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  1. Young Bard
    Yeah, I have to admit, my evidence is entirely anecdotal - the last two MR's both had to extend signups in order to get enough players, and a lot of GM's have just seemed frustrated that they didn't have more players. I'll look at the MR numbers to see if there's a general downward trend in those games. OK - so the player count hasn't so much been decreasing as there was a precipitous drop recently - that may or may not be statistically significant. I know if I had a choice between an MR and an LG when signups are at the same time, other things being equal, I would be more likely to go for the LG. And as a general rule, LG's tend to have fancier shiny new mechanics more often than MR's do as well, which is also a draw, and may be why the LG numbers haven't declined as much. And because I want to see if the drop in numbers is matched elsewhere, and to be a completionist, here's the QF numbers from the last year. So 'the drop' seems to apply to the QF's as well (though not as much), and possibly the LG's, depending how/where you draw the line. Since it is just the last 3 months or so, I'm willing to chalk it up to randomness for now and see if the trend continues.
  2. Young Bard
    A few new players, a few returning players, and a couple interesting mechanics... Bleh. I really want to play this, but I'm running the next QF, and I don't have time to do both. Sign me up for the spec doc, please. (Sorry, this looks really interesting.)
  3. Young Bard
    Perpendicular Allomancy
    Yeah, I was going to say something similar to what Jofwu said - I think there's a theory out there (I don't believe it's been confirmed) that says we've only ever seen one 'line' coming from a given object because of Cognitive Realm stuff, where the object being Pushed/Pulled perceives itself as one object, so you would only be able to push-pull the object. It's a really neat idea, though - if it were some sort of elevator specifically designed to have two metal plates on the top and bottom, it might work? Actually... how much torque would this produce? You're Pushing the top and Pulling the bottom, so my 'elevator' idea wouldn't work either (at least not one I'd want to stand on), since it would end up spinning wildly as it rises.
  4. Young Bard
    Thanks, it works now.
  5. Young Bard
    Thanks. It's not allowing me to vote, though. It says "34 members have voted", so maybe it's reading that I already voted last year and won't allow me to vote again? I'm not sure.
  6. Young Bard
    So, historically, this would be the point where we put the candidates who've said they could do it up for a vote - I think that's @Furamirionind, @Elandera, @A Joe in the Bush and @Devotary of Spontaneity (to clarify, Devotary, do you accept the nomination or not?). If @Fifth Scholar, @Alvron or @little wilson could get the poll up and running, that would be great.
  7. Young Bard
    Ha. That was incredibly fun - I definitely think that someone should run more meta games in the future (I don't know if Joe and Gaea have plans for it - with Joe's wrap-up it doesn't sound like it, but I hope so). Getting to play dress-up for a little while was fun. Part of me had a bit of RP planned for if @Fifth Scholar died and I was the last remaining mod/god character, which I'm a little disappointed I didn't get to see to fruition, though. (They just had to vote and be active every cycle as well, so I wouldn't be tempted into nudging that particular ambition along... ) And yeah, that was just incredibly bad luck on the Eliminator's part - Roadwalker might have been relatively cleared after the Day 1 lynch, because usually 2 Eliminators up for the lynch is quite rare - frankly, I decided to kill them more a a partial inactive and a way of moving discussion back into what I saw as more useful territory than out of any genuine suspicion - it was just bad luck. It also put Devotary's vote in a much more suspicious light. IIRC, this was @May I suggest The Only Joe's last game before they head out on their mission. I think I speak for the community when I say we'll miss you, and that we can't wait for you to come back in 2 years time. I remember your first game in LG29 when you seemed like you had a lot of potential, so decided to convert you to my team - I think you more than lived up to that potential, in that game and in every game since. Good luck.
  8. Young Bard
    I was specifically told I was roleblocked on Night 2. (Compared to Night 3 - initially, the GM's forgot to tell me what happened, hence the initial confusion, and I was later told I was redirected to Itiah, who was an invalid target.)
  9. Young Bard
    I killed Itiah, so the Eliminators must have killed Lumgol, which seems like a strange choice (perhaps they thought Lumgol was unlikely to be protected?) For those trying to keep track for their wincon, I too am not yet Joe. Walin - at this point I think we're just running down all the potential candidates left who aren't absolutely cleared, unfortunately - you didn't miss all that much, Ada.
  10. Young Bard
    1=Elandera 2=Xinoehp 3=Fura 4=Rand 5=Steel 6=Itiah 7=Fifth 8=CadCom 9=Lumgol 10=Araris 11=Aman 12=Walin Using Ada's code from Cycle 2 - my first post to you, count the number of letters in where this letter is found (o2 is the second time o appears) - that's the person I'm referring to. Spaces not inclued in the count. Ada, I'm currently planning on killing o2, but if you have prefer, I'd be open to killing e. Arand, I'm currently planning on killing a, but if you prefer, I'd be open to killing e. (I'm guessing you might want me to kill s, but unfortunately that's not possible this cycle.)
  11. Young Bard
    Thanks for the nomination, Fifth, but I definitely do not have time. I would like to second(/third) Fura, Devotary and Joe, however.
  12. Young Bard
    Eh, I wasn't planning on claiming because I didn't think it would achieve all that much, but I think my hand is forced if everyone wants me to. I'm the Contribution Crusader. I killed Kidpen yesterday, since they were both borderline inactive and fairly suspicious. The reason I didn't kill the two nights previous to that is because I was roleblocked Night 2 (attempting to kill Drought, which I'm still inclined to put down to a now inactive Vashikaran, though I'm less confident than before, since 6 Eliminators seems unlikely - if this is because of you, could you please speak up?), and redirected to an invalid target Night 3 (from Drought to Itiah, who posted more than 5 times that cycle - this is from Xino's redirect), both of which I announced publicly in thread at the time. There's one more thing I should probably add about my role, but for reasons that should become clear, I want to wait until the night turn to do so. Honestly, I don't know what's up with the convert. The one thing I can think of is if Alv was hoping that he would be lynched Day 4 once it was revealed he was lying about his role, but intended to convert his strongest opponent Night 3, a night after everyone thought the convert was made, thereby making that player most likely to be trusted to the end of the game. That's really heading into mad hatter paranoia territory, so is almost certainly wrong. I think I'll leave my vote where it is for now - for one thing, I can kill Snipexe (or Walin or Itiah) tonight, while Araris only needs to post one more this cycle to be immune to my kill. For another thing, I don't think there's that much more evidence against Snipexe than there is against anyone else - I don't see any reason Snipexe would lie about being redirected even if they were a Spammer (though I may have forgotten some of the precise details with Snipexe, since I've been busy and they weren't really on my radar.)
  13. Young Bard
    Yeah, I'm inclined to think this might be the vig, in which case, the last Elim is likely inactive. On a coin flip between Araris and Walin, I'm voting for Araris. Ideally, I'd like to hear a bit more from @Araris Valerian, @Walin and @I think I am here., and probably a few others I've forgotten.
  14. Young Bard
    ...OK, what is going on. I have a correction to make. I saw my action hadn't gone through, but I didn't know why, and the GM's had gone offline. I thought that, like Night 2, it was simply because I had been roleblocked, and I'd targeted Drought, so I posted to the thread with the information I had. Joe got back to me when they came back online (which I saw just now), and my action failed because I'd been redirected to Itiah, due to a peculiarity of my role. @I think I am here., guess it was me who targeted you yesterday. Sorry, I didn't realise that until now. So... What the storms happened with the redirects last turn? List of redirects: Fura: ? -> Drought Bard: Drought -> Itiah Snip: CadCom -> Xino I can't spot any pattern here - unless there's some sort of big loop where my target was given to Fura, and Fura's was given to Snip, or something, but I'd be interested in hearing anyone else who was redirected to try and figure out this mess. In the meantime, Drought, since it does look like I may have jumped the gun. Did you target Fura and I yesterday? This doesn't look like a SookeSiled action, since all of the people who mentioned the redirection sent in orders. It's too chaotic for a villager to have used it, I think, so I'm inclined to believe it's the Spambot convert action that caused this (at least in part). EDIT: Ha, @Furamirionind, you have impeccable timing - poke-voting me just as I was putting the finishing touches on my post.
  15. Young Bard
    I was roleblocked for the second time (presumably by the Vashikaran). However, I targeted @May I suggest The Only Joe both Night 2 and 3, so there's a slight possibility that that player is immune to my action, either as a village role or as a second Vodiyehi. In either of those cases, however, I would have thought the Vashikaran/Vodiyehi would have sent in a kill action, not their role action. Droughtbringer, I want to know if you have any insights into this.
  16. Young Bard
    Hmmm... Can one of the Converts ask Joe how much of the players alignment gets revealed to the thread if that player is lynched/vig killed? It might be the easiest way to ease everyones paranoia for you to convert one of our top suspicions for the lynch, then lynch that person and see what else comes up on top of their regular role.
  17. Young Bard
    That's right. So right now, we've seen one roleless, one Temptation, one Babaji, and one Vodiyehi all dead, and (probably) one Vashikaran alive and one convert.
  18. Young Bard
    Right. Hopefully someone will test this tonight, and confirm in thread tomorrow. (I don't think the Spambots would have two Vodiyehi's, but it's hard to say for certain, given how powerful all the village roles are.)
  19. Young Bard
    Bleh. I feel like it has to be more than that. As was mentioned last cycle, Alv had a 25% chance of guessing correctly, and presumably they'd either have thought of an excuse for why his role didn't work, or else he had a plan in place for it to appear like it did work, and that fell through somehow. Assuming it's the second, I'd place greater than even odds on the Spambot convert having the ability this cycle of having a vote manipulation. The only one with a claimed ability like that is Rand, but it doesn't fit the description, since we know Arand's extra votes are on Snipexe. That leaves someone who currently has not claimed their role, or a Roleplayer. Alv first claimed Night 2, so (and please confirm this for me, @Seventh Saint and @Cadmium Compounder) the Roleplayers would have known which roles they would have for Day 3 (that would have required the Roleplayer to have been converted Night 1, though). Since CadCom was Alv's 'target' (though, given Alv, I can't entirely rule out the possibility of this being an IKYK), I think they're probably village. I'd be curious to know what role Seventh had this Week, and what they have tonight.
  20. Young Bard
    That's... what? @Cadmium Compounder... Is this your doing?
  21. Young Bard
    I'm sorry for being inactive - I meant to do another reread of Day 2 (like I did with Day 1 last cycle), but just ran out of time. Also, I was hoping that the Kidpen lynch would take off, but it doesn't appear like it has. To that end, Kidpen. Hmmm... Rathmaskal. Their behavior has been odd, and there's always the possibility they're just straight up lying about their role, which is extremely difficult to confirm.
  22. Young Bard
    Hmmm... I was roleblocked last night. Since most people seem to think I'm village, I would not be surprised if it was the Vashikaran that roleblocked me. Also, just so we're clear, why are we not assuming that Rath was simply redirected on the Crimsn Chanarach scan? That seems like the most obvious solution, but I may have missed something. (Well, there is the fact that a village redirection might have claimed by now, of course. But they might just be exercising restraint because claiming wouldn't reveal a Spambot or anything of that sort.) Thirdly, I'd expect that the Babaji probably converted last night due to being in dire straits, so we can not rely on clearing anyone based on their role anymore. I want to make a note on who would be a likely target, but that gets into IKYK territory really fast. If it were me, I'd want to play it safe given how disastrous the first two rounds were for them, and pick someone with a claimed useful role who seemed to be generally trusted, but isn't really in the spotlight. I'll vote for Kidpen, for reasons I've talked about last cycle, and also because he's one of only a few people the remaining Eliminators could be, given how many people are claimed now. Plus, I want a tiebreak to test Renalvgade's role.
  23. Young Bard
    Oh dear. This could get ever so slightly confusing.
  24. Young Bard
    Alright. I can't help but feel all these role claims are a bad idea (even if you don't think you have a powerful role, it narrows down the pool for those who do, like the vigilante.) Anyway, I may as well do a list like Ada and Fura, so here goes: I was much more suspicious of Maill, but CadCom's argument makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if they're true Neutral instead of Neutral Village, but even so, that's not a problem for us. Alv's claim seems trustworthy to me, and is in line with the kind of trollish behaviour I'd expect from Joe. Plus, it's fairly easily verifiable, and I don't think a Spambot would make a claim that can so easily be disproven. Ada (who's template I scrimped off of, since most of our reads seem to be quite similar this game) had Xino marked as suspicious - I don't remember seeing something that made me lean either way, but if there's some evidence I'm missing, please let me know. Well, those are my reads. Hopefully I didn't just catch the Vigilante for the Spambots by undoing Ada's spoofing (the only other games I've seen with this much roleclaiming going around are the Shard games - this, strangely, feels almost like a spiritual successor to me, even though they're completely different narratively). Meta waited for Wilson, one of their oldest companions, to come back online. It wasn't like her to go inactive like this - she should have posted by now. Idly, Meta flicked over to Wilson's profile, to see what was going on. "This account was banned on 26th March, 2019." What? Meta didn't have the powers to undo this - his mod powers had been stripped since he'd gone inactive for so long - why would anyone ban Wilson? She clearly wasn't a spambot, as anyone with half an eye could see. It must have been a Spammer who managed to do it, trying to stop Wilson from getting too close to the truth. Meta sent off a PM to the mods, but he wasn't optimistic about them replying any time soon - they were all too busy reading Rhythms of War, lucky people. In the meantime, Meta would just have to figure out the rest of the Spambots himself. He smiled. The Spambots didn't know what they'd unleashed.
  25. Young Bard
    Do you have a limited or unlimited number of convert actions? And is it a direct help (it is mechanically required to convert a certain number of players, or certain specific roles, in order to win), or an indirect help (something where the additional members with this goal makes the wincon easier, but isn't specifically mandatory.) Does your wincon end the game upon completion?
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