little wilson

Do we want to meet next week, to fit a February meeting in?

I cannot see where the suspicion on stink is coming from. He's literally acting exactly as he has in every other game.... games where he's been village. Oh, he defended Dalinar, sure, but his tone in every post while "defending" Dalinar was clear irritation with the entire situation as opposed to scrambling to protect a teammate from getting lynched. And he has higher knowledge? Have you missed the past bunch of games when Stink says, in seemingly utter certainty, that another player is evil? That's just what Stink does when he's either trying to see who follows along (so baiting) or he's just truly very suspicious of that person. And it's not like that's something new to this game. It's just Stink. Mage. This is in part due to my prior suspicions of you and also due to buddying up with Stink. Your willingness to die is about the only thing that I see that speaks in your favor, but at the same time, it could be an IKYK. People will be less likely to kill you because you're saying that you're so willing to die and because a spiked wouldn't be so willing to die so you must be village... Unless you're a spiked who knows how the village will react to seeing how willing you are to die, and therefore says that to make it less likely that you will die. I have no idea what the vote count is right now and I won't be on again until after rollover so I apologize if this ties something up. Well, not really, since I'm fairly convinced that stink is village and I'd rather he not die. Also, I'm getting ready to move this weekend, so will be less active. I should be able to maintain a post a cycle, but we'll see. Oh, and sorry for any typos in this post. Posting via phone and haven't really proofread it. >>

I didn't refute it because there's no point in refuting it. It's not true, simple as that. And shifting the blame to others is now a villager thing to do? Fascinating. Because I'm fairly certain that if I had gone and blamed others, you'd be commenting on that instead. You're wrong though. If I were actually analyzing and being really active, sure, you, Joe and Orlok would be some of the only ones who wouldn't have attacked me. But there are plenty of teams who don't worry about the people who are less active or inactive. If you're not analyzing or posting much and hardly keeping track of the game, you're not much of a threat, and there's no reason to kill people who aren't threats. So you might want to widen that group of people who could be evil, because there are plenty of others who would fall into the category of not worrying about threats. I don't feel like I over-reacted, and honestly I'm surprised that you think I did. You and I have had this conversation many times. You know exactly how I feel about my rep and how I'm likely to react to certain comments, regardless of who makes them. I removed myself from the metanarrative and refuse to respond to certain titles because of a comment about my DnD classification being Lawful Evil and no one disputing that (side note for everyone: I'm very Lawful Good). That was an over-reaction, though it's definitely not one I regret. This has been building for a long time, and you know it because we've talked about it. I stopped analyzing and being as active in the games because of it, but that lower activity doesn't matter if my own friends continue to contribute to my rep. It might be that I just need to stop playing altogether. Is that the case? I'm genuinely asking. You know my thoughts better than almost anyone, and even you're contributing to it to a degree. So be honest: do you think it'll ever end, no matter what I do? If not, this is my last SE game. It's an added unnecessary stress and if nothing I do while playing will remove or reduce it, then I will simply stop playing. That's how completely serious I am about this. I'm done with the overblown rep. I'm done with people saying that it's indisputable that I'm so dangerous that I must be killed if I'm village. I dispute that, and if no one else will, then I'm done with SE.

Oh, Joe and I discussed this very briefly while PMs were up and we're both convinced that the Spiked protected me. I don't know why they did. Joe posited the idea that they didn't want anyone to die N1, and I could potentially see that, given a team composed of a number of Mistborn (and some other roles). I wonder if maybe they wanted to play me by having their Lurcher claim to me at some point in the early game, but then PMs went down and they couldn't. But I don't really care about why they attacked me and protected me, because we can run around in circles all day about that. You wanna know why I haven't been attacked since? Maybe it's because I haven't been terribly active. Maybe it's because I defended Dalinar and Nyali. Maybe it's because Arinian never scanned me so I'm not confirmed. Maybe it's because I'm not a threat to them because my suspicions are wrong. You know what pisses me off more than anything, Orlok? When people claim over and over that I'm "indisputably dangerous" to the opposition. I am human and I can and do make mistakes just like any other player. When you label me with that kind of reputation, it makes me seem more important or more right than 99% of the other players and that's not the case. Sure, I can be good. So can a lot of players. My best comes when I'm fully invested in a game, taking notes and analyzing, but guess what? I DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. I WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. Do you know what it's like to die 15 games in a row, Orlok? Do you know what it's like to hear people say things like you did, and know that that's exactly the reason why you have no hope of surviving a game in the near or even distant future? Do you remember how pissed off you were after you died so many times by cycle 2? Take your rage then and multiply it by about 100 and you might come close to how I feel right now. So knock it off with those comments that put me in an entire other sphere. I am human. I am not perfect. I am not always right. Stop acting like I am. Stop perpetuating my overblown rep, or you can bet that I will recreate a kill list and you will be the only name on it. Ever.

Joe, it sounds like there might be a slight mayorial issue. Personally, I'm not surprised you're still alive right now. In another cycle or two, I will be, but right now? Not really. I was surprised when Bugsy was killed rather than you or Drought last cycle. You might be right about being played (you probably are, if my own games of being in your position are anything to go off of) and Hero might be Spiked (I'm still torn about that, but I trust him more now than I did before PMs were up temporarily), but I don't think that this situation warranted outing Hero's role, especially since it sounds like he did what you asked him to. My guess is that the Spiked panicked when Drought was more active during the night, since it seemed like he was thinking about using his role. So they killed him before he could really start killing them. Not what I would've done, since Drought didn't even kill El when Joe told him to, so it was unlikely he'd kill on his own discretion, but, yeah. I'd guess tonight will be either Hero or Joe (or both), and since we don't have a Lurcher left, it's all but guaranteed to succeed. One other thing: I don't think it's a team of Mistborn anymore, unless they're somehow not drawing Tin or drawing Tin at the same time. I'd guess that there are only one or two Mistborn alive. Could be a Mistborn/Roleless team, but I think they probably have a Misting or two on the team as well. Smoker and Lurcher at the very least.

I used to give blood as frequently as I could, since I don't have an aversion to needles and I'm a universal donor. Felt it was my obligation. And then I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease and while the Red Cross doesn't say that people with autoimmune diseases can't or shouldn't give, I feel super sketched out giving someone the highly inflated antibodies in my blood. Now, whenever the Red Cross calls or emails me, I get irritated because I've told them multiple times that I can't give and to take me off their list, but they just don't listen. I want to give. I can't give, and reminding me of that won't endear me to them. Anyway. Onto actual bad day stuff. I've been doing some data analysis at work. It's been really fun for me and also useful for the manager I've been working with. On Monday, she suggested I apply for a product manager position that's been open for a couple months in one of the other offices. She'd been thinking about recommending one of her friends for it, but decided I would be better. Told me to tailor my resume for it, send it to this one person and CC her and the exec of my office to the email (I've been helping the exec with the data analysis too). Usually, when I'm applying for jobs, it's really easy for me to look at a job description and the required skills and talk myself out of applying, because they're looking for a specific candidate and I don't fit the requirements, so there's no point in applying. But with this one, I had all the required skills in varying degrees, and based on what I know about it, I'm positive that I could do it, and that it would be a good learning and growth experience for me. So I applied. And I figured with references like a department manager and an executive of the company, I'd have a decent shot. They got back with me today, saying that they're looking for someone who has previous product management experience (something the job description only listed as a plus), who's worked with software engineers, and I can't help but think that maybe that's why the position has been open for so long. They didn't even have me go in for an interview. I've been with the company for almost 4 years, I had quality references and proof that I'm the kind of candidate the description said they were looking for (a blend of business and tech savvy, where I've been the manager of a small business for over a year and I've doing the data analysis lately, with results) and the listed required skills--strong communication skills, pattern recognition, interpersonal skills, project prioritization, open-mindedness, etc. But because I had no product management experience and I'd never worked with software engineers, I'm scrapped. Thing is, both of those seem like they would be easily trainable, but some of those required skilled (like strong communication and interpersonal skills) aren't easily trainable. Why would you prioritize the easily trainable qualities over the ones you can't teach or train an adult to have? For a person who wants someone to be able to prioritize different tasks, he's surprisingly bad at it himself. While I know that it's probably best this way, since clearly he doesn't know what he's doing, at the same time, I was kind of getting my hopes up a little. It's in a different office (one that's more professional than my current office by a magnitude of at least 10), it's doing something that's in the direction I want my career to go (I'd like to do more business/tech stuff, since I'm tired of the constant writing), and it paid double what I currently make. While I don't need the money since I'm recently debt-free (yay!), I'd still like it and put it to use. Mostly, though, I thought I'd have a decent shot with my work experience and those references. I thought for sure I'd get in for an interview. And it's really disappointing to not even get that.

Seonid. Thanks for responding, Jon, to answer your question, some of my suspicion is based on Hero's theory about you being a Mistborn and having been attacked. Another bit is based is based on your activity chart missing all of Rae's information past cycle 1, which you collected and posted on the night she was killed. While I wouldn't think an eliminator would make a mistake like that, I've seen worse mistakes made by eliminators in that past, and I can see how that could've been overlooked accidentally, since you weren't pulling any information for any of the dead. Really, I can't justify that kind of an oversight from a villager, and even if it doesn't quite make sense from an eliminator perspective either, it makes more sense from that than village. But since I don't want to make the vote even closer, which voting on you would do, I'm going to vote for Headshot, since I suspect him as well.

Joe, Gamma's dead, fyi. I think for now, I'm going to vote for Seonid, because he's been less active, and I'd like to hear a little more from him. I'll be honest: this is mostly a poke vote, though I wouldn't mind lynching him either. For actual suspicions, I'm still suspicious of Mage and Headshot, and I've got a growing suspicion of Jondesu. I keep going back and forth on Assassin, but...yeah. I'll likely vote on one of those four (emphasis on Mage or Headshot) if Seonid comes along and I remove my vote from him. But that will be later in the cycle. I was suspicious of El at the start of the cycle, but that's died down now, thanks to the bandwagon.

HH wasn't scaned. The only confirmed villagers alive from Arinian's scans are Joe, Bugsy, and Wonko. And Drought, the PMs go down at the end of this turn, unless one of the Mistborn draws Tin.

Assassin, because you're voting for a confirmed villager. Arinian scanned Bugsy. Also, Jon retracted his vote on Hero and I find it curious, considering the severe lack of activity, that Headshot missed that... Dang it, Joe. You ninja'd my vote. I'm still keeping it. >>

...Silverblade is dead. He was Coinshot a couple nights ago.

There are plenty of other decent lynch candidates. The only person I can be certain is a villager is Joe. Virtually everyone else, I can see ways they could be evil, though some are far more of paranoid worries than anything else (like with Jon, his activity check on all the players during the night was missing a ton of information for Rae's activity, and I can't help but wonder if that's because he knew she was dying so forgot to bother to collect it...). My top lynch candidate is actually you, Mage. I mentioned this before you briefly went inactive, and you tried to twist my words into saying that I suspect you because you're just too good of a villager, but no. That's not what I said. I said that some of what you've said has been too convenient--it doesn't sit right. It feels made up--and your entire list of your players thoughts feels contrived. It feels like you saw what Doc did and decided to do the same thing so you'd seem helpful, but because you already know the alignments of everyone, you arbitrarily labelled people. Most of the players, you labeled as 'quiet' or 'lurking', but there are other players you said nothing about their activity levels, but they were also quiet and lurking. It's those inconsistencies that make it feel contrived. Take Stink, for instance. He'd been incredibly active, and then he very clearly started to get frustrated with what was going on and went for a little over 24 hours not saying anything in the thread, and your comment for him was that he'd been active, but now he's quiet like so many others. But for Bugsy, you said that you didn't have much to say for him. This was, what? Day 3? Bugsy had made 8 posts up to that point and 6 of those were during Cycle 1. He'd only made 2 posts in 4 turns, yet you made no comment about his 'quietness' or 'lurking', but he was worse than Stink in terms of that. You called Gamma a lurker when Gamma had made 7 RP and discussion-based posts, yet you said nothing about Seonid's quietness, even though Seonid had only posted 4 times and 3 of those were purely RP and the last was saying something that virtually anyone could've said. No comment about El's quietness, even though she'd only posted 6 times and 4 of those were in Cycle 1. You mentioned something about how Assassin is playing differently than the other times he's been evil, but he's only been evil once and that was his first game, where he lurked the entire game, hardly saying anything in the thread (I'm pretty sure he made less than 3 posts in the thread that entire game). This is his 10th game. People change and adapt the longer they play, so using a single evil game 10 games ago as your entire basis for leaning village on him seems a little sketch, not gonna lie. And then there's your comments about me being quiet, when I'd posted more than half the players in the game, and double the amount of some of the players you said nothing about their activity levels. So yes, your entire list felt contrived and made up. Hardly any basis in reality or fact at all. Also, congrats, because you got me to make the only notes I've made and will make this game. When your list struck me as off, I cross-referenced it and jotted down the activity levels of each of the players. Hence my saying it sounded contrived before. I didn't elaborate then because I didn't see the point. Also before you went inactive, you were all over the "Hero must be good" theory since he'd been pushing the Dalinar lynch so hard, and now you're saying Hero must be evil. Not that I disagree with you about Hero since I think he's suspicious, but what changed your mind? That's a pretty sudden shift, particularly for someone who was inactive. It obviously didn't have much to do with anything he said while you were gone, because if it did, you would know why people are suspicious of Manukos, since the Manukos lynch makes perfect sense if you were paying attention during the last couple of cycles when he was saying sketchy things like casting suspicion on the village Seeker and saying we should lynch him, and then changing his tune immediately after Nyali died, when Arinian hadn't even seeked her. Yeah, Manukos makes perfect sense to lynch, but you don't see it because you missed those cycles. So why are you suspicious of Hero now when you weren't before? If Hero is evil, why should we believe that your switch isn't for some more nefarious purpose, like bussing a teammate? And if Hero is good, why can't you be a Spiked trying to take advantage of the suspicion on Hero? Basically, why the inconsistency? Anyway. Moving on. I'd apologize for my low activity the last few cycles, but I don't have any intention of changing it, so an apology is pretty pointless. I lost my desire to be more active in the game after Arinian outed Wonko, using the reasoning that he was inactive and his role was unimportant, and I was the only one who said anything about it. Alienating inactives like that isn't a way to fix the problem, since it only creates a toxic environment where the only people we care about are those who maintain our own standards of activity, and why should an inactive come back if they're not going to be treated with respect regardless of their activity level? The fact that I'm the only one who said anything is supremely frustrating. At this point, I'm tired of being the only one speaking up about issues like this, and if no one else is willing to say anything, nothing I say will make a difference, so I might as well stay silent. That whole interaction killed my interest in the game and now I'm doing the bare minimum because I refuse to go completely inactive. One to two posts a cycle, with a vote. Don't expect anything more from me and I won't expect anything more from you. Also, don't count this paragraph as alignment-indicative since these would be my feelings and reactions regardless of my alignment. Don't count that last sentence as alignment-indicative either, or this sentence. Or....you get the point. Oh, and Mage.

@Arraenae That was an error in memory on my part. I knew you'd started looking suspicious around then and I mixed up my days and nights. The only explanation I can really offer is that I was running on two hours of sleep yesterday and anything under 4 tends to be problematic. Case in point. Had I realized that my reasoning there was off, I would've moved my vote (probably to Manukos, since I still think either he or Assassin is evil)1, but I went to bed early last night and forgot to check the thread first. :/

Unless we have another Seeker, the only people who would be able to support it are emotional allomancers, if they targeted one of those smoked. I'm more curious about the fact that Drake smoked someone like Rae when she was gathering suspicion and before it was known that she'd been seeked. Smoking blocks seeks. Why smoke someone whom other players find suspicious and therefore potentially prevent a Seeker from scanning? That choice makes no sense from a village perspective. That combined with the read I'm getting off your posts the last couple turns makes you jump to the top of my suspect list. So even despite the small bandwagon that formed, Drake.

Hm. Nothing has really happened since my last post, and my thoughts haven't changed, but Jon makes a good point about seeing what happens with the vote manipulation in the case of a tie, so I'll vote for Headshot in hopes that someone ties it up there. Should make it 3-4 Headshot/Assassin, respectively.

I'm going to be a little late. Papa John's didn't get the order ready when I said to have it ready by. Shall we do the second floor?

I'm not really sure that's something a Spiked would lie about, Arin. Because it's obvious that Ecth would've soothed someone's vote, so why claim a double soothe? Why claim anything at all? If Len were a Spiked Soother and didn't really soothe HH's vote, why try to claim it at all? Wouldn't it be better to say that he just didn't soothe that turn? But my question is actually that if Len were a Spiked Soother, why didn't he soothe a vote off Dalinar? One of their Mistborn (probably Nyali) rioted a vote from Dalinar to save him, so why not soothe one as well, just to be sure? Or, better yet, why not soothe a person who voted on someone entirely different (not the second-most voted person) to make it look like they rioted Doc? That's what I would do if I were rioting and had a Soother as well. Soothing from the second-most voted person makes no sense, because if anyone else had done vote manip, Dalinar could've died. The fact that Len is claiming to have soothed HH, and that there isn't any other soothing that happened that turn, like there should've been if the Spiked had a Soother (and they would've used their Soother that turn if they had one), tells me that Len probably isn't lying and therefore isn't Spiked. As for the village having multiple Soothers. Well, for the same reason they have what looks like multiple Thugs (Mad, Jon, and Rae at the very least). The Spiked have a slew of Mistborn. If their whole team is Mistborn and there's 5-6 of them on the team, they could easily have 2-3 of them draw zinc/brass on the same cycle, and then they'd be able to control the lynch. A GM would counter that possibility by giving the village a couple extra vote manips of their own. This also explains why there are multiple Thugs: because what if multiple Spiked draw Steel at the same time, or draw Steel multiple turns in a row? That's an additional kill, so you give the village a few extra lives to counter those extra kills. It's called balancing. This is why discussion of role distribution, once you have evidence of a few roles and powers, is a good thing to do. Useless at the beginning with Meta as GM, because he likes to screw with the meta, but Meta is also very good at balancing, so role distribution discussion is really good to do in the mid-game, when you have a better idea of what's going on. Like now. Anyway. My vote. I'm going to hold off for now, but my vote is probably going to go on either Assassin or HH. Leaning toward Assassin right now, because of his comments about Arinian during the night and his posts today have all seemed like backpedaling. Meanwhile, HH is advocating bandwagons, which are perfect for eliminators to blend in and get a few extra villagers lynched with little to no reasoning and therefore little for the village to gain by way of analysis post-lynch. After all, what are you really going to analyze when 90% of the votes have no basis other than "jumping on the bandwagon"? But I haven't decided yet where my vote is going, because I've had very little time to spend on the game the last couple days, what with a fairly important work project and figuring out my living situation next month. And I'm meeting with some other Sharders tonight so I probably won't be on again until just before rollover. But I will vote.

If you can, absolutely. EDIT: btw, I just got a 50% off deal for Papa John's so we'll get to dine on better-than-Little-Caesar's pizza tonight, for nearly the same price. Can someone bring cups? I'm not sure I'll be able to juggle the pizza boxes and the soda and the cups. Seems like a good way to make a mess while opening a highly pressurized bottle of carbonated beverage. Which is....less than desirable.

That's not at all what I said. I don't think you are Spiked. I didn't really think you were Spiked when you claimed Seeker, though the option wasn't really off the table, since weirder things have happened. My point is that those three went from being skeptical of you to all of sudden saying that you were now cleared with their basis (as I read it) being that you had seeked Nyali and knew she was evil and led the vote on her that got her lynched. But that's not what happened because you hadn't seeked her. I'm not about to say that all three are Spiked, but I do think one of them is, and I'm more inclined to think it's Assassin or Manu, trying to follow Joe's reasoning because they realize they can't cast suspicion on the village Seeker and get him lynched on the idea that he's actually a spiked Seeker. And wait. I was neutral about lynching Dalinar? Ha. If that's how you define neutrality, I'd be fascinated to see your definition of what it takes to have a true opinion. I'll grant you the Nyali neutral-ness, though that was based on the fact that she wasn't playing at all like her past two games, in which she was evil. Now I see why that's the case: she was intentionally mixing up her play so it didn't look at all the same. But really? I was neutral about Dalinar. That amuses me far more than it should...

Um. You guys do realize that Arinian hadn't scanned Nyali, right? I don't think he's Spiked either, but using the lynching of an eliminator he didn't even scan as reasons for clearing him makes all three of you more suspicious to me. It feels more like you're trying to ingratiate yourself to him in hopes that he won't scan you.

Okay, Arin, I don't care what your alignment is at this point, but can you please stop revealing roles? Not only does it help the eliminators to know who's what, but it's also incredibly bad form to just reveal people's roles without their permission. What gives you the right to publicly declare that information? Just because you're a seeker? Note to self: never give Arinian any information-finding role in any game ever. He takes the fun out of the game for any player he learns information on.

Not to be too nitpicky, but just because you're a seeker and have scanned certain players doesn't mean the rest of us know that those players have been scanned. I'd be willing to bet that you scanned some of those players for reasons like you being slightly suspicious of them, so to get on other players' cases because we think they're suspicious when we don't have scanning roles doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. You can say they're "proven" all you want, but until you're dead and are proven a village-aligned seeker, the players you claim to have scanned aren't proven to us, because you could just as easily be lying. It wouldn't be the first time a Spiked claimed Seeker. Or that Team Evil was given a Cop. So forgive me for not taking your word as the gospel truth.

I won't be advocating a Rae lynch this cycle, personally. The only reason I even voted for Rae last cycle was because the vote was so close and I was slightly more suspicious of Rae and the circumstances of that role claim than I was of Nyali. For now I am inclined to focus on others. If either Nyali or Rae are spiked, so long as they stay active, we should be able to figure it out. I agree with Rae about Mad. She's one of my stronger village reads. However, I wouldn't advise pushing the idea of "They wouldn't try a WGG after failing so many other times," because if they think we're going to clear anyone who gets attacked and survived, you can bet that they will try a WGG at some point. I don't think that's what this is, but, yeah. Let's not just assume based on prior attacks. So right now, my main suspect (other than Hero, which apparently no one agrees with me on...) is HH. I'm also suspicious of Mage, Silverblade, and Wonko. HH is predominantly gut, but I could find evidence if necessary, since I know he's had at least 3-4 posts that felt very, very off. I haven't been taking notes though, so I don't have anything more concrete than that. Mage has said a few too-convenient things and his thoughts on all the players feels contrived. Silverblade hit the list during the night, because, as someone already mentioned, it felt like he was prying for misting roleclaims, which is really something we don't want made public. Wonko is because he's been flying under the radar and could've been the Rioter D1. Also, since Assassin and Hero have posted since I started writing this and both voted on Rae, can I just request that we not form a bandwagon quite yet? Yes, she could be Spiked, and yes, she survived the lynch yesterday, but that doesn't mean the lynch was wasted. We know she was telling the truth, for one. Which is nice to know for me, because I honestly thought that was lie. And make no mistake: this situation is not like Dalinar. By the time Dalinar survived a lynch, he'd had a Rioter interfere with a different lynch, saving him, and he'd survived an attack from lurcher interference. Rae has made a couple vaguely suspicious comments (that really could come from an unfortunate villager) and survived due to her own ability and no one else. Even the vote manipulation last cycle didn't really help her. Additionally, there was plenty of discussion during the day and the lynch vote was incredibly close. Which wasn't really the case at all on D2, when Dalinar survived. That was a wasted lynch, because no one talked about hardly anyone else all day long. I wouldn't call the lynch last cycle wasted, even if no one died. Let's not jump on a bandwagon this early, because that will waste the day.

I don't play QFs because they're too time-consuming for me, and I definitely don't play two games at one time, so no. I won't be playing this. Sorry.

@Elenion I'd put the odds of that D1 soothe being your brother at about 99.99%. @Conquestor There's a difference between all Spiked being Mistborn and all Mistborn being Spiked. The first means that the village could have Mistborn of our own. The second means that we don't. I'm...not sure the evidence supports all the Mistborn being Spiked. It's possible all the Spiked could be Mistborn, however. But if all the Mistborn were Spiked, the village would need to have a lot of Mistings, and while that's possible, Kipper was a Regular and I have reason to believe he's not the only one. I'm not even going to begin to guess how many Regulars there are, but even just 3-4 puts the village at a power disadvantage if all the Mistborn are Spiked. Plus, what kind of Mistings does the village have then? We know there are no Tineyes. I don't see much evidence of there being a slew of vote manipulation (my gut is saying that the vote manipulation we've seen is the work of many Mistborn drawing zinc/brass, and I'd wager that not all of those Mistborn are Spiked). I don't see much evidence for seekers/smokers, though admittedly, there hasn't been much time for that, and it's hard to know for sure about either of those with PMs being down. So Thugs/Lurchers. Which...could actually be a decent counter to a full team of Mistborn, possibly. My gut still says that some of the Mistborn are not Spiked. That could just stem from a fear of facing a full team of Mistborn, but even still. I think at the very least, the "Coinshot" who attacked Dalinar was village and I don't think they were a Coinshot. I think they were a Mistborn who drew Steel that night. After all, if they were a Coinshot, what would it have hurt to attack Dalinar again the next night? Sure, he probably would've been protected (unless that was a Mistborn who drew iron the previous night), but given that they didn't attack anyone instead, would it really have mattered? No. I think they didn't attack Dalinar again because they couldn't, because they weren't actually a Coinshot. Which means, if that's right, that the village has at least one Mistborn of our own.