved TNoTW but was less impressed by TWMF. This time around I liked TWMF a lot more. I'll tell you this though.. Man re-reading this prompted me to check in to see if there was any news on the release of the third book. I figured there wasn't or I would have already heard but still had to. Reading fan's thoughts and Rothfuss replies makes me appreciate Brandon even more.

I recently had a friend plead with me to read the Raven's Shadow books. He gave me the books and raved about how good they are. I read a little of the first one a week or so ago and it just didn't grab a hold of me. I will give them another shot though because we have very similar taste in books.

Absolutely love these two books and cannot wait for the last one. I've read both 3 times now and it gets better each time. I'll admit the time travel stuff gets a little confusing I feel like I need to write out a timeline but it is a great story. About half way through Wrath of Empire and loving it so far. I re-read Sins of Empire right before which I liked even more this time around. I think this will be better than the original Powder Mage books. You can certainly see Brandon's influence in his writing.

Oh wow I didn’t know the second book was out! Just bought it. I liked Sins of Empire a lot can’t wait to read this one!

You beat me with this post by seconds! Can't wait to hear more about this!

I’ll have to check that out I’m a HUGE fan of the Barsoom books.

Thanks for the feedback everyone regarding Dark Tower! I may jump in to King in a little while. Only King books I've read are It and The Body (Stand By Me) besides The Gunslinger.

Alright so I might just give The Dark Tower series a shor again I’ve been looking for something new to start. I found this expanded reading order what do you guys think? Looks like this could keep me busy for a while. The StandThe Eyes of the DragonThe Dark Tower I: The Gunslinger“The Little Sisters of Eluria”The Dark Tower II: The Drawing of the ThreeThe Dark Tower III: The Waste LandsThe Dark Tower IV: Wizard and Glass‘Salem’s LotHearts in Atlantis Insomnia “Everything’s Eventual”The Dark Tower: The Wind Through the KeyholeThe Dark Tower V: Wolves of the CallaThe Dark Tower VI: Song of Susannah Black HouseThe Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower

I read the first book and at the end was kind of like what the heck did I just read. That is not necessarily a bad thing I felt that even more so with Annihilation and other books but pair that with a setting I just don't really care for much and I just wasn't compelled to keep reading. I have heard really good things about the series as a whole. Maybe some day.

Thats true but this was my opinion going in to the book not after I read it. Looking at the cover I thought it was steam punk then reading the prologue just as @Niteshado said it seems like a western. I read this before I ever found this site and had just finished the original trilogy which was the first books of Brandon I read. Only reason I even remotely kept reading was because of how much I loved MB Era1. By the end of the book absolutely loved it.

That is a good point and she was raised in a mainly male house. I mean besides the mother she killed. What about Lyn? I kinda see her as the type of young lady that is perfectly fine hanging out with the guys though. Now that I think about it there is VERY little female friendship in SA...

You are not alone! In fact I almost didn't read AoL because I have never been able to get in to the Western/Steam Punk setting. It is why I couldn't get in to Dark Tower. Now the MB Era 2 books are one of my favorites especially BoM and cant wait until the last one is out.

I'd have to strongly disagree with this regarding motivations. We have a very good understanding of Adolin's motives at least in the first two books he is defending his father and family. Pretty much everything he does revolves around this motivation and it is clear right up to the point he kills Sadeas. So in Adolin's case I'd say this is completely false.

Great video! Most was pretty well known especially around this site but I enjoyed seeing the childhood photos.

My apologies completely unrelated to Adolin and I do not want to hijack the thread about him but I remembered this WoB while reading OB then kind of forgot again with all the post read glory here. So speaking of Jasnah I am having a hard time wrapping my head around how she is obviously the most knowledgeable and I'd go as far to say skilled KR (as in understanding her powers) yet she is still a side character until after book 5. Oh and not to mention she is now the Queen of Alethkar. Anyways sorry please carry on I am enjoying the discussion on Adolin. A lot of people put my feelings a lot better than I do.

I've have these books on my list to check out. I had to look up what "silkpunk" is but it does intrigue me. I'm about half way through the last book of the Unhewn Thrown trilogy. This one has been much more difficult to get through than the first two books. One thing that just seemed odd

I like Adolin. The 4vs1 duel is one of my favorite scenes in SA and made even better when Adolin sat in jail for Kaladin. He's a standup guy and one of the type of people you would want on your side. I was ok with how the whole love triangle thing worked out in OB and think Shallan ended up with the right guy. She's crazy and needs someone like Adolin to balance her out. I like that he offered to step aside for Kaladin and then later as king. I hated how the whole Sadeas murder thing was handled. This was such a pivotal moment in WoR. In OB it seemed like it was going to be a big deal with the investigation and the irony of Adolin being charged to investigate the copy cat murders. Ialai involvement looked promising as well as a source of tension. Then it just gets covered up by the Re-Shepir plot. Pretty much gets dropped from there until the end of the book and the reveal to Dalinar was pretty much just a passing comment that he dismissed as "we all do bad stuff". I guess it is possible it may come back to haunt him but at this point most of the tension created by the scene in WoR is lost. So I am pretty much indifferent to Adolin now because that seems to be what Brandon wants us to feel. I think I am one of the few that do not care about the Adolin/Maya deal. I guess it will be cool to see a dead Shardblade resurrected but it is pretty low on my things I am excited to see.

Welcome! Yes this is a great place to discover some of the things you may have missed and read all kinds of wild (typically wrong) speculation!

Sorry let me explain. The previous discussion was why the characters were not questioning how, why and who were attracting spren. Which in Adolin's case seems worth questioning because his current skill sets would be well suited especially if you are trying to put together a force of KR to defeat Odium. Also most of his family members are becoming KR. I may have interpreted some of the previous comments incorrectly but I took self-evident was referring to the in-world characters. As in none of the characters are questioning this because it is self-evident to them how, why and who are attracting spren. You said it was self-self evident because of Adolin having a dead shardeblade which my counter was that has not precluded other characters from attracting/bonding spren. So it would not be self-evident to the characters and is not a justification for them to not question these things in particular regarding Adolin. I may have misunderstood in which perspective you meant self-evident. Regardless I do not feel it is self evident either by our or in-world perspective. I agree WoB can be left to some interpretation but even if you interpret it your way Brandon has said text in books trumps WoB and in the text we have a specific case where someone has attracted a spren and has a dead shardblade. Edit: @insert_anagram_here That is correct about Dalinar he did not have Oathbringer when he bonded with the SF but when do you consider he attracted the SF? I consider it once he started getting the visions which was before he gave up Oathbringer. I'll admit the SF is a special case and not as clear cut but that would be my assumption. In Elhokar's case he literally had it right before he died. He was stabbed in the arm by one of the queens guard and dropped it. He then gets the drawing out and holds his son before Moash kills him. Edit again: here is the actual scene.

Forgive me if I am not following but the "self-evident" part is meant to mean in-world correct. I am saying why would this be self evident in-world when it is directly contradicted. Also no one is disagreeing with the fact that spren do not like KR using dead shardblades several characters have been told this by their spren as you pointed out. If i recall correctly Syl also told Kaladin about it. As seen though this becomes an issue after the KR attracts/bonds a spren.

I have to give the nod to Oathbringer just because of the size/scope of SA even though it is not a perfect book. I do love Mistborn (where I got started with the Cosmere). BoM was really good and the Cosmere implications at the end were awesome. I wouldn't say MB Era2 tops the original trilogy but it is an amazing follow up and I've enjoyed all the books a lot. It makes me excited to see two more MB eras. I think this was a really cool idea Brandon had to show the same world/magic as time and technology progresses. It's a unique approach to fantasy.

Agreed. That WoB means Adolin does not hear the screaming because he has not attracted/bonded a spren not that he is precluded from the possibility because he has bonded a dead shardblade. Now one may argue that because of his deeper connection to his blade it may make it more difficult to attract/bond a spren but we really do not have anything to substantiate that argument and we certainly shouldn't say that anyone bonded with a dead shardblade cannot attract/bond a spren because we have evidence of the contrary.

Elhokar had a dead shardblade and attracted a spren to bond with him. Maybe I am missing something because I am not sure where this assumption that if someone is bonded to a dead blade they are precluded from being able to attract/bond a spren. We have an example with Elhokar that it does not. Obviously once they do the spren is going to want them to give it up but I am missing the proof that it prevents attracting a spren.

Welcome! Which Sanderson books have you read besides Stormlight?

Huge loss to humanity as a whole. He's a great example of not giving up the fight surviving more than 50 years past his diagnosis. R.I.P.