Michael Portz

I can't bear it anymore. This is way too cruel ... lingering on the page ... constantly reloading ... constantly reading ... re-reading long read contributions ... dismissing silly theories lolling ... *SIGH*

Thunderclasts are constantly described as ripping themselves from the stone surface of Roshar. They do not evolve from something, aka the listeners.

I am about to upvote this ... ... maybe not, on second thoughts ...

Defintively! Inhaling it is only one of the forms.

I second that! Besides Kal, Syl and Rock its the only other triangle of people, where the two talking are on friendly terms and the third has a tendency to worship one of the first two. And Yalb has in my view a much greater potential to be a serious worshipper (aka one that has to be warned about) than Rock, who mostly seems to be able to keep an ironic distance.

I didn't get one today, either :-(

Got my glimpse ... it leaves me ... confused ...

Trying to lead ppl back to my main point: How are Shallan and the NPAM related? Some of the comments so far don't agree, that one of the monsters is Shallan (which of course is perfectly ok). Let me ask specifically those, who tend to agree with me, that Shallan sees herself as one of the monsters: Do you have any other suggestions, on what the claimed SAMENESS might be based? Suggestions so far are a fabrial or a spren with mirroring abilities or a sudden burst of light weaving by Shallan mirroring the NPAM Thanks loads Michael

Of course I can't outright reject your interpretation, and even if I turn out to be right you raise a valid question: Why is there no mentioning of this horrid scene in WoK, not even vague hinting like on her fathers death. The following list might contain explanations: Her (loving) father successfully helped her to overcome her terror in the years to come. Her memories of her presumed killing of her father were far stronger, because it was more recent and she took an active role. And if even her foremost scaring memory is only fleetingly mentioned, there might just not have been enough space to describe the second most scaring memory.

You are absolutely right for an embrace between adults! But between a grown man and a child of 11 I can hardly imagine the child holding the father.

I like this :-) I had thought of a spren with mimicking abilities, but didn't want to overload my posting. Your fabrial idea is better!

I really don't think, the FIRST of the two quotes can possibly refer to anything else than herself i.e. she rejects the being held by her father. But "holding" is commonly a loving gesture; why would anybody reject it? "this affection" can only be the love, her father shows by holding her. Why does she think, it is not right? Right, she thinks so, because "held in love" must in my opinion refer to her father holding her. That leaves only the ONE POSSIBLE explanation, that she thinks, that she is the monster, or that she is "the same as" or "like" a monster, or the NPAM. And if you followed my train of thought up to here, then: How can there be a sameness between a shard blade in the role of the NPAM and child Shallan? Disclaimer: Of course you can deviate anywhere from this reasoning; I will gladly receive any hints, why that might be so ;-)

I'm of course referring to "Red Carpet, once White", Shallans WoR Interlude. Several contributors already pointed out at least one of the usages of the word "monster" in the interlude. But nobody so far tried to make a connection, if I didn't miss something somewhere (iff so: Sorry!). The citations in question are, as most of you know and I really doubt, that an author like Brandon would use the same word for different things in such a confined space. So I think, he used it twice on purpose. Obviously ... well, at least I hope so ... there is no other child put in the safe box. So why does child Shallan think of both things as "monster". Obviously she views both as identical in a way yet to be revealed. How about the following first attempt of an explanation: The now-put-away monster (NPAM) scared Shallan. Intuitively in self defense she used her light weaving abilities to mimic the NPAM. Noticing the sudden SAMENESS, Shallan now thought herself as of the same kind as the NPAM. Mind you, this is no explanation for the dead bodies or her crying father, what the NPAM monster is and what it and Shallan contributed to the scene. But thats not important for the explanation of the double usage of "monster". What do you think?

At Tor they learned a lot from these drug dealer flicks ...

Hehe, you beat me ...

Well .. same procedure as last week: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/02/announcing-glimpses-of-radiance-daily-previews-of-words-of-radiance Link will be probably available in 32 minutes ... *TWIDDLE* ... lets speculate: What can "Glimpses of Radiance Daily Preview" mean??

Of course being a respected member of the Shin society would NOT mean him being a warrior, but a farmer instead :-) [TYPO]

@Rooster, @Mois: Hehehe ... gave the answer in an edit above @Aleksiel: Masochism? Sadism? You choose ... ;-P

Link is there (http://www.tor.com/stories/2014/01/excerpt-brandon-sanderson-words-of-radiance-chapter-ten-twelve-fourteen-and-interlude-1), article not yet as of now ... 3rd EDIT: And now it IS on ... so ignore the rest of this post and the first roundabout 20 posts ;-) At least we know what to expect ... *TWIDDLE* EDIT: In case anybody is wondering: The "Next" link in the previous excerpt turned active all of a sudden ;-) 2nd EDIT: A word of warning: Tor MIGHT still change the link name ... and if only because they think they are under attack, because they get so many hits on an not-yet-existent page ....

Upvote, I'm really sure you are right.

Well ... ok .. but if in 3-4 years he starts telling us "Oh, you still don't know? I thought it was obvious by now." we reconsider, ok?

Meta-Theory: 'Who wrote "Sixty-two days, Death follows."?' will be Brandons own personal 'Who killed Asmodean?' ;-) Michael

Aaaahhh...too late...you all already outdid me...I'lll win anyway :-P

How could anybody not be interested in the arc? And of course so am I!