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  1. Clanky
    Well that is disappointing that the plan never would have worked. Still I am slightly glad that I wasn't just missing something obvious when I couldn't find any reasonable plan based on Joes idea. I agree that Mail seems most suspicious at this point with his trust in Joe, but my judgement may be clouded by the epic trolling of LG14. However by buddying up with Joe and saying to lynch him and Joe if the plan failed he can gain a lot as an eliminator. This are assumptions based on maill being a Skaa and Joe being an inquisitor. 1) Firstly Joe is more likely to back him up later in the game 2) If the plan failed and Joe was lynched before maill and found to be good, why would you lynch someone who vouched for an innocent? 3) If he was of the same opinion as me then the plan would've been a good way to waste some of the Inquisitors lurching. Still it is all speculative and I won't be voting yet as I have a few other suspicions I am looking into first. EDIT: Speling and clarification
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    I think that if you were doing this as a Skaa Joe then you would be doing it to get the Lurchers to waste their metals. No need to kill them if they all run out of vials doing your plan. Still I don't think this is the case. I am more interested in the people who are supporting Joes plan when it is so murky as to his intentions at the moment.
  3. Clanky
    Ah so it's a seven step plan. I know exactly what you are trying to do now!
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    They are not actually doing this to protect him but so that he can enact a plan that he needs the identity of a lurcher for. However I was thinking more about this plan and remembered that he said this when first proposing it: Was this all you had planed originally Joe or were you just hoping people would agree to your idea without you having to say you had an overarching plan?
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    Well I wouldn't go as far as to say we should lynch him if his plan doesn't work out, however if his plan was something that was obviously never going to work in the first place then sure lynch him(and you I suppose ​). I am just worried that people aren't putting enough value on our lurchers limited metal supply.
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    Even if the lurchers follow through we still face the problem of a Skaa blocking Joes Tin with Brass. How do you suppose we deal with that?
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    Good point STINK. Joe, now that you have revealed what you plan to do any Skaa with brass can just sooth you so that you learn nothing and all the Iron will be wasted. Also now if the Skaa ever do want to target you with something they can combine it with brass to ensure they aren't found out. So is the plan you were thinking of just to get a Lurcher to target you who you knew their name and try and draw a Skaa kill so that you can hopefully identify your attacker? I can't think of anything else that involves just you and a lurcher
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    How are you going to explain this plan of yours to a lurcher without PMs? Most of my concerns have nothing to do with your end of the plan but with the part of the plan that includes everyone else. How many vials of metal are worth wasting for us to give your plan a try? What are the lurchers supposed to do when they can't even tell if you learned about them? Do they just wait and hope that your plan becomes apparent to them over time? Even then if they do discover your plan you may still get all the lurchers following through since they don't know if you know about them or not. How can you ever confirm that the player you found out about is actually a lurcher short of death? EDIT: I would like to hear some other peoples opinions about this so that it isn't just me and Joe arguing. The point of plans like this is to get discussion going for everyone. So what are everyone else's opinions on this?
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    It is true that nobody has taken this into account with there odds. Either they forgot hat the role was present or they assume that only inquisitors have coinshots and that they will refrain from any killing until more info is available*. I would caution against assuming that the Skaa I would think it is very likely that they have one given the limited usage. Anyone agree? * Just getting in my two cents that I don't like villager kill roles being used too early, especially in this game with limited vials.
  10. Clanky
    I agree with that point which is another reason that the plan is illogical. Sure I agree that discussing a plan is always good that doesn't mean that the plan itself is a good one. As for your other responses: 1) So you are saying that the lurchers are basically useless yet your whole plan revolves around protecting them from the lynch? 2) So we should have 2-3 lurchers waste a metal on you and only one of them will actually be revealed and the lurcher themself won't even know whether they got told or not. Does that mean they should target you every cycle just to make sure you find out? Apparently lurchers are useless anyways so why not. 3) 4) What does a lurcher gain from telling you other than one person who may help them in case they are up for a lynch especially when they won't even know if you found out(See 2) 5) As I said in point three they don't need to waste a lurcher they could use any metal and it would be indistinguishable to you. Also Ripples point above is very valid EDIT: Isn't it more likely for a villager Lurcher to have success blocking a kill than a Skaa lurcher? Skaa lurchers only protect against coinshots who have limited attacks. Meanwhile a villager lurcher protects against conshoits and the Skaa kill. So wouldn't a skaa lurcher be more likely to waste a lurch?
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    Yes there are many problems with this plan that definitely outweigh any good: 1) It is a waste of lurchers metals which are not unlimited 2) You are only told one of the people who targets you so if multiple lurchers target you you will only be told one. 3) Anyone can target you with any metal this cycle and you will have no way of knowing what metal they used 4) Why would we reveal all lurchers to you anyway when they are the ones who should most remain hidden? 5) Why can't the Skaa have a lurcher when there are Coinshots in this game? EDIT: Grammar and added point 5
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    I'm in. Lan is excited that someone has finally seen his potential and is determined to be the most fearsome Inquisitor of all time.
  13. Clanky
    Granted but since evil is an ambiguous concept and the Dalek doesn't view what it does as evil it still exterminates you. I wish that people would stop finding loopholes in peoples wishes that negate them.
  14. Clanky
    You are right Seonid there was an attack on Wilson that couldn't have been done by Karlin. However it also couldn't have been done by me since you yourself role-blocked me. Also since Karlin wasn't active then she couldn't have invested in anyone else if she held Odium at that point. That leaves two possibilities: 1) A different player held Odium and decided they didn't want it anymore so they gave it Karlin just for fun. Why would the OCs want a kill anyways? 2) Someone else has a kill ability. Maybe someone who got invested by Odium earlier in the game and who has the ability to use the kill later. Now who has that ability this game?
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    I think he means that he invested in you Kipper to test your alignment. He used his survival investment and ended up on team good again I assume.
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    I removed my vote from Maill. If he did invest in you he can't be OC aligned. Also Seonid, do you actually still think I am an OC? That would make 7 OCs with the potential for two players to change sides. We could just not lynch anyone this cycle and wait to see if Karlins death ends the game
  17. Clanky
    Then we could lynch Maill. He still has some extra lives left and if he happens to have changed sides we might as well get a head start on killing him. If he hasn't changed sides then the game will be over after Karlins death and no harm done. EDIT: Vote colour
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    Can't endowment just give Odium back to Karlin and then kill Karlin with Odiums kill the same way that Ruin was used earlier?
  19. Clanky
    I'm just not sure exactly how you narrowed it down to either me or Seonid. Why is everybody else definitely innocent?
  20. Clanky
    I believe that role-blocks do stop all actions. Also can Hoid even hold a full shard? EDIT: Ninja'd. When I asked Joe about Ruins role-block he had said that it would block all actions taken by your target. Does this mean you can choose to block one action or all actions?
  21. Clanky
    That first apology was day 10. Therefore you only claimed to role-block me Night 9 and Night 10. I am talking about Night 8. I was given Ruin Day 8 and Role-blocked Phat Night 8. The OCs still made both kills. So I was role-blocked I assume. UNLESS, apparently the OCs had been passing Odium around every cycle to the same player they invest in. I suppose that OC#2 could have had Odium when I role-blocked Phat, then passed Odium to Phatt in time for Wilsons investment to fail. Does this make sense from a rules and timeline perspective? If so then that explains this quite well Still, I'm not sure I agree with Seonids implication of Raven. Could I potentially get a PM with Kipper, and/or Dowanx? Seonid would be nice as well.
  22. Clanky
    I actually missed that part sorry. I just read about your list of players. I am not talking about the cycle you claimed to have blocked me. I am referring to the previous cycle where I attempted to block phat and he still made a kill so I must have been role-blocked.
  23. Clanky
    Seonid, even if I had passed on Ruin that still doesn't account for when I was role-blocked when I was attempting to block Phat. Since you are the only one that could have done that, Seonid. Does anyone know what shards have invested in Seonid?
  24. Clanky
    Nope I did not role-block you Seonid, and for the record I do not trust you still. I am not in the right frame of mind to do my analysis at who the last OC is at the moment but I will try and get on for that in a bit.
  25. Clanky
    You are right, I missed the bane on that one and only saw that the boon was about pi and assumed you wished it away. I should stop assuming stuff.
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