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Live in a house with a secret passage. Leave the USA, even for a little while. Finish assembling my Fusor, at least to working plasma containment. Find a new DnD group.
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It's also worth mentioning that you can Store the sort of False-wakefulness you get from chemical stimulants like Caffeine, but Tapping it will feel different in the same ways that it's not real sleep. So you get out what you put in, in terms of wakefulness and mental state. Im curious if that'll get adapted into anything more nuanced as a form of non-chemical mental health care (the way I assume Electrum will). Edit: I should highlight that this WOB says explicitly "That's my answer right now, but that's one pretty mutable, as we go forward." so it's very much subject to change once we actually get back to Scadrial.
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Hello! What's your favorite game and game type (Sports/Baseball, Table-top RPGS/3e DnD, Videogames/Zelda OoT, etc)
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Welcome! Which non-cosmere works did you read? Have you discovered the buried Lore depths of the Arcanum WOB Collection yet?
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Also FYI they are calling the convention Dragonsteel Nexus moving forward, I think just to distinguish it from the rest of the Dragonsteel organization and events and whatnot.
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I think at that point they'd just be an empowered Leader/Ruler/Figurehead and not inspire the sort of devotion or be quite as elevated as Godhood in the eyes of the population. At best the position and/or Breath Horde itself might get that sort of reverence, but not so much the vessel that is voted into it; not a God but maybe closer to a Pope figure or even a person that everyone turned into a (temporary) prophet/oracle.
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It's also worth noting that a much more recent addition to the Cosmere lore is the idea of a Luhel Bond, a specific class of spiritual Bond that trades Physical Matter (usually but not necessarily Water) for Power. It was previously seen in White Sand and in more recent novels is heavily associated with Aethers. All that to say Preservation's magic is very likely just following older cosmere/realmic patterns and utilizing their functions, so the fact that metal is Lost in the process doesnt really have to be specifically a Preservation Thing any more than the significance of Metal is.
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I dont think the basin is going to crack how to make madallions
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Hmmm, Maybe current gen Airships that use medallion and harmonium tech for Lift and general cruising but with more traditional jet engines as boosters for sprinting and/or dogfights? -
I dont think the basin is going to crack how to make madallions
Quantus replied to ruler of the mists's topic in Mistborn
While I do agreed that metallic arts wont entirely displace RL science with combustion engines (any more than they displaced electrical tech and radio) I disagree with this bold part on the science of it. Modern aeronautics looses a huge portion of it's energy to carrying the weight of (usually) liquid Fuel, and that's the densest material energy storage we have. Even if we assume that they dont develop with some worldhopping influences and/or foreign magics, the potential energy density of current Metalminds is entirely unrivaled in real science (short of maybe nuclear or similar extremes). -
Welcome to the Shard! Nah, you wont spoil anything, at most you'll miss a few cameo-level references that you wont recognize as being off-world elements. But that's pretty much the case with all cosmere novels, there's always some level of hidden worldhopper presence, even if it's just Hoid or some background character using the wrong idioms. If you've read that much of the cosmere and are about to start Stormlight, Ill go ahead and tell you that the main crossover "Read X Before Y" in Cosmere reading lists is to have read Warbreaker before Stormlight (or at least before books 2-3ish where certain things becomes more relevant). Also Warbreaker is awesome, so I highly recommend it in it's own right.
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If you are asking whether you could Command a Breath to recharge/overcharge a feruchemical Metalmind with Stores in it, Probably, though there might be Heightening level requirements to affect metals and to overcome existing Investiture. Breaths are known to adapt Identity easily, and can fuel other magics like Surges (they're just super-expensive), and they can do spiritual things with the right Commands, so giving the Investiture as an Endowment to the metalmind should be within reach. If you mean you could gain the augmented benefits of Heighenings (like Age or Senses or a Returned's physical capabilities) and then store them in Feruchemically in metalminds, absolutely.
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If exoskeletons are not a barrier (or at least one that's surmountable) then theoretically they should be able to mimic any of the multi-limbed crustacean species on roshar up to whatever their normal size limits might be, at least until some form of spren bond become required (for sheer weight, etc).
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Those are the two best of the known types, Id say. Crimson is innately sharp from what we've seen of Lumar spores, so the aetherbound version can likely make likes of stabby implements (though it might be more piercing than slashing damage). Rosite is probably more practical for traditional plate armor, though Verdant can probably do something more flexible and equally Invested. I dont know how adaptable Midnight Essence might be for making animal Parts, but if it can do that it might be leveraged for chiton armor and tooth/claw/stinger weapons. There's a WOB that strongly implies each Soulcasting Essence will be represented in the Aethers, so there's likely to be a Metal Aether and a Rock/Stone Aether in the mix, I'd keep my eye out for those too.
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I would assume it's Fake Atium and marketing. It could just be a supremely indulgent use of leftover Atium beads, but I wouldnt think that sort of ultra-rich black market would end up in the broadsheets.
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To absorb it at any sort of speed they'd need to thin the skin down to a more absorbent internal-like membrane flesh, but otherwise it should work. They could also wildly increase their internal storage by expanding their stomach to crazy proportions (or possibly even creating a new bladder-sack for water storage). Have you ever heard the saying "they drink like they have a hollow leg"?
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All Im saying is that I think that Peservation's magic did exactly what Autonomy's did, and copied pre-existing mechanism, specifically the Luhel Bond of the aetherbound Where the aetherbound feed Water over a Luhel Bond to the Prime Aether in exchange for the Investiture to drive their powers, Allomancers feed metal over a similar but distinct type of Luhel Bond to gain their allomancy. They have Preservation embedded directly in their sDNA so they dont require the physical Bud as a conduit. And Snapping is presumably involved in the Luhel Bond formation but got modified by Harmony so that's probably a whole other rabbit hole. These are both true in most cases, but the fact that purified Dor can mimic any metal simply by being burned by a Misting shows that the metal itself is not critical to the effect/shaping process. Im assuming it's sort of like using an Atium Spike for hemalurgy instead of a more specific metal, where it can steal anything but Intent has to supplement for the attribute affinity that the metal would normally provide. But in both of those cases it's being powered by the Physically manifested Investiture and not a Connection to Preservation the way normal mistings are. That's true for the fringe case that is Sand Mastery, but the Aetherbound very much seem to be getting Investiture through the Luhel Bond to fuel their manifestations (using intend and the Bud as their focus). And per the narration in Tress the Luhel Bond normally trades water for the effect (I always assumed via a feruchemy-esk Investiture transformation), but those Spores dont involve any bond at all (with the noted exception of the Midnight Essence that forms a "temporary bond" that is "closer to how Aethers are supposed to work" (emphasis theirs).
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That's true but not incompatible with it being a Shardic Luhel Bond, unless Im missing something? The metal does a lot of the Investiture tuning but the allomancer's sDNA is doing some of it too (since purified Dor can fuel the effects for a misting with no tuning metals required, for example).
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Very minor nit-pick: Per the definition presented in Tress, Luhel Bonds trade power for Physical Matter, of which Water is one example. I only mention it because under that definition Allomancy itself sure appears to be a Power-for-Metal Luhel Bond to Preservation.
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Nothing scummy about it, everyone has their own threshold for spoilers vs background, and nobody has to ever justify how they go about enjoying a story. So the short rundown on Aethers as we know it: There are known to exist 12 Prime Aethers, each of a different flavor, that do the Aetherboud thing, like we saw in TLM. It operates using a Luhel Bond, which is defined by the person giving up physical matter, typically water, in exchange for the ability to manifest and/or manipulate the bonded aether. With Aetherbound this is a symbiotic relationship with control, but on the planet Lumar (where Tress takes place) it's more uncontrolled and parasitic and triggers on contact between Aether spores and any water, which allows for a lot of danger but also some more practical mechanical uses. Lumar is entirely covered by 12 color-coded oceans of Aetherspores that pour down from corresponding Moons in geosynchronous orbit. Per WOB there's apparently a specific but unrevealed reason why aethers are have gone so wild on Lumar compared to the TLM style aetherbinding scheme. Side note is that per WOB at least some of the aethers will reflect the Essences seen in Soulcasting on Roshar (specifically in that the Red spiky one is supposed to be a sort of coral or carapace to take the place of a more gross and/or squishy Flesh Aether) As far as White Sand, we dont actually know how it connects realmically to the Prime aethers (and we have WOB's that implicate Shards instead behind the White Sand world of "Taldain"). But there's mention of a mythical 13th Aether of Bone that legends cannot decide if it's White or Black, which sure sounds like the White Sands. White Sand is white while Invested and turns black as you drain the power, only to be recharged by that world's Sun. It also requires and consumes Hydration to use the powers that involved a relatively physical Sand-Bending sort of elemental control to create and manipulate tentacles or whirlwinds of sand, mostly. That's where the Water-For-Power Luhel Bond mechanics are explored the most, even if doesnt look anything like the Prime Aether relationship described in TLM. EDIT: One More Thing: One of the flavors of Aether is Midnight Essence. WOB confirms that this is not literally the same Midnight Essence that was seen on Roshar, rather it's a case of similar convergent effects from different realmic sources. Also, just for another Aether appearance:
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Ok, cool. If you like I can distill the basic framework setting bits from anything plot related to give you the highlights mostly spoiler free, otherwise I just recommend getting to those whenever you ca, both are tons of fun. White Sand prose version is available free for those signed up for the newsletter, and while it's not technically the canon version that doesnt seem to bother you if you've read AoN. Its pretty close, and the the differences to the canon version are well documented on the Coppermind.
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WOB says the White Sand has invested Microbes growing on it that provides the functions, so it's not the sand minerals itself. So it can be cultivated if a sample is imported, and it probably doesnt need to be sand shaped specifically, but it's a living layer on the sand substrate and not the mineral itself.
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Have you read Tress and/or White Sands? The magical nuance is a bit different in each case but both seem to explore core aspects of the system as it stands in canon.
